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Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:37 PM Nov 2012

Sister Simone has been giving SE Cupp a lesson in poverty

and economics. SE has been doing her wide-eyed incredulous face but the sister is pointing out that society has made the trade off of low minimum wages for making food stamps available. SE kept asking, "but what about poverty." The reply came, "Raise the minimum wage" so people can afford shelter and food. The sister was very good in pointing out that those receiving food stamps are the WORKING poor. She also pointed out that there are people who are disabled and cannot work and that all people have the right to eat.

SE finally shut her yap. I guess she ran out of talking points. I'm going to try to find that clip and make it available. I don't usually watch that show but I'm glad I caught that section. I don't have much use for religious institutions either but I have respect for this lady.

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csziggy

(34,136 posts)
13. Right wing 'journalist'
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:54 PM
Nov 2012
In 2002, she was hired by The New York Times to write and edit for the Index Department. She is a contributor to Politico.com's The Arena as well as a frequent guest of CNN, Fox's Hannity, Fox & Friends, America Live with Megyn Kelly, Strategy Room and Red Eye w/Greg Gutfeld, and MSNBC's Now with Alex Wagner, Morning Joe and Martin Bashir.

Her writings have appeared at The Washington Post, New York Daily News, Foxnews.com, The American Spectator, Townhall, Newsmax, Human Events, Slate, Maxim, The Daily Caller, SI.com, and CNN.com.

In 2009, she was hired as a columnist at the Daily News.

In 2011, she was hired as a writer and commentator for Mercury Radio Arts,[9] the organization owned and operated by Glenn Beck. Shortly after being hired by Beck, she was given her own show, "S.E. Cupp" on the Insider Extreme broadcast found on Glennbeck.com.[10] That show has since moved to GBTV (now TheBlaze TV).

On June 25, 2012, Cupp began co-hosting The Cycle on MSNBC with political strategist Krystal Ball, pop-culture commentator Touré, and MSNBC's political writer Steve Kornacki.[11] On July 5, 2012, Cupp said on The Cycle that she "would never vote for an atheist president." When asked to explain, Cupp said she felt that a president must not represent only 10 to 15 percent of the American populace and that faith served as a "check" on presidential power.[12]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S._E._Cupp

PennsylvaniaMatt

(966 posts)
2. I hope everyone remembers Sister Simone at the Convention!
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:46 PM
Nov 2012

The one commentator had it right...."I can't believe that it took a nun to fire up the crowd at the Democratic Convention!"

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. Did you see the facial expressions
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:55 PM
Nov 2012

on the panel when the Sister smacked Cupp's talking points. Priceless!!!

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
5. The sister is right
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:24 PM
Nov 2012

My late uncle said something before he passed that has stuck with me. He said "all *welfare* is corporate welfare".

He went on the explain that the plutocratic class and their republican lackeys in congress like to make a lot of noise about getting rid of social programs, but when it comes down to the nut cuttin' they never will because it serves the big shot ownership class by subsidizing a portion of their payroll and it helps to keep the serfs from rising up and killing them.

And when you think about it, where do the funds from social programs wind up? Back in the hands of the rich. Why? because they spend it. If you're the owner of stores like Dollar General, Family Dollar, Dollar Tree etc. , you're probably far from poor and you're directly benefitting from "welfare" because that's where many of the poor shop, at least around here anyways.

But, I'm sure Sippy Cup hasn't been programmed with that information because it's her job to try to appeal to a bunch of bubbas that want to "kick 'em all off welfare". Not very likely. They may try to squeeze and "reform" it from time to time but I doubt they'll ever get rid of such programs. Companies like WalMart have been able to make a king's ransom because of their existence.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
6. +1. It also serves elites to steer the underclass into crime & drugs. Increased
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:30 PM
Nov 2012

support by the middle for lawn-order & for jailing/suppression/neglect of the underclass, as well as making political solidarity between the two groups more difficult.

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
7. exactly
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:36 PM
Nov 2012

and I think they are going to find out that killing off the middle class wasn't such a great idea.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
8. not a big deal for those folks. tearing down the middle class here, building up new ones overseas.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:47 PM
Nov 2012

they make money on both ends. because they have insider information and can place bets ahead of the curve.

there won't be consequences for them, only for the rest of us.

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
10. making middle class into poor
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:24 PM
Nov 2012

The unintended consequence of making the middle class into poor people is that they may eventually create a large, united voting block. For decades their stock and trade was keeping the middle class divided against the poor. That's what Reagan's whole "welfare queen" fallacy was about. The more middle class that falls through the cracks the less that old canard will work for them.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
11. the thing about the poor is they tend not to vote and are easily suckered into
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:50 PM
Nov 2012

anti-social behavior (because they have largely been disallowed from participation in 'real' society). which gives elites and middle cause to persecute & cow them.

whole economies have run with masses of dispossessed and only a handful of elites and their managerial servants. latin america, for a very long time, for example.

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
14. Great Depression
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:28 PM
Nov 2012

It didn't work out so well for them here after the power elites drove us into the Great Depression, we got FDR and the New Deal. What happens if the overplay their hand again remains to be seen IMO

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
15. There is a difference in who 'the poor' were in the depression and who they are today.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:37 PM
Nov 2012

a difference in what 'working class culture' was then & what it is now, and a difference in the international political situation (e.g. no ussr as 'competition')

i agree, we don't know what will happen. personally, i think a new fascism is more likely.

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
17. a lot of the poor in the depression
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:43 PM
Nov 2012

a lot of the poor in the depression were working class just a scant few years before, kinda like today, there's a growing class of "nouveau poor" due to outsourcing, downsizing etc etc. I'm hoping we can vote our way out of this over the next few cycles, I'd much prefer a peaceful solution to the alternative

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
16. that was a slap down of beauty
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:40 PM
Nov 2012

but of course the Sister wouldn't do that deliberately. She is so awesome that woman.

Little Sippy Cupp got schooled good by the nun, her jaw was agape.

She was embarassed for herself when what Sister said finally sunk into her little reptilian brain.

She is a very stupid woman, Sippy Cupp.

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