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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAlmost human: Photographer's intimate studio portraits that show wild creatures making unnervingly
similar gestures to us
The 54-year-old has created a collection of incredible photographic portraits of animals so intimate they reveal the complex emotions of their subjects. And the emotions on show look strikingly familiar to our own
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Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)zbdent
(35,392 posts)our boardroom ... ixnay on the corporate talk ... start grunting ..."
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)TahitiNut
(71,611 posts)The lighting and tones are very evocative.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)is the perfect description for it.
AlecBGreen
(3,874 posts)BlueMan Votes
(903 posts)it sure looks freaky.
BlueMan Votes
(903 posts)seeing the little tufts of feathers, i just assumed that it had been plucked.
nope.
http://avaxnews.com/disgusting/Naked_Chicken.html
A genetically engineered featherless rooster struts around the campus of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem's Department of Agriculture May 22, 2002 in Rehovot, Israeli. After two years of research, departmental scientists announced the naked chicken, as it has been dubbed, as a low calorie bird because the lack of feathers means the chicken has less fat. It also matures earlier than its feathered counterparts. (Photo by Moshe Milner/GPO/Getty Images)
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)BlueMan Votes
(903 posts)Skittles
(153,160 posts)yes INDEED
cui bono
(19,926 posts)I'm sure they also do it so there's less work when they process them into food.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)That poor chicken! There's a reason it had feathers...but we just found that "inconvenient"
cui bono
(19,926 posts)I don't hear the outcry.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)If there was ever a case of trampling in "God's" flower garden, genetic engineering would be PRIME.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Berlum
(7,044 posts)msongs
(67,406 posts)AlecBGreen
(3,874 posts)We are special in that we are the only species that (AFAWK) can contemplate the nature of reality and our place in it. We are made in God's image in that, like God, we have the ability to create, to shape nature and to help draw out its latent potential. Not only that but we also take great joy in our handiwork. Thats the way I see it anyway. That doesn't strike me as arrogant.
Which isn't much. Up until recently infants were not given anesthesia because it was thought they had not developed the equipment to feel pain yet.
What do you know? We assumed, and they suffered. Not unlike the animals that supposedly can't talk and don't have more than instincts.
Hopefully one day we'll give equal status and consideration to our fellow living being as equals...but since we can't even do that with our own species, I'm not holding my breath.
I had never heard what you mentioned re: infant anesthesia. How could anyone assume that!? Crazy... (I say "crazy" with the complete understanding that many years from now, our descendants will look back on us and the views we now hold and wonder the same thing!)
I dont think we will ever give equal consideration and status to animals. I cannot imagine a scenario where the life of a human and say, the life of a deer are held to be equal. I DO think we will increase our compassion towards animals but where does one draw the line? At insects? Worms? Do we include plants? Maybe sequoias and ancient oaks etc but what about dandelions and thistles? Im not trying to be trite, I just think that on so many issues, its not black and white but gray.
"...since we can't even do that with our own species, I'm not holding my breath." I hear you but dont give up hope!
Hydra
(14,459 posts)I eat meat. I enjoy eating meat. We can't live without eating things that are alive and probably aware. We eat some things raw, or kill them horribly in the cooking process(Lobster anyone?). Are we wrong to do that, or is that the cycle of life?
At the root though, I think we do ourselves and other animals a disservice by dismissing them as lesser beings. By disrespecting them(and each other in similar ways) we're closing our mind to a bigger world that exists, but we don't accept.
the arrogance of believing these creatures don't have souls boggles my mind. All a person (who does not have massive inferiority complex) has to do is look into any one of those animal's eyes and SEE the soul, the unique individual. Different from humans, but no less valuable or unique.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)I could not agree more. My mother says that if our pets and other animals do not go to Heaven when they die, she doesn't want to go there either. She wants to go where our pets went when they died. I agree with her. I'm not sure what happens or if there really is an afterlife, but if there is, I don't want to go to an afterlife without animals in it. An afterlife without animals would be my definition of a Hell.
To this day, I still despise the term "anthropomorphism." Animals most certainly do have emotions. Anyone who claims otherwise must have their heads in the sand. It would take an extremely dense, cold, and uncaring person not to see it after seeing all of the videos of animals showing real emotions toward not only their own kind, but also toward other species, including humans. Of course, when I mentioned the word a while back on DU and how scientists coined that term and that many scientists follow that school of thought, I was lambasted as anti-science. No, I'm pro-science. I just think the scientists that refuse to acknowledge that animals express emotions and have emotions need to get their heads out of the sand and look at the animals around them.
alterfurz
(2,474 posts)...and he's been getting lower ever since." -- Mark Twain
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)The two conures are down right amazing.
Livluvgrow
(377 posts)looks to me like it is flipping off whoever plucked it.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)That was created in Israel that is featherless. I am betting this is the case.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Frosty1
(1,823 posts)Thank you for sharing!
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)Very cool article, thank you.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/nikon-small-world-winners/?pid=5122
I want to find the one at the link in the wide screen laptop size for wallpaper. I think it is 1400x990 or something like that. It's so adorable. If the first bat embryo on the left just had his little wing/hands (I can't remember the correct term) over his ears, it would be a perfect "Hear no evil. Speak no evil. See no evil." photo. I love it anyhow.
The one in the article in the OP is adorable too.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)I have it as my wallpaper now. I love that picture. Thank you so much.
kimbutgar
(21,153 posts)It is so obvious we are all living creatures on this planet and have a shared essence, that words can't adequately describe.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)arthritisR_US
(7,288 posts)brer cat
(24,565 posts)Just speechless. Thanks for sharing.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)Go Vols
(5,902 posts)+1
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)All of these pictures are intense. Thanks.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)Some day we will recognize that the well-being of other sentient creatures matters as much as our own well-being.
blue neen
(12,321 posts)These pictures are amazing and enlightening.
graywarrior
(59,440 posts)IDoMath
(404 posts)"And the emotions on show look strikingly familiar to our own "
They may look familiar but you do a disservice to the animal to assume they are similar. Anthropomorphizing animals deprives them of their own identities and clouds our ability to learn what those identities are.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)They aren't "almost human." They are fully animal, the same as us.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Amazing and moving.
But the emotions look like ours because we anthropomorphize.... everything from these animals to the weather.
In reality, one has little idea how animals see and interpret the world. I mean, your cat or dog really doesn't understand what you say to them. They live in a world of sounds and smells we cannot detect. And they don't see as we see. And of course they don't have the same brain with the same connections we have.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)and do other tricks based on words we say to them are just doing the exact thing we ask them at the exact time we ask them are doing it all by mere coincidence then? Those are some pretty amazing coincidences, aren't they?
Your post is full of shit.
I had a cat that knew left from right based on what directions we gave her after she went blind. Not only that, she knew exactly what we told her on many many everyday things. She even got my aunt's medicine for her when I was away and my aunt needed that certain medicine to be able to breathe.
Animals can and do understand what we are saying to them. The biggest problem is that we don't understand what they say to us. When it comes to superiority in understanding communications outside of their own species, animals have us beat, hands down.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Oh please....
Are you serious? You think you dog understands English. Are you gonna teach it French next?
Hydra
(14,459 posts)My dog used to play games with us to get more treats. One of the things he'd do occasionally was look at us blankly when we gave him a command, basically a non-verbal "I don't speak english..."
I decisively caught him at it though. I had my back turned so was not looking at him or giving him gestures and told him I had a treat for him and that he needed to leave the dining room and go sit and wait by the front door.
He couldn't do it fast enough! Busted!
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)C'mon people!
You've GOT to be joking! Knowing a few commands to sit and stay is NOT UNDERSTNDING ENGLISH. Have you tried explaining pluperfect tense to your dog yet?
Jesus H Christ!
Putting together a string of commands is...language. Understanding and doing it or resisting it is also known as "thought."
The truth is, we're all animals, just like them. We do some things better than them, and they do some things better than us.
The idea that they don't think is a funny one, but if it helps you feel better about yourself, feel free to continue to believe so despite evidence to the contrary.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Where did I say that????
Please quote me saying they don't think.
They DO think.... but not like us.
If you tell your well trained dog to shit instead of sit.... I'll be he sits instead. He does not understand what you are talking to him about. He may understand a handful of commands, because he expects a reward, even if you say a similar word...or a different sounding word altogether but use the same hand gestures. But that is not what I am talking about.
I do understand English, however and can see when you make things up and put words in my mouth. You folks are ridiculous!
P.S. You cat wants to wear clothes too...and even though he's a carnivore, you dog really wants to eat vegan!
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)So is an amoeba... teach it to sit....
barnabas63
(1,214 posts)I don't know why, but they are interesting and in a strange way even CUTE!
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)but that's one damn cute bat.
barnabas63
(1,214 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)Is your username and the fact you like bats a coincidence or are you a Dark Shadows fan?
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)They eat lots of mosquitoes. With the threat from so many diseases from mosquitoes, I am thankful to the bats' appetites for mosquitoes.
I have always thought bats were cute and amazing creatures. Welcome to the bat appreciation world. They are amazing little creatures.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)awwwwwww lovely
xchrom
(108,903 posts)scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)And continue to eat chicken.