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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 09:59 AM Jul 2023

Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Robert F Kennedy Jr.?


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Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Robert F Kennedy Jr.? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 OP
this is going to be THE MOST one sided poll in DU history. CurtEastPoint Jul 2023 #1
I hold him in the opposite regard of how how I held his dad and uncle. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #2
Ditto. And isn't that shameful? How could he ... the mind boggles CurtEastPoint Jul 2023 #3
One could argue he's MAGA adjacent DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #5
Hated what happened to Bobby and JFK, and planned to vote for Bobby, but also have never forgotten allegorical oracle Jul 2023 #50
He wasn't a cardboard saint and he was a very different person at the time of his death. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #55
Very true Hekate Jul 2023 #61
He also distanced himself from Cohn's excesses. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #65
The Kennedy's were STAUNCH anti-communists Caliman73 Jul 2023 #107
Yeah Dorian Gray Jul 2023 #74
as if anyone here is going to vote favourable, lolol (other than a joke) Celerity Jul 2023 #4
Somebody grew another foot so they could do just that. Maru Kitteh Jul 2023 #70
Well its like this.... Historic NY Jul 2023 #6
I think he's deeply traumatized because of the assassinations in his family. Judi Lynn Jul 2023 #7
But why would he enter politics instead of pursuing spooky3 Jul 2023 #8
I believe he feels his family expects it of him, as they did his father, and JFK. Judi Lynn Jul 2023 #12
I think that is a kind interpretation. Nt spooky3 Jul 2023 #13
His family opposes his candidacy. The only Kennedy supporting it is his wife. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #15
Post removed Post removed Jul 2023 #29
I'm glad his family loves him. Family is family* DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #32
I guess you know nothing about him? womanofthehills Jul 2023 #37
My clock was right twice yesterday. TrotskyistTidings Jul 2023 #47
That only proves one thing. ShazzieB Jul 2023 #91
You forgot to add you agree on anti vax. MerryBlooms Jul 2023 #95
If he felt that way perhaps it would be best to stay out of the political arena. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #9
Wow. That's farther out than his ideas. NoRethugFriends Jul 2023 #11
Even if that were true, it is absolutely no excuse for the hatred he pushed toward Dr. Fauci, and JohnSJ Jul 2023 #19
He opposes aid to the Ukraine. He mused that tap water makes you trans. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #20
yes JohnSJ Jul 2023 #28
He said he is anti all war like his uncle Pres Kennedy womanofthehills Jul 2023 #31
He says a lot of things. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #34
If he's so "anti all war" he should have told Putin Cha Jul 2023 #106
I think it is related to that but simpler genxlib Jul 2023 #21
That beggars the question. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #23
He has researched his Uncle's & father's deaths big time womanofthehills Jul 2023 #33
John John and Caroline went through the same thing. sheshe2 Jul 2023 #64
He's got a huge number of siblings, too. ShazzieB Jul 2023 #94
No JI7 Jul 2023 #26
Maybe, but more than a decade of drug use probably cooked his brain. GoCubsGo Jul 2023 #27
He said he hasn't done heroin since he was 29 womanofthehills Jul 2023 #35
That doesn't mean there was no permanent damage done. GoCubsGo Jul 2023 #42
Is this a trick question? we can do it Jul 2023 #10
The so called No Labels group that has support from the likes of Joe Lieberman and Joe Machin CentralMass Jul 2023 #14
The guy is such a fool he doesn't realize he's a fool. TheBlackAdder Jul 2023 #16
Nut is more appropriate. He's obviously a bright guy. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #17
Maybe not - yesterday he & Dennis Kucinivh ( his campaign manager) womanofthehills Jul 2023 #30
When I had COVID 2 1/2 years ago... greatauntoftriplets Jul 2023 #18
Unfavorable is too kind genxlib Jul 2023 #22
Post removed Post removed Jul 2023 #73
You obviously took a wrong turn. GP6971 Jul 2023 #75
Sorry I missed it genxlib Jul 2023 #79
I have no doubts she'll be back. n/t GP6971 Jul 2023 #81
I just heard him interviewed on New Yorker podcast Basic LA Jul 2023 #24
He has become a Useful...um...well... LowerManhattanite Jul 2023 #59
I assume this is another "let's all agree that we agree" polls? brooklynite Jul 2023 #25
Extremely unfavorable. Initech Jul 2023 #36
Nuttier than squirrel shit! nt albacore Jul 2023 #38
KINO (Kennedy In Name Only) LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #39
Very unfavorable but evidently Bill Maher thinks he great. Quixote1818 Jul 2023 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2023 #41
Welcome to DU. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #43
He's an antivax nutcase Elessar Zappa Jul 2023 #44
Our friend just joined to vote and to let us know what high esteem he holds him in. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #46
They won't be hear long. n/t GP6971 Jul 2023 #49
Or heard long. marble falls Jul 2023 #53
A post requirement to vote might be helpful. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #56
They're the only one GP6971 Jul 2023 #57
And he evidently joined today just to vote. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #58
They've been banned, but GP6971 Jul 2023 #68
I saw that this banned poster's vote is still being displayed LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #71
Must be a glitch. GP6971 Jul 2023 #72
What satisfaction is to be derived? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #76
I've seen banned users' names still showing up in polls BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #83
Could very will be. GP6971 Jul 2023 #84
There were 2 banned who posted in a Jeffrey Epstein poll BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #85
Thanks! GP6971 Jul 2023 #86
Yes, she will be. ShazzieB Jul 2023 #92
Signs point to this one being one of our repeat customers. mn9driver Jul 2023 #80
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2023 #114
Hello. Welcome to DU!! GP6971 Jul 2023 #115
Freedoms just another word mercuryblues Jul 2023 #116
Really??? A good person he's not!! GP6971 Jul 2023 #48
RFK Jr's family is not happy LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #63
Post removed Post removed Jul 2023 #90
How so? sheshe2 Jul 2023 #66
I think that was our 1 hit wonder mercuryblues Jul 2023 #67
Oopsie! sheshe2 Jul 2023 #69
Excellent question! ShazzieB Jul 2023 #77
We can on imagine. sheshe2 Jul 2023 #78
I know nothing about the guy's personal life Torchlight Jul 2023 #45
I don't really have an opinion of him any more. DFW Jul 2023 #51
That's kind of my take, minus any personal connection. nt Hekate Jul 2023 #52
Thanks for sharing this perspective. ShazzieB Jul 2023 #98
I do thank the OP for this poll for if nothing else.. LowerManhattanite Jul 2023 #54
You might as well make a poll about genital herpes thebigidea Jul 2023 #60
Who voted favorable? roamer65 Jul 2023 #62
LMFAO DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #112
Shyster! Hustler. And I have to confess I bought his line on 5g wifi on hurricane tracking way mahina Jul 2023 #82
Life isn't black and white Zeitghost Jul 2023 #87
I rather be shot in the face than pal around with Steve Bannon and Roger Stone. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #88
That's neither here nor there, imo. ShazzieB Jul 2023 #97
I'm not sure where you got the idea Zeitghost Jul 2023 #99
Well, the thread is about him running for president, so I was tying my response to that. ShazzieB Jul 2023 #100
You might want to re-read the OP Zeitghost Jul 2023 #101
I assumed that the o.p. was posted in reference to his running for potus. ShazzieB Jul 2023 #102
Yeah, it is black and white ExWhoDoesntCare Jul 2023 #113
It comes as a surprise more people weren't aware he was deeply troubled many, many years ago. Judi Lynn Jul 2023 #89
He has agency. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #104
the democratic party has such an open newdayneeded Jul 2023 #93
HOW could you have a favorable opinion of that guy Skittles Jul 2023 #96
Beats me DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #125
I'd like to know the 3 votes for "Favorable" and why? Caliman73 Jul 2023 #103
One of those three is a repeatedly banned troll Brother Buzz Jul 2023 #105
How can you guys be so sure it's the same person? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #108
You can observe a lot by just watching. Brother Buzz Jul 2023 #111
He's so ridiculously out there that Trump Eid Ma Clack Shaw Jul 2023 #109
He's DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #121
very unfavorable..he is insane. BlueWaveNeverEnd Jul 2023 #110
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2023 #119
He lost me a long time ago re Vaccines Autism False RANDYWILDMAN Jul 2023 #117
Ewww. T'is all. n/t Igel Jul 2023 #118
RFK Jr. repeatedly suggested that chemicals in water are impacting sexuality of childr DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #120
He's a Legacy BlueIdaho Jul 2023 #122
Unfavorable. Aristus Jul 2023 #123
In the name of transparency it would behoove him to run in the right primary. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2023 #124

allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
50. Hated what happened to Bobby and JFK, and planned to vote for Bobby, but also have never forgotten
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 06:59 PM
Jul 2023

his participation in the McCarthy hearings, sitting alongside Roy Cohn. Like to think he later regretted aiding and abetting those dark times. Robert Jr. is an odd, disappointing person, but every family seems to have one of those.

Caliman73

(11,760 posts)
107. The Kennedy's were STAUNCH anti-communists
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 04:35 PM
Jul 2023

As were many at the time. They likely, similar to many politicians at the time, allowed themselves to be swept up in the fervor. There is room in the Party for people who have acted rashly in fervor of the time, but changed direction or softened with time. There is less room for people who continue to promote policies and ideas that have been debunked over and over again. Even less so, for people who ally themselves with people who would see Liberalism and the Democratic party criminalized and destroyed.

RFK Sr. did neither of the latter two and RFK Jr continues to do both to this day.

Judi Lynn

(160,656 posts)
7. I think he's deeply traumatized because of the assassinations in his family.
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 10:11 AM
Jul 2023

I think he has grown up terrified he will be gunned down, too. He's probably trying his best not to offend the criminally insane right-wing, and not speaking from the heart at all.

spooky3

(34,509 posts)
8. But why would he enter politics instead of pursuing
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 10:14 AM
Jul 2023

A profession where he would be unlikely to be targeted?

Judi Lynn

(160,656 posts)
12. I believe he feels his family expects it of him, as they did his father, and JFK.
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 10:32 AM
Jul 2023

He's going through the motions, but clearly unlikely to be assassinated, as progressives don't gun down people they dislike or resent. That's a reactionary, ignorant fool's profile.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
15. His family opposes his candidacy. The only Kennedy supporting it is his wife.
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 10:40 AM
Jul 2023

Is there a yearning in our nation for a Democrat who wants to end our aid to Ukraine, is adamantly anti-vaccination, believes 5G causes cancer, and believes tap water is making men effeminate?

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #15)

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
32. I'm glad his family loves him. Family is family*
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 01:27 PM
Jul 2023

Does atrazine make you trans?

Atrazine is a commonly used herbicide in the U.S. The Environmental Protection Agency regulates how much is allowed in drinking water and evaluates potential ecological and human health risks.

No scientific studies in humans have linked atrazine exposure to gender dysphoria. It has been linked, in some studies, to birth defects and other reproductive health problems.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s claim appears to be based on a 2010 University of California, Berkeley study that found that when male frogs were exposed to atrazine, some lost fertility and developed ovaries. Differences in human and frog biology mean these findings do not unilaterally extend to humans.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/jun/28/robert-f-kennedy-jr/no-evidence-atrazine-in-the-water-supply-is-causin/

His wife and children support his candidacy. Can he point to a Kennedy other than his wife and children who supports his candidacy?

Does 5G cause cancer?


No there is no good evidence that the 5G mobile network increases cancer risk. 5G networks use higher frequency waves than 4G or older mobile networks, but they still don't have enough energy to damage DNA to cause cancer.


https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/cancer-myths/do-mobile-phones-cause-

*His wife and children support his candidacy. Can he point to a Kennedy other than his wife and children who supports his candidacy? I should have been more precise.



womanofthehills

(8,795 posts)
37. I guess you know nothing about him?
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 02:46 PM
Jul 2023

Pursing a career?????

He has been one of the top US environmental lawyers for 35 yrs - took over 500 polluters of our rivers, land and air to court esp representing poor and indigenous communities in US & South American. He was even jailed in SA for his activism.

He & his team won the first big case against Bayer/Monsanto - the beginning of the thousands of glyphosate causing cancer cases. He won $290 million for Lee Johnson a groundskeeper. Now Bayer has put out $10 billion to settle thousands of cases of Hodgkin’s lymphoma.

He currency works for the largest law firm in the US and is now representing over 1000 people who became sick in Columbiana County, Ohio - people whose lives were changed for the worse after the East Palestine train derailment where the RR ignited the toxic chemicals. He is often in East Palestine- having coffee with the locals residents. I



Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wins historic $290 million case against giant Monsanto and Roundup weed-killer
Environmental lawyer, the son of the late U.S. Senator Robert F. Kennedy and nephew President John F. Kennedy, and his team, have won a historic case claiming the product likely caused the cancer of their client. https://www.irishcentral.com/news/robert-f-kennedy-case-monsanto-roundup-weed-killer

 
47. My clock was right twice yesterday.
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 06:55 PM
Jul 2023

It's still a shitty clock thats 2 hours behind and makes screeching noises every about 30 seconds give or take an hour.

ShazzieB

(16,579 posts)
91. That only proves one thing.
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 01:56 AM
Jul 2023

Which is that the same person can be both a skilled environmental lawyer and an antivaxx crackpot. In other words, RFK Jr. is just an another specimen for the "humans are complex, flawed, and often deeply contradictory creatures" exhibition.

It sure as hell doesn't prove that he should hold public office, much less be potus.

JohnSJ

(92,482 posts)
19. Even if that were true, it is absolutely no excuse for the hatred he pushed toward Dr. Fauci, and
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 11:38 AM
Jul 2023

Last edited Sun Jul 9, 2023, 12:45 PM - Edit history (1)

his anti-vaccine crusade. RFK jr is NOT a nice person, and I have nothing but contempt for him.

"Anti-vaccine activist Robert F. Kennedy Jr. made “deeply offensive” comments when he suggested things are worse for people today than they were for Anne Frank, the teenager who died in a Nazi concentration camp after hiding with her family in a secret annex in an Amsterdam house for two years, the Anti-Defamation League and U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum said Monday.

“Making reckless comparisons to the Holocaust, the murder of six million Jews, for a political agenda is outrageous and deeply offensive. Those who carelessly invoke Anne Frank, the star badge, and the Nuremberg Trials exploit history and the consequences of hate,” the museum said Monday in a statement posted to Twitter."

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/24/robert-kennedy-holocaust-vaccines-00001548

womanofthehills

(8,795 posts)
31. He said he is anti all war like his uncle Pres Kennedy
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 01:27 PM
Jul 2023

Said Pres Kennedy & the CIA hated each other as the CIA constantly wanted his uncle to send troops to Laos, Viet Nam and Cuba.

He said his uncle told his advisers he wished he could abolish the CIA.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
34. He says a lot of things.
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 01:40 PM
Jul 2023

I will leave it up to others to divine if President John Kennedy who said, "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty" would throw Ukraine under the bus?

Here who is says informs his opinion on Ukraine:



Well, foreign policy. Domestic policy.

Well, if I want to know about what’s happening in Ukraine, I might read Doug Macgregor’s site, or a number of other just alternative sites.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-alternative-facts-of-robert-f-kennedy-jr



Macgregor has appeared as a regular guest on Fox News, with at least 60 Fox weekday appearances from August 2017 to early 2022, including 48 on Tucker Carlson’s show.[15] Carlson regularly praises Macgregor, describing him as “our first choice for foreign policy analysis” and “one of the people we trust to give us real information". According to Media Matters for America, it was this which got Macgregor on the radar of President Donald Trump.[15] In May 2019, on the Carlson show, Macgregor urged Trump to replace senior national security officials, describing them as “part of this bipartisan globalist elite”.[15]


Macgregor opposes diversity or affirmative action programmes in the military, including women serving in combat. In a 2021 interview, while serving on the West Point board, he said:

What we call diversity – in the extreme. In other words, affirmative action programs for every conceivable category of humanity that the left wants to come up with, ” said Macgregor. “Whether it’s someone who is a gender neutral or homosexual or whatever else, the left loves to put us into categories and push this. And the people that went along with it and said, ‘sure, let’s put women into the combat forces. Let’s have women everywhere.’ Let’s do whatever we want to do. We’re going to create this brave new world where everyone is the same. There are no differences, nothing matters. So I think that’s where we are.[63]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor


Cha

(297,878 posts)
106. If he's so "anti all war" he should have told Putin
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 03:27 PM
Jul 2023

from the very start to GET THE HELL OUT OF Ukraine! And Continue to Tell him!

Zelenski and the Ukrainian People aren't Gong to LIE DOWN and Let Russia Take Their Democratic Country.

I don't buy that "No aide to Ukraine" CRAP he's selling.

Glory to Ukraine! 💙

genxlib

(5,546 posts)
21. I think it is related to that but simpler
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 12:11 PM
Jul 2023

He seems to believe that the Government had a hand in his Fathers death and it has led him to be a conspiracy theorist on all things that involve trust in Government.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
23. That beggars the question.
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 12:17 PM
Jul 2023

The Kennedy clan is huge, Why didn't it affect other members of it similarly? You don't see them palling around with Steve Bannon and Roger Stone and failing to criticize Donald Trump and Alex Jones.

womanofthehills

(8,795 posts)
33. He has researched his Uncle's & father's deaths big time
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 01:39 PM
Jul 2023

He talks about what bullets came from what guns and matches them up.

He believes CIA murdered his Uncle for sure & probably his father too. Why won’t the gov release the Kennedy death info?

Pres Kennedy let it be known to certain advisors that he despised the CIA and wanted it disbanded because the CIA was pressuring him to go to war in Cuba, Laos, and send more troops to Viet Nam. Pres Kennedy was anti war and spoke against the military industrial complex.

sheshe2

(83,983 posts)
64. John John and Caroline went through the same thing.
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 08:07 PM
Jul 2023

Their own mother was in the car sitting right next to him as the bullet went through her husband's head. She had to have been spattered with his blood. There were rumors of government involvement, yet they didn't go to the dark side.

There are no excuses for why he became a vicious anti-vaxer. Or why he became buddies with Stone, Bannon and the GOP.

ShazzieB

(16,579 posts)
94. He's got a huge number of siblings, too.
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 02:21 AM
Jul 2023

Non-crazy ones,, I mean. There's got to to be more to why he is the way he is than just the Kennedy "legacy."

I can definitely believe he was traumatized by the assassinations, but if he felt a strong family obligation to go into politics because of it, why wait till he's nearly 70 to run for anything?

That's right, he was born on January 17, 1954, so he'll be 70 early next year. If he really felt politics was his calling, surely he wouldn't have waited this long.

GoCubsGo

(32,099 posts)
27. Maybe, but more than a decade of drug use probably cooked his brain.
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 12:43 PM
Jul 2023

Which is why you don't see his siblings, who didn't have that kind of issue, behaving like lunatics. Granted, all the family trauma no doubt contributed to his addiction issues.

womanofthehills

(8,795 posts)
35. He said he hasn't done heroin since he was 29
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 01:41 PM
Jul 2023

And has been in AAA for35 yrs and still attends meetings daily/weekly.

GoCubsGo

(32,099 posts)
42. That doesn't mean there was no permanent damage done.
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 06:44 PM
Jul 2023

Much of the period when he was addicted was his late teens and early 20s, which is when the brain is still developing. It's a horrible time to expose the brain to that kind of substance.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
14. The so called No Labels group that has support from the likes of Joe Lieberman and Joe Machin
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 10:39 AM
Jul 2023

are supporting him
At the very least they want to usevRFK Jr as leverage to get a buy in on their agenda..

RFK Jr has some whackjob ideas.

womanofthehills

(8,795 posts)
30. Maybe not - yesterday he & Dennis Kucinivh ( his campaign manager)
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 01:20 PM
Jul 2023

Said their campaign pulled in a million a day for the last 3 days.


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greatauntoftriplets

(175,761 posts)
18. When I had COVID 2 1/2 years ago...
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 11:06 AM
Jul 2023

I was certain that I was going to die because I also have a ouldn't warare autoimmune disease. I ended up with a mild case, lived, and couldn't wait until I had my first vaccine. Haven't had it since, but five vaccine doses later I am not so afraid of it.

So, my opinion of him is unfavorable. His father must be spinning in his grave.

genxlib

(5,546 posts)
22. Unfavorable is too kind
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 12:15 PM
Jul 2023

Vaccines are arguably the number one invention in all of human kind for saving lives.

If he had been in charge over the last 50 years, his policies would have resulted in countless deaths.

Someone with those policies may very well have been the most deadly person in human history.

So "unfavorable" is being kind.

Response to genxlib (Reply #22)

GP6971

(31,227 posts)
75. You obviously took a wrong turn.
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 08:55 PM
Jul 2023

Please make an illegal U Turn.

Enjoy your stay!! Short as it may be.

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
24. I just heard him interviewed on New Yorker podcast
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 12:34 PM
Jul 2023

Where he attacks Biden & Dr. Fauci, but won't criticize Bannon or Trump. He's a disturbed individual and he said he was a heavy heroin addict for 14 years. That's how he knows about injections.

LowerManhattanite

(2,391 posts)
59. He has become a Useful...um...well...
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 07:26 PM
Jul 2023

…unwell person who has come to realize it’s NOT at all un-lucrative to coddle the right while rhetorically throwing rocks and hiding his hand in discussing fairer minded people.

If you make three left turns, you wind up going to the right. 🤷🏾?♂️

Initech

(100,116 posts)
36. Extremely unfavorable.
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 01:43 PM
Jul 2023

The guy is a fucking idiot. You’re not winning points with Democrats by groveling on Newsmax and Steve Bannon’s War Room.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

BumRushDaShow

(129,784 posts)
83. I've seen banned users' names still showing up in polls
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 09:39 PM
Jul 2023

and any recs they did still remain as well.

But she came and went and then came again in here and went again. But I guess she'll try to come back again - possibly here.

GP6971

(31,227 posts)
84. Could very will be.
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 09:45 PM
Jul 2023

Knew about it with the recs, but hadn't seen it before with polls.

Yeah, she'll be back.

ShazzieB

(16,579 posts)
92. Yes, she will be.
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 02:06 AM
Jul 2023

She's obsessed with "Bobby" and with antivaxx and other conspiracy theories. Threads about him are catnip to her.

Response to mn9driver (Reply #80)

Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #63)

ShazzieB

(16,579 posts)
77. Excellent question!
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 09:06 PM
Jul 2023

It would have been interesting to hear the answer to that, but I guess we'll just have to wonder.

Torchlight

(3,386 posts)
45. I know nothing about the guy's personal life
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 06:49 PM
Jul 2023

But his recent absurdist positions on science and medicine compel me to dismiss him as just another for-profit grifter, working it from his family name.

DFW

(54,462 posts)
51. I don't really have an opinion of him any more.
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 07:03 PM
Jul 2023

He seems to have gone completely off the deep end.

We were schoolmates once upon a time, and used to hang together at recess. Just 6th grade stuff. When JFK was killed, he and Joe II were pulled out of class, and we lost touch until his Air America days. We reconnected then, but not close. I suspect he had a minor say in getting my daughter into Pace Law School, where he taught environmental law, but he never said so outright, and I never asked (either before or after), so my suspicions may yet be unfounded. Although my daughter did well there, she never took environmental law, and thus never had him as a professor. He spoke at graduation, and was quite lucid there, but disappeared right after speaking, so I never spoke to him at the event.

The man with all the conspiracy theories and whacko friends today doesn't in the slightest resemble the guy I once knew. Although I can from the photos that it's still Bobby, alright, the stuff he's saying just doesn't jive with what he used to say, so I'll just say I HAD a favorable opinion of him, and can't figure out what's got into him lately. It sure seems to have scrambled his thought processes, whatever it is. Unless our paths happen to cross again, and I get to hear him one on one, I'll just say he appears to have crossed over into some dark dimension, and it's not the same guy I knew. That's about as close to an opinion that I have for now.

LowerManhattanite

(2,391 posts)
54. I do thank the OP for this poll for if nothing else..
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 07:16 PM
Jul 2023

…creating a place to allow me to better know who to not engage with here on DU. ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

mahina

(17,725 posts)
82. Shyster! Hustler. And I have to confess I bought his line on 5g wifi on hurricane tracking way
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 09:23 PM
Jul 2023

Pre-covid.

Not proud, just telling you. I believed him because I had no knowlege of any g wifi but he spoke with such certainty.

Turns out he doesnt know anything but the hustle.

Zeitghost

(3,881 posts)
87. Life isn't black and white
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 10:03 PM
Jul 2023

He's got some out there views, he's also one of the most successful environmental litigators in history.

ShazzieB

(16,579 posts)
97. That's neither here nor there, imo.
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 02:33 AM
Jul 2023

No matter what he may have accomplished in years past, the last thing this country needs is a president with "out there" views. We need someone sensible and rational, with both feet planted firmly on Terra firma. Someone like Joseph R. Biden.

See reply no. 91 for additional comments.

Zeitghost

(3,881 posts)
99. I'm not sure where you got the idea
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 11:45 AM
Jul 2023

That I thought he should be President. I'm just able to see all of the good he has done (and it's a lot and not just in the past, he continues to fight for the environment) favorably.

ShazzieB

(16,579 posts)
100. Well, the thread is about him running for president, so I was tying my response to that.
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 01:26 PM
Jul 2023

I thought whether he should be potus was what we were talking about. Sorry for any conclusions I may have jumped to.

It's hard for me to really appreciate any good things he may have done, because I'm so aware of the damage he's done with his antivaxx crusading, He doesn’t just have out there views; he acts on them in genuinely harmful ways, including actively spreading dangerous misinformation.

This article will give you some idea of what I'm talking about, in case you're not already familiar with his antivaxx crusade: https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-health-pseudoscience/anti-vaccine-propaganda-robert-f-kennedy-jr

Whatever good he's done in the past, he's become a dangerous man, imo.

Zeitghost

(3,881 posts)
101. You might want to re-read the OP
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 01:28 PM
Jul 2023

It has nothing to do with him being President. It asks if we have a favorable view of the man.

ShazzieB

(16,579 posts)
102. I assumed that the o.p. was posted in reference to his running for potus.
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 02:04 PM
Jul 2023

No, it doesn't say that in so many words, but I'm far from the only person who took it that way. A large percentage of the replies are related to that.

He was certainly not a popular topic of conversation here before he announced he was running, and it's the main reason he's in the news right now. It didn't even occur to me to interpret the o.p. as being about anything other than our impression of him as a presidential candidate.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
113. Yeah, it is black and white
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 08:57 PM
Jul 2023

About some things. Like reality. Which he has almost zero espect for.

He has positions that are as dangerous as they are bloody S-T-U-P-I-D. His lunacy can get billions killed--not millions, *billions*--and no good he did in other parts of his life negates that fact.

And I highly doubt that you're so sanguine about the supposedly good side of other evil people. Or are you one of those nuts who thinks that we have to stop talking about all the women Ted Bundy murdered because he worked on a suicide hotline and chased down purse snatchers? Or stop talking about all the people Hitler massacred, because he liked dogs? I mean, if you want to go so deep into charcoal gray as that, go all the way and support Bundy and Hitler!

That's how dumb it is to assert that one must think well of someone for X, when he's done or is doing a bunch of Y that is beyond evil.

Judi Lynn

(160,656 posts)
89. It comes as a surprise more people weren't aware he was deeply troubled many, many years ago.
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 12:54 AM
Jul 2023

I found it painful to listen to him at least 20 years ago, and wondered then why he had decided to keep struggling to maintain a public identity, when he wasn't capable of operating at that level.

Learning Steve Bannon had cynically pretended to support him should have explained everything to anyone sober. He is being used and is too clearly confused to grasp it.

Anyone who has gone to the trouble to pour over what he has said, what he maintains are his positions, is really in need of a better way to spend his/her time.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
104. He has agency.
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 02:13 PM
Jul 2023

He has to know palling around with Steve Bannon and Roger Stone is an affront to people who revered his dad and uncle. No other Kennedy pals around with them or people like them.

Caliman73

(11,760 posts)
103. I'd like to know the 3 votes for "Favorable" and why?
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 02:07 PM
Jul 2023

Mostly why, but who would see him as favorable?

The man is a "useful" idiot to the absolute worst people. I understand how trauma can really mess you up. Hunter Biden has been pretty messed up, but he seems to be putting his life back together and he never went right wing crazy like RFK Jr.

Brother Buzz

(36,486 posts)
105. One of those three is a repeatedly banned troll
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 02:20 PM
Jul 2023

The pest really likes RFK Jr. and Marianne Williamson. Go figure.

One post, one vote, then poof!

I don't understand why DU's software didn't scrub that vote after she was sent packing.

michael_from_mts
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=369560

Brother Buzz

(36,486 posts)
111. You can observe a lot by just watching.
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 08:27 PM
Jul 2023

I'm not on MIRT, but I became aware of her back before she was first banned. These days, she's like 5 O'Clock Charlie.

Eid Ma Clack Shaw

(490 posts)
109. He's so ridiculously out there that Trump
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 08:13 PM
Jul 2023

might even appear reassuringly sane by comparison if, heaven forbid, RFK won the primary. I could see an historic landslide where Trump ended up framed as the safe pair of hands against RFK and his demented campaign manager Kookcinich.

Response to BlueWaveNeverEnd (Reply #110)

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,678 posts)
117. He lost me a long time ago re Vaccines Autism False
Tue Jul 11, 2023, 12:04 AM
Jul 2023

Your have to be a man of science and your can't just pick the weird science that you like

I like his wife she is funny, but I won't vote for her hubby EVER.

Aristus

(66,484 posts)
123. Unfavorable.
Sat Jul 15, 2023, 11:03 AM
Jul 2023

I went to hear him speak about the environment about fifteen years ago or so, and was excited to see a member of the vaunted Kennedy family speaking up for progressive causes.

About halfway through his speech, he started railing against vaccines and how they were causing autism all over the world. I remember thinking “WTF?”

After the speech, he signed autographs from a table in the lobby. He just frowned and zipped signed photos across the table like he was performing an unsavory task that he just wanted to get over with.

I was done with him after that.

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