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babylonsister

(171,079 posts)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:29 PM Nov 2012

Dem Senator Introduces Bill To Lift Social Security’s Tax Cap, Extend Its Solvency For Decades

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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/11/16/1208701/democratic-senator-introduces-bill-to-lift-social-securitys-tax-cap-extend-its-solvency-for-decades/

Democratic Senator Introduces Bill To Lift Social Security’s Tax Cap, Extend Its Solvency For Decades

By Jeff Spross on Nov 16, 2012 at 5:15 pm


Democratic Senator Mark Begich of AlaskaSocial Security, the government entitlement that provides support to seniors in retirement, the disabled, and other Americans, has long been in the cross-hairs of budget reformers. The program’s trust fund currently won’t be spent out until 2033, and after that it would still pay 75 percent of scheduled benefits.

Most of the proposed solutions to the shortfall involve cutting back benefits and raising the minimum retirement age. Both are deeply problematic; at its current level of benefits Social Security kept over 20 million people out of poverty in 2011, many Americans in demanding manual labor jobs already take early retirement and thus reduced benefits as it is, and lower-income Americans have not particularly benefited from the average rise in lifespans .

This week, however, Sen. Mark Begich (D-AK) put forward a reform package that goes in the opposite direction, while still financially securing the program’s trust fund for roughly the next seven decades. The Washington Post’s Dylan Matthews laid out the details:

The Begich bill would lift the current payroll tax cap, which exempts wages in excess of a certain amount ($110,100 this year) from the tax. In turn, it would give high earners, who would pay more, additional benefits upon retirement, just as benefits increase as wages do for workers below the cap. […]

It also increases benefits across-the-board. While Bowles-Simpson and Domenici-Rivlin adopt a stingier “chained CPI” measure for inflation, Begich adopts “CPI-E,” or a measure that specifically captures inflation in goods that seniors buy.

Due to deteriorated health and other considerations, goods seniors buy tend to be more expensive than those younger people purchase. Begich’s CPI-E change would mean, effectively, a 4.5 percent benefit increase for the program’s beneficiaries, including not just seniors but their designated survivors and disabled Americans as well.


The Congressional Research Service ran the numbers back in 2010 and concluded that eliminating the payroll tax cap — while also paying out the new benefits to wealthier Americans in accordance with their new taxes — would eliminate 95 percent of the trust fund’s shortfall over the next 75 years.

Begich may not hit that goal exactly, depending on how the legislation is written. In particular, his change to CPI-E also lifts the overall benefit level, on top of the changes in CRS’ scenario. But his reform would probably come very close.
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Dem Senator Introduces Bill To Lift Social Security’s Tax Cap, Extend Its Solvency For Decades (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2012 OP
That is the solution still_one Nov 2012 #1
It is the progressive solution Obama and Sanders support. freshwest Nov 2012 #15
It's about time. nt redwitch Nov 2012 #2
Absolutely...lift the cap! haikugal Nov 2012 #3
Best of all, EVERYONE could pay a LOWER rate! rocktivity Nov 2012 #4
I'm glad to read this. Lugnut Nov 2012 #5
Way to go, Mark! Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #6
Not sensible at all. MannyGoldstein Nov 2012 #7
Well on the bright side the vomit will taste better hootinholler Nov 2012 #11
It's so friggin' obvious and simple MH1 Nov 2012 #8
Their votes on this will shine a spotlight on their TRUE intentions and finally put an end to forestpath Nov 2012 #9
if Repubs were smart.... kentuck Nov 2012 #10
If history is any indication they very well may. This sticks with the established script of Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #14
It is the solution, but we still are going to be fighting for it. Cleita Nov 2012 #12
Simplier way is to just lift the cap as needed to keep it solvent. Auntie Bush Nov 2012 #13
Anyone who loves this country can see how this will be good, a solid permanent good, for the USA. nt patrice Nov 2012 #16
70 more years and no cutting of benefits Politicub Nov 2012 #17
Allow SS and Medicare Taxes 1ProudAtheist Nov 2012 #18
This. CrispyQ Nov 2012 #25
Republicans will never go for this.... JeffHead Nov 2012 #19
This is a progressive solution. Let's trash the corporatist Third Way approach of screwing workers Zorra Nov 2012 #20
The plutocracy despises this with every fiber of their being. mick063 Nov 2012 #21
Here's Oregon Representative Pete Difazio speaking about removing the payroll tax cap... DreamGypsy Nov 2012 #22
Bingo! Brainstormy Nov 2012 #23
Change is in the air.... ReRe Nov 2012 #24
This is very good news and if they cannot get it through this session I hope they continue to push jwirr Nov 2012 #26
Some other "Dems" would rather raise the eligibility age Doctor_J Nov 2012 #27

Lugnut

(9,791 posts)
5. I'm glad to read this.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:49 PM
Nov 2012

Especially this sentence.

"It also increases benefits across-the-board. While Bowles-Simpson and Domenici-Rivlin adopt a stingier “chained CPI” measure for inflation, Begich adopts “CPI-E,” or a measure that specifically captures inflation in goods that seniors buy."

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
6. Way to go, Mark!
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:02 PM
Nov 2012

So much of the time he acts like Lisa Murkowski's lapdog. It's nice to see him propose something on his own that makes so much sense.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
7. Not sensible at all.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:03 PM
Nov 2012

doesn't he realize that Democrats can only bipartisan when cutting Social Security benefits, not raising them?

 

forestpath

(3,102 posts)
9. Their votes on this will shine a spotlight on their TRUE intentions and finally put an end to
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:28 PM
Nov 2012

all those fake-smile evasive answers I see from so many congresspeople on MSNBC (other than Bernie Sanders, that is - him I completely trust on SS).

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
14. If history is any indication they very well may. This sticks with the established script of
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:44 PM
Nov 2012

Democrats allowing republicans to take a good Democratic idea and twisting into a foul parody that the Democrats can then point to and say, "see, it was a bad idea all along".

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
12. It is the solution, but we still are going to be fighting for it.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:39 PM
Nov 2012

This Congress will not pass it. Maybe the next one will.

 

1ProudAtheist

(346 posts)
18. Allow SS and Medicare Taxes
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:05 AM
Nov 2012

on dividend income and capital gains. Those who have that type of income get to use it to qualify for benefits, yet do not pay any SS or Medicare taxes on it. That alone should secure SS for the next several hundred years.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
20. This is a progressive solution. Let's trash the corporatist Third Way approach of screwing workers
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:14 AM
Nov 2012

with the "Grand Bargain" "Grand Illusion" once and for all.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
21. The plutocracy despises this with every fiber of their being.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:14 AM
Nov 2012

There is no kingdom to rule without serfs.



Pass the damn thing now!!!!!!

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
24. Change is in the air....
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:37 AM
Nov 2012

K&R

....has anyone noticed? I'm usually a pessimist, but something is different up there since the election. And I like it. It just seems like something is thawing, unassociated with climate change. I think Sen Begich's bill might pass!

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
26. This is very good news and if they cannot get it through this session I hope they continue to push
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:46 PM
Nov 2012

it.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
27. Some other "Dems" would rather raise the eligibility age
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:56 PM
Nov 2012

Apparently Melissa Harris Perry is floating a trial balloon, likely from the WH, that we should instead make people work until age 67. I sure am glad the Dems are on my side.

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