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jsr

(7,712 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:04 AM Nov 2012

Petraeus’s Icarus flight began when he set himself above President Obama

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/opinion/dowd-reputation-reputation-reputation.html

Reputation, Reputation, Reputation
By MAUREEN DOWD

...Petraeus’s Icarus flight began when he set himself above President Obama.

Accustomed to being a demigod, expert at polishing his own celebrity and swaying public opinion, Petraeus did not accept the new president’s desire to head for the nearest exit ramp on Afghanistan in 2009. The general began lobbying for a surge in private sessions with reporters and undercutting the president, who was trying to make a searingly hard call...

Once in Afghanistan, Petraeus welcomed prominent conservative hawks from Washington think tanks. As Greg Jaffe wrote in The Washington Post, they were “given permanent office space at his headquarters and access to military aircraft to tour the battlefield. They provided advice to field commanders that sometimes conflicted with orders the commanders were getting from their immediate bosses.”

So many more American kids and Afghanistan civilians were killed and maimed in a war that went on too long. That’s the real scandal.
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Petraeus’s Icarus flight began when he set himself above President Obama (Original Post) jsr Nov 2012 OP
K&R n/t Lugnut Nov 2012 #1
Remember this general named MacArthur? Big fargin' war hero who... TreasonousBastard Nov 2012 #2
Big fargin' war hero who totally and completely fucked up with coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #9
I dunno why the hell Dowd... BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #3
I stopped reading after the fourth word. Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #6
Never read Jesse Wendel, huh? BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #8
This blog post nails Betray-us and has the harsh feel of truth. Thanks coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #10
If Reports That The CIA Had A Secret Prison In Benghazi Are True DallasNE Nov 2012 #4
Icarus flight marions ghost Nov 2012 #5
Military disdain for civilian leadership is an ongoing problem. ancianita Nov 2012 #7
K & R Scurrilous Nov 2012 #11
Last line nails it Hydra Nov 2012 #12
She went right for his balls. Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #13

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
2. Remember this general named MacArthur? Big fargin' war hero who...
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:34 AM
Nov 2012

thought the President was a useless little shit...

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
9. Big fargin' war hero who totally and completely fucked up with
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:13 PM
Nov 2012

regard to China's intentions, should we cross the 38th parallel.

And who disobeyed a direct order not to speak to the media.

I'll overlook a lot of HST's flaws b/c he had the balls to fire MacArthur. At the time, this was a very risky political move although subsequent events and public opinion largely vindicated HST.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
10. This blog post nails Betray-us and has the harsh feel of truth. Thanks
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:21 PM
Nov 2012

for posting.

The general has a problem with his privates!

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
4. If Reports That The CIA Had A Secret Prison In Benghazi Are True
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:45 AM
Nov 2012

Then that is clear insubordination. Since that data is classified we will likely never know but it would be another case of Petraeus putting himself above the President.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
12. Last line nails it
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:24 PM
Nov 2012

Obama got pushed into/rolled into doing Republican dirty work. I remember it from the 2008 debates when McCain continued to hammer the lie that "The Surge Worked!!!!"

This is what happens when we try to make nice-nice with Republicans and allow them near the levers of power. Good people die while others get rich and have sex parties.

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