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CurtEastPoint
(18,671 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)CurtEastPoint
(18,671 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)-anti vax-anti immigration-anti aid to Ukraine-anti trans.
allegorical oracle
(2,357 posts)his participation in the McCarthy hearings, sitting alongside Roy Cohn. Like to think he later regretted aiding and abetting those dark times. Robert Jr. is an odd, disappointing person, but every family seems to have one of those.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Hekate
(90,919 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Caliman73
(11,760 posts)As were many at the time. They likely, similar to many politicians at the time, allowed themselves to be swept up in the fervor. There is room in the Party for people who have acted rashly in fervor of the time, but changed direction or softened with time. There is less room for people who continue to promote policies and ideas that have been debunked over and over again. Even less so, for people who ally themselves with people who would see Liberalism and the Democratic party criminalized and destroyed.
RFK Sr. did neither of the latter two and RFK Jr continues to do both to this day.
Dorian Gray
(13,514 posts)I was like: Is there really a question about this?
Celerity
(43,637 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,344 posts)As in appendage, not height.
Historic NY
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|]Judi Lynn
(160,656 posts)I think he has grown up terrified he will be gunned down, too. He's probably trying his best not to offend the criminally insane right-wing, and not speaking from the heart at all.
spooky3
(34,509 posts)A profession where he would be unlikely to be targeted?
Judi Lynn
(160,656 posts)He's going through the motions, but clearly unlikely to be assassinated, as progressives don't gun down people they dislike or resent. That's a reactionary, ignorant fool's profile.
spooky3
(34,509 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Is there a yearning in our nation for a Democrat who wants to end our aid to Ukraine, is adamantly anti-vaccination, believes 5G causes cancer, and believes tap water is making men effeminate?
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DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Does atrazine make you trans?
Atrazine is a commonly used herbicide in the U.S. The Environmental Protection Agency regulates how much is allowed in drinking water and evaluates potential ecological and human health risks.
No scientific studies in humans have linked atrazine exposure to gender dysphoria. It has been linked, in some studies, to birth defects and other reproductive health problems.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.s claim appears to be based on a 2010 University of California, Berkeley study that found that when male frogs were exposed to atrazine, some lost fertility and developed ovaries. Differences in human and frog biology mean these findings do not unilaterally extend to humans.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/jun/28/robert-f-kennedy-jr/no-evidence-atrazine-in-the-water-supply-is-causin/
His wife and children support his candidacy. Can he point to a Kennedy other than his wife and children who supports his candidacy?
Does 5G cause cancer?
No there is no good evidence that the 5G mobile network increases cancer risk. 5G networks use higher frequency waves than 4G or older mobile networks, but they still don't have enough energy to damage DNA to cause cancer.
https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/cancer-myths/do-mobile-phones-cause-
*His wife and children support his candidacy. Can he point to a Kennedy other than his wife and children who supports his candidacy? I should have been more precise.
womanofthehills
(8,795 posts)Pursing a career?????
He has been one of the top US environmental lawyers for 35 yrs - took over 500 polluters of our rivers, land and air to court esp representing poor and indigenous communities in US & South American. He was even jailed in SA for his activism.
He & his team won the first big case against Bayer/Monsanto - the beginning of the thousands of glyphosate causing cancer cases. He won $290 million for Lee Johnson a groundskeeper. Now Bayer has put out $10 billion to settle thousands of cases of Hodgkins lymphoma.
He currency works for the largest law firm in the US and is now representing over 1000 people who became sick in Columbiana County, Ohio - people whose lives were changed for the worse after the East Palestine train derailment where the RR ignited the toxic chemicals. He is often in East Palestine- having coffee with the locals residents. I
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wins historic $290 million case against giant Monsanto and Roundup weed-killer
Environmental lawyer, the son of the late U.S. Senator Robert F. Kennedy and nephew President John F. Kennedy, and his team, have won a historic case claiming the product likely caused the cancer of their client. https://www.irishcentral.com/news/robert-f-kennedy-case-monsanto-roundup-weed-killer
TrotskyistTidings
(28 posts)It's still a shitty clock thats 2 hours behind and makes screeching noises every about 30 seconds give or take an hour.
ShazzieB
(16,579 posts)Which is that the same person can be both a skilled environmental lawyer and an antivaxx crackpot. In other words, RFK Jr. is just an another specimen for the "humans are complex, flawed, and often deeply contradictory creatures" exhibition.
It sure as hell doesn't prove that he should hold public office, much less be potus.
MerryBlooms
(11,773 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)NoRethugFriends
(2,345 posts)JohnSJ
(92,482 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 9, 2023, 12:45 PM - Edit history (1)
his anti-vaccine crusade. RFK jr is NOT a nice person, and I have nothing but contempt for him.
"Anti-vaccine activist Robert F. Kennedy Jr. made deeply offensive comments when he suggested things are worse for people today than they were for Anne Frank, the teenager who died in a Nazi concentration camp after hiding with her family in a secret annex in an Amsterdam house for two years, the Anti-Defamation League and U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum said Monday.
Making reckless comparisons to the Holocaust, the murder of six million Jews, for a political agenda is outrageous and deeply offensive. Those who carelessly invoke Anne Frank, the star badge, and the Nuremberg Trials exploit history and the consequences of hate, the museum said Monday in a statement posted to Twitter."
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/24/robert-kennedy-holocaust-vaccines-00001548
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)JohnSJ
(92,482 posts)womanofthehills
(8,795 posts)Said Pres Kennedy & the CIA hated each other as the CIA constantly wanted his uncle to send troops to Laos, Viet Nam and Cuba.
He said his uncle told his advisers he wished he could abolish the CIA.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)I will leave it up to others to divine if President John Kennedy who said, "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty" would throw Ukraine under the bus?
Here who is says informs his opinion on Ukraine:
Well, if I want to know about whats happening in Ukraine, I might read Doug Macgregors site, or a number of other just alternative sites.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-alternative-facts-of-robert-f-kennedy-jr
Macgregor has appeared as a regular guest on Fox News, with at least 60 Fox weekday appearances from August 2017 to early 2022, including 48 on Tucker Carlsons show.[15] Carlson regularly praises Macgregor, describing him as our first choice for foreign policy analysis and one of the people we trust to give us real information". According to Media Matters for America, it was this which got Macgregor on the radar of President Donald Trump.[15] In May 2019, on the Carlson show, Macgregor urged Trump to replace senior national security officials, describing them as part of this bipartisan globalist elite.[15]
Macgregor opposes diversity or affirmative action programmes in the military, including women serving in combat. In a 2021 interview, while serving on the West Point board, he said:
What we call diversity in the extreme. In other words, affirmative action programs for every conceivable category of humanity that the left wants to come up with, said Macgregor. Whether its someone who is a gender neutral or homosexual or whatever else, the left loves to put us into categories and push this. And the people that went along with it and said, sure, lets put women into the combat forces. Lets have women everywhere. Lets do whatever we want to do. Were going to create this brave new world where everyone is the same. There are no differences, nothing matters. So I think thats where we are.[63]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor
Cha
(297,878 posts)from the very start to GET THE HELL OUT OF Ukraine! And Continue to Tell him!
Zelenski and the Ukrainian People aren't Gong to LIE DOWN and Let Russia Take Their Democratic Country.
I don't buy that "No aide to Ukraine" CRAP he's selling.
Glory to Ukraine! 💙
genxlib
(5,546 posts)He seems to believe that the Government had a hand in his Fathers death and it has led him to be a conspiracy theorist on all things that involve trust in Government.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)The Kennedy clan is huge, Why didn't it affect other members of it similarly? You don't see them palling around with Steve Bannon and Roger Stone and failing to criticize Donald Trump and Alex Jones.
womanofthehills
(8,795 posts)He talks about what bullets came from what guns and matches them up.
He believes CIA murdered his Uncle for sure & probably his father too. Why wont the gov release the Kennedy death info?
Pres Kennedy let it be known to certain advisors that he despised the CIA and wanted it disbanded because the CIA was pressuring him to go to war in Cuba, Laos, and send more troops to Viet Nam. Pres Kennedy was anti war and spoke against the military industrial complex.
sheshe2
(83,983 posts)Their own mother was in the car sitting right next to him as the bullet went through her husband's head. She had to have been spattered with his blood. There were rumors of government involvement, yet they didn't go to the dark side.
There are no excuses for why he became a vicious anti-vaxer. Or why he became buddies with Stone, Bannon and the GOP.
ShazzieB
(16,579 posts)Non-crazy ones,, I mean. There's got to to be more to why he is the way he is than just the Kennedy "legacy."
I can definitely believe he was traumatized by the assassinations, but if he felt a strong family obligation to go into politics because of it, why wait till he's nearly 70 to run for anything?
That's right, he was born on January 17, 1954, so he'll be 70 early next year. If he really felt politics was his calling, surely he wouldn't have waited this long.
GoCubsGo
(32,099 posts)Which is why you don't see his siblings, who didn't have that kind of issue, behaving like lunatics. Granted, all the family trauma no doubt contributed to his addiction issues.
womanofthehills
(8,795 posts)And has been in AAA for35 yrs and still attends meetings daily/weekly.
GoCubsGo
(32,099 posts)Much of the period when he was addicted was his late teens and early 20s, which is when the brain is still developing. It's a horrible time to expose the brain to that kind of substance.
we can do it
(12,208 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)are supporting him
At the very least they want to usevRFK Jr as leverage to get a buy in on their agenda..
RFK Jr has some whackjob ideas.
TheBlackAdder
(28,237 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)womanofthehills
(8,795 posts)Said their campaign pulled in a million a day for the last 3 days.
Link to tweet
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greatauntoftriplets
(175,761 posts)I was certain that I was going to die because I also have a ouldn't warare autoimmune disease. I ended up with a mild case, lived, and couldn't wait until I had my first vaccine. Haven't had it since, but five vaccine doses later I am not so afraid of it.
So, my opinion of him is unfavorable. His father must be spinning in his grave.
genxlib
(5,546 posts)Vaccines are arguably the number one invention in all of human kind for saving lives.
If he had been in charge over the last 50 years, his policies would have resulted in countless deaths.
Someone with those policies may very well have been the most deadly person in human history.
So "unfavorable" is being kind.
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GP6971
(31,227 posts)Please make an illegal U Turn.
Enjoy your stay!! Short as it may be.
genxlib
(5,546 posts)GP6971
(31,227 posts)Basic LA
(2,047 posts)Where he attacks Biden & Dr. Fauci, but won't criticize Bannon or Trump. He's a disturbed individual and he said he was a heavy heroin addict for 14 years. That's how he knows about injections.
LowerManhattanite
(2,391 posts)
unwell person who has come to realize its NOT at all un-lucrative to coddle the right while rhetorically throwing rocks and hiding his hand in discussing fairer minded people.
If you make three left turns, you wind up going to the right. 🤷🏾?♂️
brooklynite
(94,839 posts)Never understood the point.
Initech
(100,116 posts)The guy is a fucking idiot. Youre not winning points with Democrats by groveling on Newsmax and Steve Bannons War Room.
albacore
(2,408 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,750 posts)Quixote1818
(29,002 posts)Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
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DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)You're going to love it here.
Elessar Zappa
(14,102 posts)whos being used by Bannon to rat fuck the democratic primary.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)GP6971
(31,227 posts)marble falls
(57,404 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)GP6971
(31,227 posts)to vote favorably.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Priceless
GP6971
(31,227 posts)interestingly their vote is still being displayed.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,750 posts)GP6971
(31,227 posts)Haven't run into that before.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)If you're going to troll at least be good at it.
BumRushDaShow
(129,784 posts)and any recs they did still remain as well.
But she came and went and then came again in here and went again. But I guess she'll try to come back again - possibly here.
GP6971
(31,227 posts)Knew about it with the recs, but hadn't seen it before with polls.
Yeah, she'll be back.
BumRushDaShow
(129,784 posts)GP6971
(31,227 posts)I don't usually vote in polls...only the ones that interest me.
ShazzieB
(16,579 posts)She's obsessed with "Bobby" and with antivaxx and other conspiracy theories. Threads about him are catnip to her.
mn9driver
(4,428 posts)If so, they may well be back.
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GP6971
(31,227 posts)mercuryblues
(14,552 posts)for nothing left to lose.
GP6971
(31,227 posts)Welcome to DU...I guess.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,750 posts)Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #63)
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sheshe2
(83,983 posts)Please explain.
mercuryblues
(14,552 posts)sheshe2
(83,983 posts)ShazzieB
(16,579 posts)It would have been interesting to hear the answer to that, but I guess we'll just have to wonder.
sheshe2
(83,983 posts)Torchlight
(3,386 posts)But his recent absurdist positions on science and medicine compel me to dismiss him as just another for-profit grifter, working it from his family name.
DFW
(54,462 posts)He seems to have gone completely off the deep end.
We were schoolmates once upon a time, and used to hang together at recess. Just 6th grade stuff. When JFK was killed, he and Joe II were pulled out of class, and we lost touch until his Air America days. We reconnected then, but not close. I suspect he had a minor say in getting my daughter into Pace Law School, where he taught environmental law, but he never said so outright, and I never asked (either before or after), so my suspicions may yet be unfounded. Although my daughter did well there, she never took environmental law, and thus never had him as a professor. He spoke at graduation, and was quite lucid there, but disappeared right after speaking, so I never spoke to him at the event.
The man with all the conspiracy theories and whacko friends today doesn't in the slightest resemble the guy I once knew. Although I can from the photos that it's still Bobby, alright, the stuff he's saying just doesn't jive with what he used to say, so I'll just say I HAD a favorable opinion of him, and can't figure out what's got into him lately. It sure seems to have scrambled his thought processes, whatever it is. Unless our paths happen to cross again, and I get to hear him one on one, I'll just say he appears to have crossed over into some dark dimension, and it's not the same guy I knew. That's about as close to an opinion that I have for now.
Hekate
(90,919 posts)ShazzieB
(16,579 posts)It's very helpful!
LowerManhattanite
(2,391 posts)creating a place to allow me to better know who to not engage with here on DU. ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
thebigidea
(13,168 posts)roamer65
(36,747 posts)Shame on you.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)mahina
(17,725 posts)Pre-covid.
Not proud, just telling you. I believed him because I had no knowlege of any g wifi but he spoke with such certainty.
Turns out he doesnt know anything but the hustle.
Zeitghost
(3,881 posts)He's got some out there views, he's also one of the most successful environmental litigators in history.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)ShazzieB
(16,579 posts)No matter what he may have accomplished in years past, the last thing this country needs is a president with "out there" views. We need someone sensible and rational, with both feet planted firmly on Terra firma. Someone like Joseph R. Biden.
See reply no. 91 for additional comments.
Zeitghost
(3,881 posts)That I thought he should be President. I'm just able to see all of the good he has done (and it's a lot and not just in the past, he continues to fight for the environment) favorably.
ShazzieB
(16,579 posts)I thought whether he should be potus was what we were talking about. Sorry for any conclusions I may have jumped to.
It's hard for me to really appreciate any good things he may have done, because I'm so aware of the damage he's done with his antivaxx crusading, He doesnt just have out there views; he acts on them in genuinely harmful ways, including actively spreading dangerous misinformation.
This article will give you some idea of what I'm talking about, in case you're not already familiar with his antivaxx crusade: https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-health-pseudoscience/anti-vaccine-propaganda-robert-f-kennedy-jr
Whatever good he's done in the past, he's become a dangerous man, imo.
Zeitghost
(3,881 posts)It has nothing to do with him being President. It asks if we have a favorable view of the man.
ShazzieB
(16,579 posts)No, it doesn't say that in so many words, but I'm far from the only person who took it that way. A large percentage of the replies are related to that.
He was certainly not a popular topic of conversation here before he announced he was running, and it's the main reason he's in the news right now. It didn't even occur to me to interpret the o.p. as being about anything other than our impression of him as a presidential candidate.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)About some things. Like reality. Which he has almost zero espect for.
He has positions that are as dangerous as they are bloody S-T-U-P-I-D. His lunacy can get billions killed--not millions, *billions*--and no good he did in other parts of his life negates that fact.
And I highly doubt that you're so sanguine about the supposedly good side of other evil people. Or are you one of those nuts who thinks that we have to stop talking about all the women Ted Bundy murdered because he worked on a suicide hotline and chased down purse snatchers? Or stop talking about all the people Hitler massacred, because he liked dogs? I mean, if you want to go so deep into charcoal gray as that, go all the way and support Bundy and Hitler!
That's how dumb it is to assert that one must think well of someone for X, when he's done or is doing a bunch of Y that is beyond evil.
Judi Lynn
(160,656 posts)I found it painful to listen to him at least 20 years ago, and wondered then why he had decided to keep struggling to maintain a public identity, when he wasn't capable of operating at that level.
Learning Steve Bannon had cynically pretended to support him should have explained everything to anyone sober. He is being used and is too clearly confused to grasp it.
Anyone who has gone to the trouble to pour over what he has said, what he maintains are his positions, is really in need of a better way to spend his/her time.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)He has to know palling around with Steve Bannon and Roger Stone is an affront to people who revered his dad and uncle. No other Kennedy pals around with them or people like them.
newdayneeded
(1,959 posts)tent that we even have a republican running in our primary.
Skittles
(153,243 posts)WTF
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Caliman73
(11,760 posts)Mostly why, but who would see him as favorable?
The man is a "useful" idiot to the absolute worst people. I understand how trauma can really mess you up. Hunter Biden has been pretty messed up, but he seems to be putting his life back together and he never went right wing crazy like RFK Jr.
Brother Buzz
(36,486 posts)The pest really likes RFK Jr. and Marianne Williamson. Go figure.
One post, one vote, then poof!
I don't understand why DU's software didn't scrub that vote after she was sent packing.
michael_from_mts
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=369560
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,486 posts)I'm not on MIRT, but I became aware of her back before she was first banned. These days, she's like 5 O'Clock Charlie.
Eid Ma Clack Shaw
(490 posts)might even appear reassuringly sane by comparison if, heaven forbid, RFK won the primary. I could see an historic landslide where Trump ended up framed as the safe pair of hands against RFK and his demented campaign manager Kookcinich.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)He's trying to channel his grandfather's antisemitism that his children tried to distance themselves from:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218091071
BlueWaveNeverEnd
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RANDYWILDMAN
(2,678 posts)Your have to be a man of science and your can't just pick the weird science that you like
I like his wife she is funny, but I won't vote for her hubby EVER.
Igel
(35,382 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)A lunatic getting by on the family name.
Aristus
(66,484 posts)I went to hear him speak about the environment about fifteen years ago or so, and was excited to see a member of the vaunted Kennedy family speaking up for progressive causes.
About halfway through his speech, he started railing against vaccines and how they were causing autism all over the world. I remember thinking WTF?
After the speech, he signed autographs from a table in the lobby. He just frowned and zipped signed photos across the table like he was performing an unsavory task that he just wanted to get over with.
I was done with him after that.