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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStudy: NAFTA raised pay here and abroad
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/11/12/study-nafta-raised-pay-here-and-abroad/All three countries saw real wages increase as a result of NAFTA. The effects in the United States and Canada, however, are fairly mild. Wages in Canada grew 0.96 percent, while U.S. wages grew 0.17 percent. Thats something, and given that U.S. wages have been stagnant or falling in recent decades, any gains are good news.
But the real success story is Mexico, where wages grew 1.3 percent due to NAFTA. Thats to be expected, since trade with Canada and the U.S. is a more important part of its economy than, say, trade with Canada and Mexico is to the U.S. It also saw the biggest tariff reductions of the three, further amplifying the effects. 1.3 percent isnt a ton, and the productivity gains the country has seen since have disappointed some former advocates. But its not nothing.
Trade is never as simple as people like to make it out to be. It tends to improve wages, but in a disruptive way for a lot of individual workers.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)that makes me think of Paul Krugman's pro-free-trade comments:
http://web.mit.edu/krugman/www/ricardo.htm
doc03
(35,367 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I read recently that real wages in Mexico have fallen from $1.32/hr to $.45/hr. Real wages have fallen in the US, I don't know about Canada.
Free-traders like to tout GDP figures, etc, as "proof" that free-trade works...but closer examination of the figures always show any gains go to the top, and middle and poor classes see declines.
leftstreet
(36,112 posts)What a pile of bullshit
PETRUS
(3,678 posts)From the CEPR:
"For example, the study explicitly assumes that there is only one type of labor. (The bottom of page 26 explains that in the modeling exercise there is "one wage per
country." This simplifying assumption can be useful for some purposes, but if the question is whether NAFTA might have hurt less-educated workers (e.g. autoworkers and steelworkers) to the benefit of more highly educated workers (e.g. doctors and lawyers), it cannot be answered with a model where there is one type of labor.
This upward redistribution is exactly what fans of the Stolper-Samuelson theorem would expect from a trade agreement like NAFTA. Therefore this model can not be used to tell us whether NAFTA would have had one of the negative effects predicted by economic theory.
The other big item missing from this model is the impact of stronger patent and copyright protections. NAFTA required Mexico to develop a U.S. style patent system which substantially raised the cost of prescription drugs and other products in Mexico. This model makes no effort to measure the impact of this increased protectionism on the Mexican economy directly, or indirectly on the other two economies. Insofar as this interference with the free market led to higher prices and increased distortions, it would be expected to slow growth, but obviously that effect cannot be picked up in this model."
Read more: http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/more-nafta-pushing-at-the-post-you-cant-find-wage-inequality-in-a-one-wage-model
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Which is why when Clinton was selling it, he always tied it to increasing educational opportunities for displaced workers. Which Congress then gutted. Sigh.
But, yes, as a rule of thumb, trade increases median wages and increases wage inequality, which is why when it's done successfully it also involves job training and redistribution or "predistribution" of some kind.
PETRUS
(3,678 posts)But increasing inequality is not inevitable. The results depend on how you structure the trade agreements. Actual free trade - unimpeded movement of labor, capital, goods, and services between two countries - is one option. We don't do that, though. NAFTA and similar agreements contain the word "free" to help sell the policy to the public, not because it's an even remotely accurate descriptor. Our trade agreements are specifically designed to benefit particular (and very deep pocketed) interests and redistribute wealth upwards.
marmar
(77,091 posts)The WaPo piece is scant on details of the study, accidentally on purpose.
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)And the Voting Rights Act of 1965 opened the door for massive voter fraud
RepublicansRZombies
(982 posts)n/t
bemildred
(90,061 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,011 posts)But to bring up NAFTA, and use Mexico as an example without mentioning CAFTA, is at best, disingenuous.
Here is a PDF report from the stop CAFTA coalition.
http://www.cispes.org/documents/DR-CAFTA_Effects_and_Alternatives.pdf