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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKerry or Rice for Secretary of State for US Government. (Bias Confo: I'm for Kerry)
So tell me why I should want to support Rice?
I don't like Kerry, either...but, have some "inchie" of favor for him over Rice's Strident support of "BiBi." I don't like that so I don't want Rice in there...also she's seemed to try to trash Hillary and push for her OWN agenda.
Just saying....I'm sort of on the fence on this and wanted to hear good arguments ..Pro and Con..about either.
Love a Discussion!
politicasista
(14,128 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)That's why I posted.
To Me...it was the choice between the two.
I said that I favored Kerry over Rice..I wanted to hear arguments "pro & con" from partisans who support each one because I wanted to be convinced as to why was Rice better than Kerry or the oppposite.
I just wanted to see if folks could discuss this for each candidate and sway me from Kerry for SOS as opposed to Donna Rice.
politicasista
(14,128 posts)liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)I don't really want to lose one of our own in the Senate, but let's be honest. John Kerry would be a PERFECT candidate for SOS.
wryter2000
(46,081 posts)Scott Brown is already salivating over Kerry's seat.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)That's why I posted...I'm "on the fence" but towards Kerry..... But, Rice does have a few views that makes me torn.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)JFTR - there is no bigger Hillary Clinton fan on DU than me.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)He is being considered for Defense.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)right after we licked his ass to the curb.
Also, it would then be possible to say "Secretary of State Rice" without ing in my mouth.
still_one
(92,394 posts)We have every had
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:42 PM - Edit history (1)
Raine
(30,540 posts)Gary Hart's fling.
still_one
(92,394 posts)Laurian
(2,593 posts)As a fan of Hillary Clinton, that has a bearing on my feelings about Rice. While I would hate to lose a Senate seat, Kerry's long time service and expertise would make him an excellent choice.
Bill and Hillary being hostile to Obama during primaries, we can all forgive and forget clearly. Now Hillary and Obama work well together, so why hold grudges?
KoKo
(84,711 posts)he'd go back to his roots from Vietnam and get his "spirit back." OTOH...Rice is seen as the future for our Party. I just have some kind of caution about her...
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)I am sure she would be fine, but I would stick with what I know. Kerry would have an easier time getting confirmed.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)by Obama. I think he's a good fit. But, so many DU'ers love Donna Rice...(yet, I've not seen anything from her that makes me want to support her) that I am torn between the two.
protect our future
(1,156 posts)tidal wave of DUers who seem to be terrified of Scott Brown.
As to what is best for the country, I think that decision should be left up to President Obama and the individuals being considered for high-level positions.
politicasista
(14,128 posts)I think so too.
satxdem
(131 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I like Kerry--a lot. As a Kerrytraveler, I drove from CA to volunteer in Kerry's campaign in OH for 2 months. I think Kerry would make a great SoS. But I'll trust President Obama's judgment and support his decision, whatever it is.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Don't you think that those of us who VOTED for Obama have a voice in his decisions?
protect our future
(1,156 posts)That's why I'm expressing my opinion, as is everyone else here. OK?
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)FU Catholic Church who tried to shut her down at Anna Maria College/Worcester commencement speech.
midnight
(26,624 posts)"As a fellow Harvard Law grad and Rhodes Scholar, Russ Feingold would be the perfect choice. As a Senator, he served for 18 years as a member of the Senate Foreign Relations committee and was Chairman of the African Subcommittee. He was also a member of the East Asian and Pacific Affairs Committee, which includes China, and the Near Eastern and South and Central Asian Affairs Committee, which includes Egypt and the rest of North Africa. In short, Russ Feingold is an expert in the Arab Spring and Chinese politics.
His work has been especially prescient in regards to Egypt, as he was one of the few U.S. politicians to call for the end to its oppressive regime before anyone had to light themselves on fire to draw attention to the issue. In May 2010, he criticized the extension of emergency law in Egypt, which had been in place since 1981. He said:"
"Russ Feingold has also been one of the most outspoken critics of the Patriot Act and the erosion of our individual liberties. His new book, "While America Sleeps," will fully explain his strong opposition to warrantless wiretapping, secret law, and human rights abuses committed by our government since 9/11. Obama has not been able to institute his view for America's military because, as Commander-in-Chief, he's had the responsibility of concluding the wars he inherited, but I fully expect his second term to reflect his true views on America's role in the world.
Lastly, Feingold's message that he will not be running for "elective office" leaves plenty of room for him to be appointed Secretary of State. He's already promising to play a role in getting Obama reelected, "I was especially thinking of the need to reelect President Obama. I will be working to reelect him and hope to play a significant role in that effort." The Citizens United decision didn't discourage Russ Feingold. He's not going to sit on the sidelines as a law professor for much longer. Rather than bring progressive change to the State of Wisconsin, which has proven to be able to stand up for itself, he's going to help President Obama make progressive change globally."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/19/1008628/-Russ-Feingold-Secretary-of-State
KoKo
(84,711 posts)has been a voice for much of us on the Left of the Dem Party. I was hoping Obama would finally LISTEN to those of us he didn't listen to in his First Four Years...and there were many of us who voted for HIM when our conscience said: VOTE THIRD PARTY.
He does owe us something...I would think...since he wants Dem Party to RULE?
Vote third party, just another way of supporting the republican ticket. Seems like flawed logic.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)since his young "Anti-War" years when he ran for Senate.
I'm not sure I trust him...but I trust Donna Rice somewhat less because of her hard line on Palestinians and their Freedom.
protect our future
(1,156 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Vietnam was futile, Iraq was futile. Kerry would recognize a real threat.
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)Vicki Kennedy - Kerry's seat.
Supersedeas
(20,630 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)I don't know aout this.