WH Petition: Respond to un-American, Racist and treasonous calls for State Secession

[BrentWil]

Multiple petitions have been started for states to leave the Union. (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions). Texas has about 50K petitions currently. (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-texas-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/BmdWCP8B )

I wrote a petition that reaffirms some basic American beliefs in Democracy and the rule of law. I need 150 signatures to have it viewable on the White House's website. I would ask that you follow the link below and help me get these signatures. Thank you.

http://wh.gov/9Lvn

There have been multiple calls for secession from the Union of various States posted on the White House’s “We the People” website. We petition that the White house respond forcefully to these requests and reaffirm basic American values of democracy and rule of law. This country fought a bloody and costly war over the question of secession and calls for secession should be answered by reaffirming our basic belief in the system of democracy and law we inherited from our forefathers. Calls to undermine this country because of a lawful and democratic election should be denounced by all Americans of any political party or ideology. This is, and should always remain, “one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”

[BrentWil]

1. Had a mis-spelling in the first petition

I had a misspelling in the first petition. I posted another one really quick. I don't think anyone signed yet, but if you did please sign this one again.

[Mielikki]

2. ''Patriot'', my ass.

Funny how the same people who swear they're patriots, cloak themselves in the American flag and scream ''USA USA USA'' at any criticism are the same ones who want to secede. Which is literally THE most un-American thing you can do.

(On a side note, it's friggin' awesome when these guys get upset and threaten to move to Canada. A country that has gay marriage, a form of universal healthcare, gun control etc. - pretty much everything they hate...)

[BrentWil]

3. It is rather sad.

and funny. However, it still should be condemned by all

[stopbush]

4. Remove the "under god" language and I'll sign.

[BrentWil]

5. Would have to redo it...

And I already have one signature!!!

[nc4bo]

12. My opinion..

if you're going to do this, might as well do it right and take some of the advice of your fellow DUers.

Those that signed will come back and re-sign - just correct it/make your changes now.

JMHO

Btw, I'm #3.

[BrentWil]

17. I think you are right, in a way..

But I like the wording. It re-enforces that secession is treason by the use of the pledge of allegiance.

Plus I have posted the link at various other places on the web.

I did try to get consensus on wording on another thread. But if I knew that this would be an objection to signing it, I would have reworded or thought of using something else besides the pledge of allegiance.

[RainDog]

28. "Under God" was added in the 1950s

in response to the red scare from Republicans.

Many people find it offensive.

[BrentWil]

37. That is true. NT

[HiPointDem]

6. kr. traitors.

[ohheckyeah]

7. I don't think the White House needs to respond to this

stupidity. Nothing will ever come of it .....it's just a bunch of silly yahoos that the President doesn't need to acknowledge.

He'd have gone crazy if he had addressed ever action of stupidity by the redneck crowd.

[BrentWil]

9. Actually...

They respond to any petition that gets more then 25,000 signitures

[ohheckyeah]

11. Okay - I personally don't think they should.

Just my opinion.

[Blue4Texas]

27. A nice courtesy letter from WH staffers

With a copy filed in archives

[Spider Jerusalem]

8. I really truly wish...

that people would stop bandying about the completely stupid phrase "un-American". The whole idea that "Americanism" involves adhering to whatever set of beliefs and values the speaker happens to be in favour of, and that there's some quasi-religious moral aspect to "Americanism", is frankly really fucking creepy nationalism of a sort that no other country really engages in. I don't think you can call the idea of secession "un-American", anyway; what was that whole war of independence about again? Oh right...seceding from Britain. And you know, if a majority of the population in any state vote to secede from the Union? Let them go; that's democracy (and also self-determination, which is a recognised right under international law). If you think that the people of a state that's voted to secede should be compelled by force of arms to remain in the Union then you don't actually believe in democracy, sorry. Not that a majority of Texans, or Louisianans, or South Carolinians, or whoever, would vote to secede anyway; these petitions are pissed-off racists who can't believe Obama got re-elected having a massive and public tantrum about it, and don't really deserve any notice.

[BrentWil]

18. Democracy doesn't work..

If you get to leave because you lost an election. It becomes an unworkable system.

[ErikJ]

10. I pray the South secedes.

Then we could easily pass every Progressive idea needed.

[cordelia]

29. I pray the Green Party disappears and its wasted votes no longer

subtract from viable Democratic candidates.

[meow2u3]

31. Be careful what you pray for

The South seceded in the 19th century and then proceded to provoke the Civil War. If they did it then, they may well attack the US now. They won't rest until we're destroyed--and they call US the enemy?!

[JoeyT]

38. So you're pro-secession as well?

That's good to know.

[jillan]

13. Done.

[BrentWil]

14. Thanks!

Just need to get it above 150 signitures

[Care Acutely]

15. Done.

[BrentWil]

16. Thanks!

141 to go

[BrentWil]

19. Not to bad for just posting this...

12 signatures. If you have the time, please post this on Facebook, twitter, etc.

[BrentWil]

20. 15 signed!!! NT

[coalition_unwilling]

21. #17 here - I keep thinking of Lincoln's peroration in

"The Gettysburg Address":

that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

****************************

Thanks for doing this. Never would have occurred to me.

[BrentWil]

22. Thanks. Up to 19

Post on Facebook if you can. Breaking 150 is the goal. That makes it viewable on the website.

[coalition_unwilling]

32. Done on FB also. I'm not much of a Social Network-er type. Now

"Socialist networker" maybe

[kentauros]

23. I just signed it!

It's too bad we can't get the Anti-South DUers (including those in this thread) to sign, too

[BrentWil]

25. Thanks!

[BrentWil]

24. An interesting dairy on this at Daily Kos..

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/12/1160873/-Sad-America-loving-conservatives-already-demanding-secession

[Historic NY]

26. And to think they all wanted their country back..!!!

[BrentWil]

30. Thanks for signing!

[SpartanDem]

33. Done

[BrentWil]

34. Thanks !! NT

[CheapShotArtist]

35. These people who call themselves patriots

happen to be the same ones who are the quickest to want to secede. They don't consider anybody other than fellow wingnuts to be patriots, which is why they were so quiet when Shrub was president and now they're raising Hell while Obama is in the WH.

[BrentWil]

39. The do wrap themselves in the flag NT

[Dems50State]

36. Where's Rick Perry? This is his golden chance

He can be the President of Tea Land. First rule of Tea land is Up is Down and Down is Up. The Sky is Green and the grass is blue. Always stay in a Bubble never step outside the bubble. If you see a outsider in our lands self deport them. Oh and George W Bush is Jesus.

[BrentWil]

40. Anyone that can put this on Facebook or twit it?

WOuld be very helpful. 150 is the magic number.

[BrentWil]

41. 1/5th to 150 NT