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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Sun Aug 27, 2023, 03:21 PM Aug 2023

Jacksonville shooter tried to enter historically Black college before killing 3 in Dollar General st

Jacksonville shooter tried to enter historically Black college before killing 3 in Dollar General store
Law enforcement authorities release details and the name of the gunman
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/08/27/jacksonville-shooter-dollar-general-florida/


A White gunman who opened fire in a Jacksonville Dollar General store, killing three Black people in what law enforcement called a racially motivated attack, first tried to enter the campus of nearby historically Black college but was turned away, according to a notice from the school.

The man, identified on Sunday as 21-year-old Ryan Christopher Palmeter from Clay County, Fla., was denied entry to Edward Waters University by a security officer, and local law enforcement was alerted. “The individual refused to identify themselves and was asked to leave,” said the statement, adding that the person “returned to his car without incident.”

Palmeter donned a bulletproof vest and mask before heading to the Dollar General store less than a mile away and opening fire, Jacksonville Sheriff T.K. Waters (R) said in an interview on CNN on Saturday. Armed with an AR-15-type rifle inscribed with German Nazi insignia and a handgun, he killed two male victims, ages 19 and 29, inside the store, and one female victim, age 52, in the car park outside at the store before fatally shooting himself



Good gawd. Dozens would have likely been murdered if he’d gotten in
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Jacksonville shooter tried to enter historically Black college before killing 3 in Dollar General st (Original Post) Roland99 Aug 2023 OP
DeathSentence Will Probably Give Him A Medal. Deep State Witch Aug 2023 #1
He's dead, so no pardon will be necessary. Ocelot II Aug 2023 #3
Good point Deep State Witch Aug 2023 #4
Many campuses are wide open and there is no way to spooky3 Aug 2023 #2
A literal miracle. DetroitLegalBeagle Aug 2023 #7
Gee, Yesterday There Were Posters Here... ProfessorGAC Aug 2023 #5
We should be cautious about jumping to conclusions..... TheRealNorth Aug 2023 #8
Different Issue, But I Agree ProfessorGAC Aug 2023 #9
My husband works for university and had his first active shooter lockdown this spring. Runningdawg Aug 2023 #6

Deep State Witch

(10,465 posts)
1. DeathSentence Will Probably Give Him A Medal.
Sun Aug 27, 2023, 03:24 PM
Aug 2023

This being Florida, Gov. DeathSentence will probably pardon him and give him a medal.

spooky3

(34,499 posts)
2. Many campuses are wide open and there is no way to
Sun Aug 27, 2023, 03:41 PM
Aug 2023

Deny entrance to murderers like this. Very fortunate that lives were saved, but sorry for those at the store who were not so fortunate.

What will it take for us to stop this? Dem control of all 3 branches of government?

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,927 posts)
7. A literal miracle.
Sun Aug 27, 2023, 05:31 PM
Aug 2023

Control of Congress and Presidency, along with a SCOTUS majority would help. A near total ban could probably be passed and upheld that way.

But there isn't a easy way out of this. There are over 400 million guns in civilian hands in the US. 10s of millions are specifically AR15's. 10s of millions of other kinds of semi auto rifles are out there. Billions(I've read high end estimates in the low trillion range) of rounds of ammunition is out there. Hundreds of millions, if not billions, of high capacity magazines are out there. Those aren't all going to disappear magically even if we could pass a full ban.

ProfessorGAC

(65,251 posts)
5. Gee, Yesterday There Were Posters Here...
Sun Aug 27, 2023, 05:15 PM
Aug 2023

...that stated with certitude that the college's location wasn't relevant to the story.
That appears to be an erroneous jump in logic.

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
8. We should be cautious about jumping to conclusions.....
Sun Aug 27, 2023, 07:13 PM
Aug 2023

But it does frustrate me that whenever there is a police shooting, the police union us out there the next day spinning its narrative without waiting for the video/investigation to conclude.

ProfessorGAC

(65,251 posts)
9. Different Issue, But I Agree
Sun Aug 27, 2023, 07:17 PM
Aug 2023

I just found it annoying that cocksure posters were castigated others for posting about the connection to an HBCU, and now it's highly likely said connection did, in fact, exist. Geez, this punk went to the school first.
What, he couldn't find the Dollar General?

Runningdawg

(4,526 posts)
6. My husband works for university and had his first active shooter lockdown this spring.
Sun Aug 27, 2023, 05:17 PM
Aug 2023

Thankfully no one was injured, the cops chased him onto campus after he tried to murder his family and exchanged gunfire before he left campus. They chased him through Tulsa during rush hour, with a few shoot outs along the way and finally took him alive.
Campus security did a great job of keeping people safe and informed.

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