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Little Caesars - Democrat Owned, $5 Pizzas, Full & PT Worker Health Insurance (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Nov 2012 OP
Umm, the Illitches are Democrats. marmar Nov 2012 #1
Damn Skippy nt MrScorpio Nov 2012 #5
Multiple memes and websites said they were Republicans. TheBlackAdder Nov 2012 #7
It's not too late to change your subject line. marmar Nov 2012 #14
Done, thanks TheBlackAdder Nov 2012 #18
He looks Republican here. valerief Nov 2012 #13
Looks like he give to both... progressoid Nov 2012 #31
Papa John's can't figure it out... barnabas63 Nov 2012 #2
Any business that can't compete should go out of business, e.g. General Motors. nt jody Nov 2012 #4
apples and oranges barnabas63 Nov 2012 #9
Is that the pissing them off by bitching about 13 cents more for a pizza... jmowreader Nov 2012 #16
If a business can't compete for whatever reason it should close. Would you have it any other way? nt jody Nov 2012 #20
Just think, Bain got millions in government aid in their first decade. TheBlackAdder Nov 2012 #30
In some cases, the companies can keep the state tax paid by their employees KansDem Nov 2012 #76
GM involved millions of workers, and would have done much more harm to not help them out. Same with still_one Nov 2012 #21
Agree on one point, people who mismanaged a business into bankruptcy should not be left in charge jody Nov 2012 #29
I stand by my disagreement regarding GM, and the banks. The harm would be worse than the cure. still_one Nov 2012 #32
I’m not sure we disagree. Govt. can’t exist without taxes and taxes can’t exist without profits on jody Nov 2012 #33
What?!? The First Challenge for a Free Society... mcranor Nov 2012 #82
Have a blissful evening and goodbye. nt jody Nov 2012 #83
Sorry, but I've got to agree with him/her. A business's profits........ socialist_n_TN Nov 2012 #86
Apparently you disagree with Obama who ran on a platform of using government to recover our economy jody Nov 2012 #90
I disagree with Obama on a LOT of things socialist_n_TN Nov 2012 #91
LOL have a peaceful evening. nt jody Nov 2012 #92
TJ was a great writer and orator, but a mediocre president. n/t TheBlackAdder Nov 2012 #28
Quite a few thousands of us at the UAW think you have no idea what you are talking about, other than DainBramaged Nov 2012 #51
Spewing right wing talking points on numerous, (uh okay, EVERY issue) Moses2SandyKoufax Nov 2012 #56
Have a blissful evening. nt jody Nov 2012 #60
Accurate and well stated with facts rather than spewing from the gut. emsimon33 Nov 2012 #89
True That. JeffHead Nov 2012 #8
Mike Ilitch ellie Nov 2012 #3
He also has the Key to the City of Detroit nt MrScorpio Nov 2012 #12
Love their pizzas JB126 Nov 2012 #6
The Illitches donate heavily to Dems LTR Nov 2012 #10
I was wondering where you get pizza these days. Maplegrass Nov 2012 #11
If you have a Round Table Pizza nearby, they are employee-owned. nt progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #47
Yes I'll take Round Table Pizza over Papa John's any day of the week. nightscanner59 Nov 2012 #58
Alas, they're only found in the West KamaAina Nov 2012 #85
They're Dems, their daughter hosted a big money fundaraiser SpartanDem Nov 2012 #15
THis is Great News, SpartanDem! People yesterday were wondering about Cha Nov 2012 #42
OK going to find a Little Caesars to order from for my kids birthday. I have to do some searching.. kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #17
They're actually pretty good for a commercial pizza place....... socialist_n_TN Nov 2012 #88
I prefer Little Caesars AlGoreRhythms Nov 2012 #19
at the link it also shows papa johns having benefits, did you see that, am I reading this wrong? trailmonkee Nov 2012 #22
I saw that as well. niyad Nov 2012 #25
welcome to DU--I just got the whole blackadder series from the library today to enjoy again. niyad Nov 2012 #23
The kid's cat is named Baldrick! TheBlackAdder Nov 2012 #26
... with a series ending on par w "Newhart". (tho on a depressing note) stlsaxman Nov 2012 #68
I've never had either pizza chain (I order from a local place) but a K&R for Little Ceasars riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #24
too bad the food isn't that good but no worse than papa johns and other chaisn JI7 Nov 2012 #27
Agreed. We usually get Costco but think I will throw in some of these once in a while now. nt Live and Learn Nov 2012 #48
I love Costco's pizza.. txdemsftw Nov 2012 #73
Wish there was one near me boxman Nov 2012 #34
I don't like their pizza.... But their Crazy Bread is delicious. nt DLine Nov 2012 #35
I like their pizza. The Wielding Truth Nov 2012 #37
Who Knew!? I use to see Little Caesars in mall's along McDonald's .. Cha Nov 2012 #36
Thanks, Cha! TheBlackAdder Nov 2012 #44
I love Little Caesars Liberalynn Nov 2012 #38
if we're just talking how all of these chain pizza places stack up, taste-wise... WooWooWoo Nov 2012 #39
Papa Gino's makes a pretty good pie. Thin, chewy crust, nice blend of cheeses. nt Flatulo Nov 2012 #57
love the Gino's! i wish they had them in NY dionysus Nov 2012 #78
I'd go AlexSatan Nov 2012 #71
How damned wonderful!! fadedrose Nov 2012 #40
Lol.. Cha Nov 2012 #46
I dont eat pizza because my GF doesnt want me to HankyDub Nov 2012 #41
My husband would divorce me if I banned pizza. a la izquierda Nov 2012 #67
Pizza, Pizza... K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2012 #43
Ralys grocery stores are trying to ax HC, 40 hour week and premium pay Left Coast2020 Nov 2012 #45
1 phone number (Papa John's) erased. 1 added (Little Ceasers) on point Nov 2012 #49
I thought that couldn't be done... UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #50
Pizza! Pizza! sarcasmo Nov 2012 #52
Good for them! CakeGrrl Nov 2012 #53
Just ate one! NOM Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #54
I always get a Little Caesar's when I go for take out pizza in my town johnlucas Nov 2012 #55
ok, i'm trying to be calm here... hockeynut57 Nov 2012 #59
If you're in Wisconsin, check out Glass Nickel HuskyOffset Nov 2012 #61
Classic Slice in Bay View is the best pizza ever. MessiahRp Nov 2012 #65
Their pizzas are pretty good for a fast food pizza... and I LOVE that I can run in and it's waiting. jillan Nov 2012 #62
Too bad their pizzas taste like 5$ pizzas. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #63
I will have to try them when I travel. At home, I go local, two shops with good progressive owners. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #64
Too bad Little Caesars pizza sucks ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2012 #66
Almost perfect..... whistler162 Nov 2012 #69
They are Republicans. GreenEyedLefty Nov 2012 #70
It doesn't matter how the pizza tastes or ProSense Nov 2012 #72
Thank you..... a kennedy Nov 2012 #74
I will get one today. Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #75
I used to LOVE Little Caesars Aerows Nov 2012 #77
Pizza Pizza!!! Odin2005 Nov 2012 #79
I worked part-time (25 hours) at a supermarket about 15 years ago and got benefits HockeyMom Nov 2012 #80
I have a Little Caesars a couple of miles from here workinclasszero Nov 2012 #81
I go to Hoboken for my slice. This chain stuff is not so good! nt Walk away Nov 2012 #84
Pizza Pizza! I'm going to Little Caesars this weekend! nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #87
Hate to resurrect a month old thread.... AgainsttheCrown Jan 2013 #93

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
7. Multiple memes and websites said they were Republicans.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:27 PM
Nov 2012
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3rqtaw/

But, after 5 seconds of research (which I should have done), they donated to Obama.

barnabas63

(1,214 posts)
9. apples and oranges
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:28 PM
Nov 2012

GM's failure was caused by gambling bankers. Papa John is sealing his own fate by pissing off consumers.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
16. Is that the pissing them off by bitching about 13 cents more for a pizza...
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:32 PM
Nov 2012

or the pissing them off by making pizzas that are inferior to frozen that is sealing his fate?

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
20. If a business can't compete for whatever reason it should close. Would you have it any other way? nt
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:38 PM
Nov 2012

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
30. Just think, Bain got millions in government aid in their first decade.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:53 PM
Nov 2012

Most businesses get government funding or assistance, tax credits, contracts, etc. to help the company expand or to survive during times of blight. Then, these new companies strong-arm the states, playing one off for another, to pay virtually no state or local taxes.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
76. In some cases, the companies can keep the state tax paid by their employees
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:36 AM
Nov 2012

"Taxed by the Boss"

From April, 2012--

Across the United States more than 2,700 companies are collecting state income taxes from hundreds of thousands of workers – and are keeping the money with the states’ approval, says an eye-opening report published on Thursday.

The report from Good Jobs First, a nonprofit taxpayer watchdog organization funded by Ford, Surdna and other major foundations, identifies 16 states that let companies divert some or all of the state income taxes deducted from workers’ paychecks. None of the states requires notifying the workers, whose withholdings are treated as taxes they paid.

General Electric, Goldman Sachs, Procter & Gamble, Chrysler, Ford, General Motors and AMC Theatres enjoy deals to keep state taxes deducted from their workers’ paychecks, the report shows. Foreign companies also enjoy such arrangements, including Electrolux, Nissan, Toyota and a host of Canadian, Japanese and European banks, Good Jobs First says.

Why do state governments do this? Public records show that large companies often pay little or no state income tax in states where they have large operations, as this column has documented. Some companies get discounts on property, sales and other taxes. So how to provide even more subsidies without writing a check? Simple. Let corporations keep the state income taxes deducted from their workers’ paychecks for up to 25 years.

It was not always this way. Letting companies keep their workers’ state taxes apparently began in Kentucky two decades ago as a way to retain jobs.

http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2012/04/12/taxed-by-the-boss/


still_one

(92,394 posts)
21. GM involved millions of workers, and would have done much more harm to not help them out. Same with
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:42 PM
Nov 2012

The banks and financial implosion. It is a question of not cutting your nose off to spite your face

However, it can be legitimately argued that the people who put a company into that position should not be left in charge

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
29. Agree on one point, people who mismanaged a business into bankruptcy should not be left in charge
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:51 PM
Nov 2012

and I would add not make obscene profits from their mismanagement.

If I as a farmer mismanage my farm into bankruptcy then I lose everything and some better farmer can buy my land and turn it into a profitable enterprise.

IMO that also holds true for multinational corporations.

If GM fails, then let Hyundai, Honda, Mercedes or some other corporate office take over.

We could make all the successful management staff US citizens in five years if they can turn GM around.

That's immigration reform anyone should be able to support.

still_one

(92,394 posts)
32. I stand by my disagreement regarding GM, and the banks. The harm would be worse than the cure.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:59 PM
Nov 2012

I also have a problem with having other countries producing our food.

In Gilroy California, they shipped the farming to China because it could be done cheaper. Food, as energy are a national security issue in my view

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
33. I’m not sure we disagree. Govt. can’t exist without taxes and taxes can’t exist without profits on
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:13 PM
Nov 2012

products and services.

There are two challenges for a free society, first operate businesses for profits, and second spend profits wisely.

The second goal has two parts, invest some part of today’s profits to make businesses profitable in the future and consume the remainder of today’s profits in some fair manner.

IMO government and businesses don’t always make wise decisions.

 

mcranor

(92 posts)
82. What?!? The First Challenge for a Free Society...
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:33 PM
Nov 2012

.....is to operate businesses for profit?!? Seriously? You think that's what it's all about? You have a HUGELY different idea of what society is for than I do. How did you come to that conclusion? (if you don't mind my asking.)

mc

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
86. Sorry, but I've got to agree with him/her. A business's profits........
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:01 PM
Nov 2012

are NOT a function of government. Now, loans and grants to workers to own the means of production, that's closer to government responsibility than profits for businesses is.

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
90. Apparently you disagree with Obama who ran on a platform of using government to recover our economy
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:34 PM
Nov 2012

and reduce unemployment in the private sector.

Whether government can do a better job in meeting those goals than free market forces remains to be shown.

DainBramaged

(39,191 posts)
51. Quite a few thousands of us at the UAW think you have no idea what you are talking about, other than
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:40 AM
Nov 2012

spewing a right wing talking point.


Here's a very simple answer you could have found if you had just realized Google is your friend:

GM declared bankruptcy when they couldn't get loans from the big new york banks. The government lent them money until they could restructure themselves. The big banks who held gm bonds wouldn't agree to refinancing so GM had to file.

The situation now is pretty good. They have refinanced their loans, got rid of Hummer and Saab, closed Pontiac and Saturn. They should emerge from bankruptcy this summer. Many feared that people wouldn't buy cars while gm was in bankruptcy but that hasn't been the case.



http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100221101402AAsmSLf


And furthermore, two of the LOUDEST voices against the GM loans were Bob Corker and Richard Shelby whose states had huge foreign transplant factories that would have benefited from GM not being "bailed out". In the end, they should have been charged with treason.


Have a nice uninformed life.


By the way, when it comes to GM, you should maybe be talking about something you really know about. It's obvious you know nothing about GM.

Moses2SandyKoufax

(1,290 posts)
56. Spewing right wing talking points on numerous, (uh okay, EVERY issue)
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:54 AM
Nov 2012

seems to be the only thing this particular person ever does.

JeffHead

(1,186 posts)
8. True That.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:27 PM
Nov 2012

I think Porta John's looking for Chick Fil A bounce in revenues. He should STFU if he knows what's good for his crappy pizza business.

LTR

(13,227 posts)
10. The Illitches donate heavily to Dems
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:29 PM
Nov 2012

Including Obama. They also donate occasionally to certain Republicans.

So not all pizza chain CEOs are right-wing douchebags.

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=MI&last=Ilitch&city=&zip=&xst=&next=0

 

Maplegrass

(41 posts)
11. I was wondering where you get pizza these days.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:29 PM
Nov 2012

Dominos and Papa Johns are both regressive, as we know.

I like Little Caesar's anyway - it's good, and ready instantly for $5.

nightscanner59

(802 posts)
58. Yes I'll take Round Table Pizza over Papa John's any day of the week.
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:05 AM
Nov 2012

Anyone know of their political leanings or LGBT friendly status? I checked HRC website but it's not listed.
PJ's pizza dough tastes like cardboard. Round Table's yummy. The Last Honest Pizza.

Cha

(297,655 posts)
42. THis is Great News, SpartanDem! People yesterday were wondering about
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:09 AM
Nov 2012

a Blue Pizza Place..on one of the papa john threads.

Have to go see if I can find it..

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
17. OK going to find a Little Caesars to order from for my kids birthday. I have to do some searching..
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:32 PM
Nov 2012

I hope the pizzas are good...but it really doesn't matter. We don't eat pizza everyday!
Maybe we can start a nation-wide movement to buy from Little Caesars?

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
88. They're actually pretty good for a commercial pizza place.......
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:06 PM
Nov 2012

They recently added in a thin crust option which made me even more of a fan. No delivery though. You've got to go pick it up.

niyad

(113,552 posts)
23. welcome to DU--I just got the whole blackadder series from the library today to enjoy again.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:43 PM
Nov 2012

thanks for the information on little caesar's. don't have one near me, but good to know when I go out --and will certainly pass the word to others.

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
26. The kid's cat is named Baldrick!
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:47 PM
Nov 2012

Thanks.

The Black Adder is perhaps the best comedy series out there.

For folks who don't know, it's main character is played by Rowan Atkinson.

stlsaxman

(9,236 posts)
68. ... with a series ending on par w "Newhart". (tho on a depressing note)
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 07:16 AM
Nov 2012

still, an equal in brilliance.

- "Welcome to DU!!"

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
24. I've never had either pizza chain (I order from a local place) but a K&R for Little Ceasars
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:43 PM
Nov 2012

Great OP. Thanks for this and welcome to DU!

JI7

(89,264 posts)
27. too bad the food isn't that good but no worse than papa johns and other chaisn
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:49 PM
Nov 2012

and at least they are cheap.

Cha

(297,655 posts)
36. Who Knew!? I use to see Little Caesars in mall's along McDonald's ..
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:55 PM
Nov 2012

never thinking they would be a Blue Co!

Thanks TheBlackAdder.. oh, and, Welcome to DU

WooWooWoo

(454 posts)
39. if we're just talking how all of these chain pizza places stack up, taste-wise...
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:00 AM
Nov 2012

to me it's

1. Dominos
2. Little Ceasars
3. Pizza Hut
4. Pappa Johns.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
40. How damned wonderful!!
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:01 AM
Nov 2012

We pick up pizza there frequently when we're doing stuff that keeps me from cooking.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
45. Ralys grocery stores are trying to ax HC, 40 hour week and premium pay
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:13 AM
Nov 2012

Talked to striker today walking to starbucks. Guy said owner is zillion-aire.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
53. Good for them!
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:47 AM
Nov 2012

And they opened one up just down the hill from me. Papa John's who? Between Little Caesar's, Round Table (expensive but very good), and another great local chain whose owner we know personally, never mind the occasional restaurant pizza choices, there's no need to patronize Schlatter.

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
55. I always get a Little Caesar's when I go for take out pizza in my town
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:52 AM
Nov 2012

This info makes me want to support them more.

John Lucas

hockeynut57

(230 posts)
59. ok, i'm trying to be calm here...
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:14 AM
Nov 2012

i know this isn't important to most people...he owns the effin' red wings. probably one of the classist best run franchises in all of sports. and i hate the red wings.

HuskyOffset

(890 posts)
61. If you're in Wisconsin, check out Glass Nickel
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:31 AM
Nov 2012

I'm in Madison and about four blocks from a Glass Nickel Pizza Company location, and let me tell you, very tasty food. Not just pizza, either.

Not sure what their political affiliation is, but you might get a hint from their efforts to be Green

jillan

(39,451 posts)
62. Their pizzas are pretty good for a fast food pizza... and I LOVE that I can run in and it's waiting.
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:36 AM
Nov 2012

Good to know that I can feel good about going there.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
63. Too bad their pizzas taste like 5$ pizzas.
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:38 AM
Nov 2012

We used to have Little Caesars delivered when we had drunkfests and needed a grip o' pizzas for what little money we had left.

I don't think anyone even noticed how they tasted.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
66. Too bad Little Caesars pizza sucks
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 07:10 AM
Nov 2012

Sorry, just because they donate to Democrats doesn't change the fact that they are the worst of the chain pizza places.

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
70. They are Republicans.
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 07:35 AM
Nov 2012

Someone close to me works in their corporate HQ and Mike/Marian are absolutely, positively in the R column.

Edited to add: Denise Ilitch, daughter of Mike and Marian, is a strong Democrat. She held a fundraiser for Obama here, and it was dubbed the "pizza party for the president."

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
72. It doesn't matter how the pizza tastes or
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:19 AM
Nov 2012

who owns the company. The point is that the company offers health care to their full and part-time workers.

It can be done. Anyone who says otherwise is a greedy lying hack. Given the incentives built into the law for small businesses, it would seem that good companies that value workers would do everything to provide health care benefits.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
77. I used to LOVE Little Caesars
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:45 AM
Nov 2012

french bread crust square pizzas. Sadly, I don't have access to one where I live

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
80. I worked part-time (25 hours) at a supermarket about 15 years ago and got benefits
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:08 PM
Nov 2012

Why? UNION shop. Big Supermarket chain in I believe 4 states in the NE, corporate offices in New York. I don't remember the exact name. It was something like United Grocery Workers of America. Yes, they are STILL Union today. They have a sign in their windows saying that are a Union Shop.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
81. I have a Little Caesars a couple of miles from here
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:09 PM
Nov 2012

Also 3 or four papa johns. Little Caesars gonna be getting all my pizza business from now on! God bless the owners for giving a damn about their employees!

AgainsttheCrown

(165 posts)
93. Hate to resurrect a month old thread....
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:19 PM
Jan 2013

But last night I drug my ass out of a warm bed to go get Little Caesar's because they don't deliver. I had a looooong conversation with the manager about a range of political issues. Finally I mentioned why I got of bed for one of their pizzas when Papa John's (my one time employer) tastes better (for a chain) and delivers. I told her that John Rattner's statements really pissed me off because 10 years ago I was kept as a sub 40 hour employee to prevent me from getting benefits and now he's lowering the bar to 30 prevent the company from paying for their employees' healthcare.

She floored me when she said that it's happening with Little Caesar's as well, AND that her hours are being cut to 25 despite the fact that she has insurance through her husbands job (good thing since she's pregnant). She said that the company has regional franchisees like most chains and only provides benefits to the GM and Asst-GM.

Needless to say I was pissed last night and am still pissed. One because I got out of bed, and two because I wanted to believe that there was a chain restaurant that wasn't treating their employees like shit.

I've believed that corporations were amoral for sometime, but this shows intent.

Fuck Little Caesar's...and their delicious crazy bread!

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