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marmar

(77,097 posts)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:02 PM Nov 2012

Pope Escalates Anti-Gay Marriage Holy War, Compares Gay Marriage To Polygamy


Pope Escalates Anti-Gay Marriage Holy War, Compares Gay Marriage To Polygamy
by David Badash on November 13, 2012


After three U.S. states voted to extend the institution of marriage to same-sex couples, and a fourth refused to enshrine a ban into its constitution, and on the footsteps of Spain upholding its same-sex marriage laws and France pushing forward with theirs, the Vatican escalated Pope Benedict XVI‘s international anti-gay marriage holy war.

“In a front-page article in Saturday’s Vatican newspaper L’Osservatore Romano, the Holy See sought to frame itself as the lone voice of courage in opposing initiatives to give same-sex couples legal recognition,” the AP reported in The Huffington Post:

In a separate Vatican Radio editorial, the pope’s spokesman asked sarcastically why gay marriage proponents don’t now push for legal recognition for polygamous couples as well.

Catholic teaching holds that homosexuals should be respected and treated with dignity but that homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered.” The Vatican also opposes same-sex marriage, insisting on the sanctity of marriage between a man and woman as the foundation for society.


The AP adds:

The article insisted that Catholics were putting up a valiant fight to uphold church teaching in the face of “politically correct ideologies invading every culture of the world” that are backed by institutions like the United Nations, which last year passed a non-binding resolution condemning anti-gay discrimination.

“The church is called to present itself as the lone critic of modernity, the only check … to the breakup of the anthropological structures on which human society was founded,” it said.

Vatican spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi, for his part, said gays can have their rights protected by means other than through legal marital recognition. He stressed that children should have a right to say they have a father and a mother.

“If not, then why not contemplate freely chosen polygamy, and naturally so as to not discriminate, polyandry?” he asked sarcastically. Polyandry is when a woman has two or more husbands.


Noting “what’s most laughably ridiculous about the Vatican’s latest outburst against LGBT rights is that it just can’t let go of one of the oldest, dumbest arguments against them in the world,” Salon’s Mary Elizabeth Williams has a few thoughts for Pope Benedict: ..................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pope-escalates-anti-gay-marriage-holy-war-compares-gay-marriage-to-polygamy/politics/2012/11/13/53617



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Pope Escalates Anti-Gay Marriage Holy War, Compares Gay Marriage To Polygamy (Original Post) marmar Nov 2012 OP
It's the time honored slippery slope argument justiceischeap Nov 2012 #1
Well, it's not like the CHURCH would ever support polygamous marriage... brooklynite Nov 2012 #3
So what? Indydem Nov 2012 #2
The Pope's Cardinals and Bishops must register as foreign agents. Dawson Leery Nov 2012 #4
"The church is called to present itself as the lone critic of modernity" Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #5
Gotta love that Wizard of Oz imagery and syntax. closeupready Nov 2012 #7
Wizard of Oz -- That's a good way to put it Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #9
Yeah...the good old days...days like THIS: Ken Burch Nov 2012 #15
whoa! gay polygamy! mike_c Nov 2012 #6
Roman Catholic dogma on this issue and MineralMan Nov 2012 #8
I wish the Vatican would be thrown into the dustbin of history where it belongs. nt bayareamike Nov 2012 #10
Let me take yez to school, Ratzi. hifiguy Nov 2012 #11
This is right up there with Benedict's claim that ordaining women is just as evil as pedophilia. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #12
Let's just shut the whole Roman Catholic Church down, MineralMan Nov 2012 #13
I got no problem with it. Dr. Strange Nov 2012 #14
STFU pope dracula we can do it Nov 2012 #16

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
1. It's the time honored slippery slope argument
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:03 PM
Nov 2012

When that doesn't work, it's the animal comparisons that are next. "Next thing ya know, people are going to want to marry animals or kids." It always goes there.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
2. So what?
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:09 PM
Nov 2012

Polygamy, polyandry, gay marriage, straight marriage, no marriage.

Who CARES??

Let people be free to do whatever they want. FREEDOM.

If it is sinful, and their is a God and a hell, then they will burn in hell. Why is it government's job to give a shit?

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
5. "The church is called to present itself as the lone critic of modernity"
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:16 PM
Nov 2012

Yeah, we all know your Church longs for the good old days of medieval times, you sick creepy freaks.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
9. Wizard of Oz -- That's a good way to put it
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:32 PM
Nov 2012

So many similarities there, except it turns out the Wizard wasn't such a bad guy in the end, but the Pope definitely is.

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
8. Roman Catholic dogma on this issue and
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:23 PM
Nov 2012

the issue of reproductive choice, especially as it applies to non-Catholics, is "intrinsically disordered." The Pope is full of crap on those issues, and is not Emperor of the World. May his lips speak no more of this.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
11. Let me take yez to school, Ratzi.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:41 PM
Nov 2012

In the United States, and in most developed countries around the world, one can choose to be married in a civil ceremony - before a judge - or in a religious ceremony in which the participants presume that an all-powerful Invisible Sky Wizard or perhaps the Flying Spaghetti Monster or the Invisible Pink Unicorn or some benevolent cosmic entity is consecrating the ceremony.

People married before a judge are just as "married" as people who get married in a church or somewhere near a beer volcano. My parents were married by a judge. I worked for a judge who must have married two dozen couples during my time with him. If your particular Invisible Sky Wizard, among the many who have been alleged to exist as the ONLY ISW, doesn't want to observe Teh Awful Geyhz getting hitched, so be it. Believe in whatever benighted bullshit you want to believe in. Gay couples can go find a more enlightened religious organization that puts the whole brotherhood of humanity (including the female half) thing into actual, ya know, practice, or they can hie themselves down to the courthouse and have Judge Jones perform the ceremony.

They will be just as married.

Butt out, Ratzi. Don't you have some child-rapists to transfer somewhere?

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
12. This is right up there with Benedict's claim that ordaining women is just as evil as pedophilia.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:44 PM
Nov 2012

Please God...take the old Hitler Youth alum home soon. He's destroying everything beautiful and worthwhile in your Church. Nothing will be left.

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
13. Let's just shut the whole Roman Catholic Church down,
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:45 PM
Nov 2012

have a global garage sale to sell everything it owns and then give all the money generated directly to the world's poverty-stricken peoples. Then, we could say that the Roman Catholic Church contributed to ending poverty as its last act, in its death throes.

I'm being serious here, BTW.

Put an end to indefensible dogmatic things like what is described in this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021817890

Dr. Strange

(25,926 posts)
14. I got no problem with it.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:48 PM
Nov 2012
“If not, then why not contemplate freely chosen polygamy, and naturally so as to not discriminate, polyandry?”


Totally agree--they should be legal.
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