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OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:15 PM Nov 2012

Want to push back against selfish CEOs? LIST GOOD ALTERNATIVES

Last edited Tue Nov 13, 2012, 03:44 PM - Edit history (5)

(Edited to change thread title since "positive action" doesn't get any response. )

While I'm all for calling out the many unethical and demoralizing businesses which have led the way in this country for far too long, I'd really like to support and promote GOOD BUSINESSES and ethical business practices. A CEO making billions of dollars choosing to lay off thousands of people, or decrease their hours, because said CEO and other execs don't want to part with their riches is NOT ethical.

With all the talk of boycotting various companies, we need alternatives. Dammit to hell, please help me create a list of them!!! (Sorry, but I'm frustrated because I'm tired of begging for help to do simple things...things we say we want and could help many.)

If you agree with this, can you at least K&R this post? Keeping more positive, action-oriented posts alive is like pulling teeth sometimes. (If you are interested in working on this with me, please join me in this discussion thread at Wishadoo)

Many of us often ask where we can find good businesses to support. While there are separate directories for "Made in the USA" businesses, green businesses, union businesses, etc., a comprehensive directory which lists businesses which are quite simply ethical -- not perfect, but ethical -- on all levels doesn't exist.

After my experience with Glenn Beck and his followers several years ago, I decided to fully embrace Compassion, Cooperation, Community and Integrity in business, and shout those values from the rooftops while putting them into action. Now it's time to gather businesses also ready to align with principles of Compassion, Cooperation, Community and Integrity.

[font color="blue"]So, I've created the space and will gladly highlight and promote such businesses, but need help finding them.

It could be an online entrepreneur focused on doing well while doing good (it could even be your Etsy store!); a small Main Street type of business (like the hugging Pizza Guy in FL and the businesses offering free products and services in the aftermath of Sandy); or even larger businesses who are, for the most part -- even if not perfect -- doing business with integrity.
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There are many tools at this directory which are pretty cool, if I say so myself, including the ability to leave reviews, so we can keep them honest and always moving toward doing better. I see it like Angie's List but it's free to use (and free to list), and the foundation is one of integrity.

Below I've copied and pasted a blog post, which I invite you to share to spread the word. Click the graphic below to see the Directory.



"The whole idea of compassion is based on a keen awareness of the interdependence of all these living beings, which are all part of one another, and all involved in one another." - Thomas Merton


We're moving into a new era. No longer are selfish, greedy business decisions admired. No longer is "the bottom line," with obscene CEO salaries and profit margins at the expense of workers, communities and our environment viewed as "good business."

Good business practices embrace Community, Compassion, Cooperation and Integrity. Wishadoo! has created a DIRECTORY where such businesses can be found and promoted.

What types of actions or policies do you view as Good Business?

Which companies represent Good Business, in your opinion? (small or large, online or brick and mortar, local or international)

Rather than focus on the high-profile businesses making what many feel are selfish, short-sighted business decisions, let's SUPPORT GOOD BUSINESS.

Please help identify GOOD BUSINESSES, get them listed in the Directory, and help support their efforts!

Wishadoo! will offer regular blog posts to share via social media highlighting GOOD BUSINESSES.



BTW, another post dropped like a lead balloon earlier today. I thought more here would be happy to know that a petition many of you signed was victorious: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021789277


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Want to push back against selfish CEOs? LIST GOOD ALTERNATIVES (Original Post) OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 OP
Great idea! roody Nov 2012 #1
Thank you, Roody... OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #2
kick n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #3
Definitely put Costco on the list democrattotheend Nov 2012 #4
The co-founder and retired CEO of Costco, Jim Sinegal, spoke at the DNC Cha Nov 2012 #8
Thanks Cha and Democrattotheend... OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #10
Thank you, OneGrassRoot! I saw your link in that thread on "boycotting" Cha Nov 2012 #13
Hey, thanks for that link! OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #15
kick after changing thread title. n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #5
Your "directory" link gives me a Page Not Found LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #6
Thanks. It's fixed now. :) OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #7
No, thank YOU! LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #9
Cool! OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #16
K&R! Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #11
And if you really want to put a dent in the Koch Roaches' fortune - quit buying gas. Initech Nov 2012 #12
I don't have a car and haven't had to buy messy gas for a long Cha Nov 2012 #14
Look up derivatives trading. It's basically a giant ponzi scheme. Initech Nov 2012 #19
K&R n/t Melissa G Nov 2012 #17
re:Want to push back against selfish CEOs? LIST ALTERNATIVE ( allan01 Nov 2012 #18
K+R elleng Nov 2012 #20
K&R! chalky Nov 2012 #21
When in doubt, shop small local businesses. Sirveri Nov 2012 #22
Absolutely. Always the best alternative, imho. :) n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #23
Wonderful idea Sienna86 Nov 2012 #24
Great idea, thanks. 99Forever Nov 2012 #25
lunchtime kick n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #26
A formula for CEO compensation could be developed. randome Nov 2012 #27
I've always been in favor of that. OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #28
Philosophically, I would be opposed. But Reality shows that compensation is out of control. randome Nov 2012 #29
Kicking! Digit Nov 2012 #30
Kick Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #31
Great idea. mmonk Nov 2012 #32
Cool! This is what I was looking for! hogwyld Nov 2012 #33

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
4. Definitely put Costco on the list
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:30 PM
Nov 2012

They are partially unionized and they tend to follow the union payscale even at their non-union stores. They give a lot of money to Democrats, and I think the CEO only makes about $500,000 (which is not exactly peanuts, but compared to most CEO's it is very reasonable). They are known for being aggressive with suppliers, like Walmart, but overall I think they are a very good company and I would definitely join if I didn't live in Manhattan (small apartment, no car).

Cha

(297,626 posts)
8. The co-founder and retired CEO of Costco, Jim Sinegal, spoke at the DNC
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:48 PM
Nov 2012

and supports the Obama Business Model.

I belong to Costco here on Kaua'i and I save Money buying by the case of certain things for just one person.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
10. Thanks Cha and Democrattotheend...
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:51 PM
Nov 2012

This is great to know.

I would LOVE to have Costco sponsor/advertise on Wishadoo! Just one huge sponsor like that, and soooooo much good could be done and I could breathe. I prefer not to advertise as most sites do, as I find it very distracting, even if it can sustain the site.

I'd rather get a few key partners and move forward that way.

Thanks again!



Cha

(297,626 posts)
13. Thank you, OneGrassRoot! I saw your link in that thread on "boycotting"
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:01 PM
Nov 2012

papa johns, applebees, chick-fillet.

Here's a link I saw on DU a little while ago. SHOP YOUR POLITICS..http://shopyourpolitics.com/

I always thought Lowes was Blue.. Wrong. And, Amazon was Red..Wrong.

There use to be a site called BuyBlue but it closed its doors. I really liked it while it was around..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BuyBlue.org

Thanks for your WORK on Wishadoo!

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
6. Your "directory" link gives me a Page Not Found
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:42 PM
Nov 2012

I have a few entries to put in for the Salt Lake area.

We need to have a Take Your Republican Friends To Dinner day. Invite them over for local pizza, or out for some local seafood.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
7. Thanks. It's fixed now. :)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:45 PM
Nov 2012

I like your idea for a special TYRFTD Day.

Thanks again! You're welcome to join Wishadoo and create the listings, or send me the info.



OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
16. Cool!
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:08 PM
Nov 2012

And thanks. I absolutely suck with names; FB "real" names and screen names did me in and I just gave up.



Initech

(100,101 posts)
12. And if you really want to put a dent in the Koch Roaches' fortune - quit buying gas.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:56 PM
Nov 2012

Really. Just buying a different roll of toilet paper is like deleting text files to make room on a terabyte hard drive. Take public transportation when you can. Use natural gas and solar panels in the winter. If you're buying a new car get a hybrid or alternative fuel vehicle. That will put a massive dent in their fortune.

Cha

(297,626 posts)
14. I don't have a car and haven't had to buy messy gas for a long
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:03 PM
Nov 2012

time.. didn't know I was affecting kochs in anyway. I realize most peeps can't do without cars but I'm glad I can.

Initech

(100,101 posts)
19. Look up derivatives trading. It's basically a giant ponzi scheme.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:40 PM
Nov 2012

It's how the Koch Roaches were able to double and triple their fortunes. It's legalized theft.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
18. re:Want to push back against selfish CEOs? LIST ALTERNATIVE (
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:20 PM
Nov 2012

i have been for years boycotting the follwing
1: dennys after first hand treatment of my family as a child ( i will never ever step into dennys other than being invited)
2: herseys: since hersheys closed up shop in oakdale ca and hersey pa ,and went to mexico
3: clear channel radio. loved the old coast to coast am(ufos big feet , etc ) that had art bell. now its just a political hack..
4: cconservative news network and faux noize)
valero gas stations ( a haliburton wholy owned subsidiary in mexico)
new for list :applebies
dominoes pizza which we dont have one.
and any other company that will fire their workers who elected obama into office or the aca excuse

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
22. When in doubt, shop small local businesses.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:59 AM
Nov 2012

Even if they're screw balls, the money at least stays in the community.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
27. A formula for CEO compensation could be developed.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:23 PM
Nov 2012

Maybe the average salary for all employees then doubled? Or something like that.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
28. I've always been in favor of that.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:44 PM
Nov 2012

I was looking for links to examples in other countries, where the CEO pay is capped at (I believe) no more than something like 15-25% of the lowest or maybe it's average salary of employees. I know many people, including here at DU, disagree with any limitation.

I believe in it wholeheartedly. To me, it doesn't limit anyone; it provides incentive for the fruits of everyone's labor to be shared equitably. If the company does well, everyone does well.

Anyway, here's what I found instead which stopped me cold and made me a bit nauseated. There's a great graphic which I can't embed, unfortunately, at the link below:


Fortune 50 CEO pay vs. our salaries

Exactly how much more do Fortune 50 CEOs make than their workers? In many cases, quite a bit more. Here is an interactive breakdown of a handful of Fortune 50 top exec salaries compared to typical employee pay at their respective companies.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2012/ceo-pay-ratios/




 

randome

(34,845 posts)
29. Philosophically, I would be opposed. But Reality shows that compensation is out of control.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:48 PM
Nov 2012

And the more that compensation is out of control, the more the economic ship teeters for all of us.

Very interesting graph in your link.

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