WTF?? Bill Clinton calls Romney after election and tells him he might have won if not for Sandy

[cali]

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Romney says president Bill Clinton called him after the election and said he might have won if not for Hurricane Sandy. Romney: "I spoke with president Clinton the day before yesterday, he called and spent thirty minutes chatting with me. He said a week out I thought you were going to win. And he said, but the hurricane happened, and it gave the president a chance to be presidential, and to look bipartisan, and you know he got a little more momentum, and of course he also said that when he was watching Ann speak at the Republican convention, he decided he was tempted to join the Republican Party. So he may have just been effusive with generous comments as he chatted. He was very complimentary, by the way, of how well we did with middle-class voters, and he said they were surprised by how strong we were in Ohio and in other states with middle-class voters, they did exceptionally well with minorities, but white, middle-class voters, we really cleaned up with and that caught them by surprise."

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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/obamas-gifts-small-campaign-bill-clintons-thoughtsromneys-parting/story?id=17727179#.UKUzQGetDfY

Maybe he's lying. here's another snippet from this piece:

Romney had a big transition team already working on the early stages of his administration, the former candidate told donors: "I wish you also had the chance to see the transition team. A large group of folks were working on everything from pieces of legislation to file to the first budget to executive orders, and it's disappointing we won't be able to file those executive orders, but I guess that happens, we're still having a hard time, just contemplating what could have been versus what is, and it just doesn't seem real, we're still in the stage of denial at my house. We still think the campaign is going on."

[Myrina]

1. Key phrase: "Romney Says" ....

That tells ya all you need to know.

LIE
LIE
LIE
LIE
LIE

[get the red out]

4. +1

Mitt Romney NEVER tells the truth, that can be counted on.

[Turborama]

13. How can you tell when Romney's lying?

It's when his mouth moves and words come out.

[Myrina]

18. If he's breathing, he's probably lying.

[bluestate10]

28. Exactly. Romney has been known to make stuff like that up. nt

[uponit7771]

39. +1!

[Atman]

51. LOL!

My first thought, too.

Romney? Telling the truth?

[kentuck]

2. In other words, "With God On Our Side"

???

[Ian David]

3. Bill wants Romney to run again so we'll have another landslide in 2016. n/t

[madokie]

38. You got it

Providing that what rMoney says is true of which I seriously doubt

[DURHAM D]

5. LOL

Bill was bored and decided to play yo-yo with Mitt.

[Ikonoklast]

93. I wonder how Bill kept from laughing while yanking Romney's chain?

Bill Clinton after hanging up...

"And then Barack...no, really, and then I said, "Mitt, you should run in 2016, you really had us scared!"

"HAAhahahaaaaa!!! Stop! Stop it, Blll, I'm going to pee!"

[rock]

6. It sure sounds like someone is having us on

Either MSNBC news or Bill Clinton.

[Angry Dragon]

7. Perhaps Willard can tell us all about it in his next book: 'My Wet Dreams'

[mikeytherat]

8. Good man, Clinton - twist the knife!

"Dude, you were so close. Just that one little thing. Don't be discouraged, and stay the course; you're winning. Winning!"



mikey_the_rat

[CanisCrocinus]

52. +1

This!

[cthulu2016]

9. I would tell him the same thing

I am delighted if Republicans think they almost won.

[Enrique]

10. look out, Mitt...

when Bill Clinton is talking about watching your wife, caution is advised.

he also said that when he was watching Ann speak at the Republican convention, he decided he was tempted to join the Republican Party.

[Wind Dancer]

84. LOL!

Good one!

[BlueMan Votes]

11. I'll let my pal Nelson speak for me...

[abolugi]

12. hmmmmm....

"when he (Clinton) was watching Ann speak at the Republican convention, he decided he was tempted to join the Republican Party."

I honestly can't imagine Bill was "tempted to join the Republican party" Especially because of Anne... She was horrid!! This just doesn't ring true..

[calico1]

14. Well, Romney has proved to be a pathological liar

so until I hear from a reliable source or Bill Clinton himself that he told him this, I will just assume this is another lie.

[ann---]

15. I don't believe Rmoney

and I don't think Clinton will dignify the lies with a response. He'll just let it hang there for all to see.

[immoderate]

16. Things Romney says require confirmation.

He is SOOO full of shit!

--imm

[brush]

17. "We still think the campaign is going on"

They are truly delusional. And I've watched Romney lie enough the last two years so I don't believe a word of what he said about Bill Clinton, who worked as hard as anyone for the President. Romney lies, remember.

[The Magistrate]

19. Our Bill can Be A Mean Tease, Ma'am....

[msanthrope]

32. Yes, he can. nt

[bigtree]

20. so, we're taking Romney at his word now?

[gordianot]

21. Maybe Mitt needs to be encouraged to stick around he and his kind are good targets for talkingpoints

Remember how early in the debate Republicans were quoting Bill Clinton I figured it was due to something Clinton encouraged. When Ryan passed his budget Clinton suggested he stop by. So what does Clinton do in the 2012 Democratic Convention he comes out and eviscerates the Republican Budget of Paul Ryan and destroys Mitt Romney? By now Republicans should learn their lesson obviously Romney has not. Romney or a clone would be a dream in 2016 and Bill may have a dog in that fight. Why does Clinton do this because he can, another lesson Republicans have not learned.

[Dalai_1]

22. He needs to get over his "denial"

[Grateful for Hope]

23. Since this was supposed to be a secret meeting

I highly doubt this is true. Just more of the lies that Romney can't seem to help himself from telling.

[ananda]

24. Maybe he's lying ...

[Blasphemer]

25. Bill was being both diplomatic and cagey

Assuming this conversation happened. Would someone from the winning team really call Romney and say, "you were a terrible candidate and you never really stood a chance, anyway"? That would be a pretty meanspirited thing for someone in Clinton's position to do. Then there is the fact that letting the GOP believe that anything but poor candidates and an unpopular platform is the reason for their losses is a smart thing to do. Do the Dems really want them to wise up?

What strikes me is that Romney is desperately grasping at straws. Instead of taking this conversation with Clinton for what it is - an act of diplomacy and charity - he's clinging to it in order to perpetuate the fiction that he could have won the election if not for bad luck.

[pacalo]

30. I agree with you. Good post.

[hlthe2b]

26. I call BS.... Has Romney EVER let the truth escape from his very entitled mouth?

Does anyone really believe Clinton would say that?

[yardwork]

71. Yes, I believe that the Big Dog could have said that and more.

Taunting Romney, running circles around Romney, encouraging Romney to keep doing what Romney does, which helps the Democrats.

[hlthe2b]

75. You have a point...

[patricia92243]

27. The article also says that Romney wanted "his team" to get together next

year decide the direction of GOP and who to run in the future, etc.

Sounds like he still has illusions that he will run again in 2016.

We really missed a bullet by not haveing him as Pres - I think he has mental/emotional problems.

[Blasphemer]

29. He thinks he's the standard bearer

I believe he's pretty much said that he's not running for President again but he seems to think that he can still lead the party. He is very, very wrong about that. The GOP is done with him.

[TeamPooka]

80. He thinks he's the GOP's CEO. Wait til he finds out it doesn't pay a salary..... nt

[Rider3]

31. I don't believe this at all

Romney has said a lot of things that are untrue. And, this is one of them. He's a perpetual liar, who believes if he keeps stating something, it'll become fact. Sadly, this is not the case. I don't think Romney would be able to go one day without a lie.

[librechik]

33. "He was very complimentary?" This smells like 6-week-old broccoli

I hope Big Dog corrects this bad impression and soon!

[msanthrope]

34. Oh, Willard, Bill Clinton just dissed you and you're too clueless to figure it out. nt

[Autumn]

35. Oh Bill. you rascal

"he also said that when he was watching Ann speak at the Republican convention, he decided he was tempted to join the Republican Party."

Nobody can do that like Bill Clinton. The man is a Jedi Master

And romney didn't even know he was being insulted,

[WinkyDink]

66. . IMO, that was a made-up ROMNEY insult to both Bill AND HILLARY.

I really hope, and believe, that Clinton was not this crass about another man's wife.

[Autumn]

70. That wasn't crass, that was a back handed complement.

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If you listen to ann romney speaking and compare her to Hillary speaking, you will know exactly how Bill put ann down.

[WinkyDink]

86. Well, okay, at least that would redeem Bill!

[appacom]

36. Bill Clinton was bullshitting the bullshitter, taking wicked delight in

in knowing that Romney hated his guts for how badly Clinton fucked him all over the country, and was a huge factor in why he lost. It was classic Clinton coming in for one last oneupmanship - now, I'm going to teach your dumbass to lie.

[grasswire]

37. he's gonna be like those Japanese soldiers who didn't know the war was over...

....even decades later. I never saw such a reluctant loser.

[RomneyLies]

40. Read. My. Username.

[ecstatic]

41. LMFAO

Bill Clinton might have called and attempted to be nice (he is a charmer), and he may have even tooted Romney's horn a little bit. But we'll never know because Romney is a liar. Clinton ripped him to shreds on several occasions and gave the speech of his life at the DNC convention. That tells me all I need to know.

I thought that on Nov 7 we would never have to hear from the lying asshole again, but sadly, I was wrong.

[Auntie Bush]

42. I'd love to know what those executive orders were.

One was probably to declare Obamacare null and void so it wouldn't have to go through congress. Bet he had a lot of executive orders in mind.

Two-declare an across the board tax cut of 20%. Then congress can work out/worry how to balance the budget on the poor and middle class...but the 1% would be guaranteed to
get their tax cut.

Three- Give the military 2 billion or trillion dollars.

The man is pure slime! I just hope he just oozes away into obscurity.

[tledford]

43. Wow. That last paragraph in what you quoted makes him sound really pathetic

in addition to egregiously hubris-filled.

[PD Turk]

44. Hmm

So, to boil it down, Bill to Mitt:

"If it hadn't been for that *Act of God* thing , you might have won little buddy"

[Liberalynn]

50. LOL

That's right Mittens. God didn't want you to be President.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

45. Good ole Bill. Still "triangulating".

[Arugula Latte]

54. That's the thing. It could be a Romney lie, but

knowing Clinton, it could also be exactly what he said. He is great a lot of the time and so very aggravating at others.

[Baitball Blogger]

60. +1

What does he care at that level, if his policies and diplomatic gestures make it harder on the rest of us?

As you said. He is great a lot of the time, and so very aggravating at others.

[Ganja Ninja]

46. Yeah he might have won if not for Sandy.

or all those black people and women and Latinos and union workers and sane people.

[flamingdem]

47. I told ya'll

Obama is a better President than Clinton. Really.

[GeorgeGist]

48. Maybe he's lying?

Whoa don't hurt yourself. That's pretty hefty thinking.

[dem4ward]

49. Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies...

[WinkyDink]

53. "when he was watching Ann speak at the Republican convention, he decided he was tempted to join the

Republican Party" =

THIS NEVER HAPPENED.

[WCGreen]

56. He was smooshing the loser...

That's what Clinton does best.

[WinkyDink]

64. Bill wouldn't have made that wisecrack implying lust for ROMNEY'S WIFE.

[sheshe2]

59. In His Dreams! n/t

[WinkyDink]

65. Whose, Mitt's or Clinton's?

[sheshe2]

73. LOL....Mittsies

[Lint Head]

55. Will Bill call him out on this? I wonder. He will be asked about it by the media.

[obamanut2012]

57. How do you know an article is not true?

It has the words "Romney says" in it.

[1StrongBlackMan]

58. Okay Clinton ...

put the final stake into romney's heart and call a press conference. You can keep it short and simple:

"I just read Governor romney's recount of a conversation we never had. Let me be clear, I have did not speak with Governor romney the day before yesterday ... I fact, I have not spoken with him since before the election. This is just another example of Governor romney's playing fast and loose with the truth; much like he did during his entire campaign.

[splat]

61. Clinton is a gracious winner, a gentleman, letting R save face n/t

[struggle4progress]

67. +

[Politicub]

62. I think Romney is lying - if his lips are moving, he's lying. But...

If Bill did give him a call it sounds like it was to deliver a hearty fuck you and to torment him a little bit. In Bill Clinton's voice - "Looks like Elohim cast his vote."

[Chiyo-chichi]

63. Even if this happened pretty much as Romney described, how "un-presidential" is this?

Recounting this conversation in this way?

[intaglio]

68. If BC did say this I suspect he may have been, In the imortal words of Del-boy

"Pulling Romney's plonker,"

[WinkyDink]

69. "we're still in the stage of denial at my house." I also can't believe Romney would say THIS.

[Iggo]

72. Move on.

[Warren Stupidity]

74. I'll translate.

"Hey chump why not bring you and your girlfriend over for drinks so we can get to know each other better. Better yet, just bring her over."

[hrmjustin]

76. Clinton was just being nice I guess.

[BlueStreak]

79. Maybe it is a Jedi mind game

"People really liked your lies about everything. And it is a shame that stupid hurricane came through when people were just warming up to the idea of turning Medicare into a clip-out coupon program. And this forced vaginal ultrasound plans -- pure genius. I have to tell you, you really had us on the ropes with your mysterious tax plan with unnamed cuts to be revealed after the election. If that old Hurricane hadn't come though, boy, oh boy, things would sure be different. I know the hurricane really kept you from making your big case for killing Social Security. Just bad luck, I guess. Well, maybe the next candidate will have a better chance to do that."

[rbrnmw]

77. Bill (Big Dog) Clinton

Is a political genius I believe he might have done this Look the guy is good friends with the Bush Family so much so that Babs calls him her son. The man can make friends with anyone and then he can call in the favors later. He knows what he is doing.

[ginnyinWI]

78. Maybe sometime someone could just ask Bill....? nt

[srichardson]

81. Hope you edit

when Clinton confronts Romney's lying pansy ass. I seriously doubt Clinton almost became a republican from listening to Ann Romney speak. Gag!

[Skinner]

82. No harm in being nice to the guy...

...after he's already lost the election.

[whatchamacallit]

87. So does this mean DU was wrong about Romney being a Colossal POS?

This is what's hard for dummies like me to square; one day it's all "MUST DESTROY THE MOST EVIL FUCK IN THE WORLD!", and the next it's all collegial tidings, compromise, and cabinet appointments.

[Skinner]

89. No. It just means that Mitt Romney is nobody now.

Before election day, he was one of the most important human beings on the planet.

Now that the election is over, he is nobody. He no longer matters. No need to waste any effort tearing him down anymore.

[whatchamacallit]

92. Ok, but what he is and what he stands for matters

and by extension our associations matter too. Of course you're right, this is meaningless in the grand scheme. I'm learning I suck at politics.

[demwing]

83. So then Bill Clinton says "I thought you were going to win"

In fact, Bill Clinton even said he VOTED for me, and Hillary too! Yeah...and Jimmy Carter said he donated $50,000 bucks and a bag of peanuts to my campaign. Solid GOLD peanuts! Yeah, that's the ticket!

[spanone]

85. fuck romney, i don't believe a word he says. period.

[pnwest]

88. Big Dawg might have just been having a little personal fun, and was blowing smoke up rmoney's shorts

cause he knew rmoney would go crow about it and look like an ass. Imagine Bill's sly, joking voice in your mind's ear, saying in his way "Ya know? Ya mighta won...if it hadn't been for that hurricane!" and just shinin' him on for fun cause he knew rmoney wouldn't realize he was being punked. How funny would THAT be?!

I know, if I was in the unique position of being a former President, pretty much own the world, just got off a tour of campaiging, my side won, and I'm riding a tide of personal popularity - I must admit, I'd fuck with fuckheads like romney just for "sport".

[Bucky]

90. If this is what it takes to shmooze up some more donations for the Clinton Center...

well, they do a lot of good work in the world. And Romney's always looking for a few good tax write offs.

[SDjack]

91. Hope it's true and encourages Rmoney to run again -- 3rd time is the charm. nt