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danimich1

(175 posts)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:35 PM Nov 2012

Lose vs Loose

Not trying to be rude. But thought a spelling lesson wouldn't hurt.

Lose vs Loose

A lot of people are mixing up lose and loose. In particular, a lot of people are writing loose when they really mean lose. Here are the definitions of the two words from my Penguin dictionary:

loose [lOOs] adj not fastened or pre-packed; not tied up or confined; able to move freely; not tight, not firmly fixed; not close-fitting; careless, inaccurate, vague; dissolute, immoral; not closely woven; flabby; (of bowels) inclined to diarrhoea; l. box stable or van in which an animal can move about; at a l. end uncertain what to do next; unoccupied ~ loose adv in a loose way; play fast and l. behave rashly or unscupulously ~ loose n release; on the l. free from restraint; on a spree; ~ loose v/t untie, undo; release from confinement or constraint, set free; detatch; fire (gun); shoot (arrow); (eccles) absolve.

lose (p/t and p/part lost) [lOOz] v/t and i no longer have; be deprived of by accident or misfortune; mislay, fail to find; fail to get or win; be too late for; be bereaved of; waste; be defeated or beaten; suffer loss, become worse off; fail to hear, see or understand; cause or allow to perish; (of clock or watch) go too slowly; (refl) miss the right path; become absorbed in; l. one's head become flustered, panic; l. one's temper grow angry; l. one's way fail to find the right path; l. out (US) be defeated after a struggle.

Examples:

This knot is too loose.
Please do not lose my book.
I had better not lose that file.
One way to remember the difference between the two words is to think that "lose has lost an 'o'".

Ross Williams (ross@ross.net)
24 January 2002

Revised 10 September 2002.

Note: The copyright notice below does not include the quotes above.

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Lose vs Loose (Original Post) danimich1 Nov 2012 OP
I'm loost InsultComicDog Nov 2012 #1
Lose the Kraken! Science Geek Nov 2012 #63
KICKED!! NMDemDist2 Nov 2012 #2
"The election is ours to lose" or "the election is too loose" or "The election is ours, Toulouse" Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #51
Thank you.. barnabas63 Nov 2012 #3
To which I respond Ghoti intaglio Nov 2012 #4
Do you lagh your ghoti in newspaper? Bucky Nov 2012 #8
Context tells me it's "wrap"... Iggo Nov 2012 #60
L as in Colonel, GH as in Hiccough Bucky Nov 2012 #65
Nice! Iggo Nov 2012 #69
ghoti = fish ailsagirl Nov 2012 #46
Your right. To many peopel make this mistake and its greating on my nerves. Bucky Nov 2012 #5
lol 2pooped2pop Nov 2012 #15
I seen it. nt Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #52
Next up, cloudbase Nov 2012 #6
I suck at apostrophes. nt justiceischeap Nov 2012 #9
apostrophe's what? polmaven Nov 2012 #38
It's the plural apostrophe that boggles, it's inconsistencies and horses' asses. Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #53
The one I hate is lightening instead of lightning. hobbit709 Nov 2012 #7
I got into an argument with a web site client over this exact error demwing Nov 2012 #36
I am so glad you posted this. RebelOne Nov 2012 #10
For those who have problems with usage errors..... prairierose Nov 2012 #11
Which reminds me of a homemade tattoo that a former neighbor had. Arkansas Granny Nov 2012 #12
No! Mnemosyne Nov 2012 #16
I herd it usually happens when people our tired. notadmblnd Nov 2012 #13
terrific, someone else here just to grade papers? n/t 2pooped2pop Nov 2012 #14
Me. I teach ESOL. I'm tough and old school. CTyankee Nov 2012 #32
well, since I'm not in school, I prefer not to have my papers graded. 2pooped2pop Nov 2012 #35
well, nobody is naming names here. We're just making a point about literacy in our mother tongue. CTyankee Nov 2012 #37
Those sort of mis-spellings get under my skin too Homer Wells Nov 2012 #17
My pet peeve is there, they're, and their MiniMe Nov 2012 #18
And how about lead v. led. ananda Nov 2012 #19
and "rein" vs. "reign" dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #42
Write the word "misled" on a card then ask people to pronounce it... Science Geek Nov 2012 #59
Mostly people with learning disabilities likely. nt Quixote1818 Nov 2012 #20
Loose for lose is never going away, neither is using 's for an s for plurals cherish44 Nov 2012 #21
Good luck with this onenote Nov 2012 #22
A few to add... Science Geek Nov 2012 #23
irregardless notadmblnd Nov 2012 #25
You forgot a very common one - advice vs advise kath Nov 2012 #39
I'm an English Major and have been corrected on this in the past. I think it comes from faulty Whovian Nov 2012 #24
also "Lou's" and "loos" are easy to confuse struggle4progress Nov 2012 #26
Grammar is the difference rateyes Nov 2012 #27
Haha! Not quite a DUzY but very, very close! Thanks! - n/t coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #44
Their doing that alot jberryhill Nov 2012 #28
This is a topic upon which I could rant for weeks on end. MANative Nov 2012 #29
For some, using proper spelling and grammar is a hard road to hoe... n/t cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #30
The problem is "choose" demwing Nov 2012 #31
THANK you! Zoeisright Nov 2012 #33
Agree with your "your" example, but I don't really think the others are so bad. I actually like CTyankee Nov 2012 #40
Don't get me stated on... Science Geek Nov 2012 #50
I think we may eventually lose our 3rd person singular in the present tense. CTyankee Nov 2012 #34
THANK YOU!!!! KauaiK Nov 2012 #41
I rant when I see polmaven Nov 2012 #43
When I read a sentence, I look for the intent of the writer. People make simple mistakes with words, bluestate10 Nov 2012 #45
I think this thread needs an appropiate tune... adirondacker Nov 2012 #47
Threw or through? jp11 Nov 2012 #48
Fast food restaurants... Science Geek Nov 2012 #54
Realtor and realty t UtahLib Nov 2012 #49
Splatter for spatter... Science Geek Nov 2012 #58
I have no ideal what your talking about. n/t reflection Nov 2012 #55
Worse than all of the above: then vs. than WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2012 #56
Many here have a lot to learn. Keep in mind that a lot of people are Dyslexic Quixote1818 Nov 2012 #57
Flannery O'Connor and William Faulkner--Notice the way their characters janx Nov 2012 #61
Nauseous versus nauseated-- janx Nov 2012 #62
emesis often leads to emeses. Science Geek Nov 2012 #66
These refer to the difference between janx Nov 2012 #72
Here's a website for everyone: Nedsdag Nov 2012 #64
Yes there are a lot of other errors danimich1 Nov 2012 #67
It's everywhere and is a sign of how badly our education system has gone down quinnox Nov 2012 #68
I teach college writing, and I can tell you that janx Nov 2012 #73
loose rhymes with goose dooner Nov 2012 #70
Funny how you can say prick your finger on the radio, but you can't say finger your prick. 1620rock Nov 2012 #71

Science Geek

(161 posts)
63. Lose the Kraken!
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:59 PM
Nov 2012

He's not much fun.

The whole lose/loose thing gets ironically delicious as soon as someone calls someone else a 'looser'.

Iggo

(47,561 posts)
60. Context tells me it's "wrap"...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:40 PM
Nov 2012

...as in a newspaper is fish wrap, but I can't figure out how to get from a to b.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
36. I got into an argument with a web site client over this exact error
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:28 PM
Nov 2012

She wrote that her AC units were not covered by lightening strikes.

I corrected the word, and ran it online.

She changed it, and wrote me a smug letter, offering the advice that I should reduce my spelling errors if I wanted to make a buck in web design.

I corrected the spelling again, and wrote back that while I appreciated her comments, the correct spelling was, in fact, lightning.

She insisted "lightening" was a real word. It is a word, I wrote, it's just not the word, and I photocopied a page from a dictionary, with both words highlighted.

I did not hear back from her until I received my check, with a brief "thanks for your services" pink slip. No more work from that client. Moron...

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
10. I am so glad you posted this.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:44 PM
Nov 2012

People not knowing the difference between lose and loose drives me crazy, but I do not correct them. I am a former copy editor for 30 outdoor magazines. Even some of the editors did not know that difference or the correct usage of it's or its. That's why when I was laid off that I knew that the magazines were in trouble.

prairierose

(2,145 posts)
11. For those who have problems with usage errors.....
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:46 PM
Nov 2012

here is a website that is very helpful. His explanations are very easy to understand and help you remember how to use the words correctly.

http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.html

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
32. Me. I teach ESOL. I'm tough and old school.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:15 PM
Nov 2012

My Intermediate and Advanced Chinese students have PERFECT spelling of English words. It always worries me that they come to my classes (which are free as I am a Literacy Volunteer) as part of their effort to "eat our lunch"...and judging by the way we treat people who want to insist on literacy in our own language, maybe we deserve such a fate...

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
35. well, since I'm not in school, I prefer not to have my papers graded.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:21 PM
Nov 2012

Nothing against teachers. Just against people who feel it is necessary to point out errors on a board of adults. It's embarrassing and demeaning to the posters. Most errors are errors of being rushed, etc. Most of them are simple to figure out without pointing out the spinach in the teeth, so to speak.

So some have a pet peeve of other people's grammar errors. Mine is people pointing out other peoples grammar errors. (That and newbie troll calling.)

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
37. well, nobody is naming names here. We're just making a point about literacy in our mother tongue.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:30 PM
Nov 2012

I think we have a noble language. I am not against all change, but basic meanings are being lost and that is different from "modernizing" a language. When we can't understand each other in our written language, what does that say about the state of our civilization?

Homer Wells

(1,576 posts)
17. Those sort of mis-spellings get under my skin too
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:44 PM
Nov 2012

For me it is "marshall law" when the phrase is "martial law"!!

MiniMe

(21,718 posts)
18. My pet peeve is there, they're, and their
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:50 PM
Nov 2012

Don't know why that one drives me crazy, but it does. But the lose/loose I have been seeing more frequently lately.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
42. and "rein" vs. "reign"
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:08 PM
Nov 2012

I see the phrase .." reign in " something when "rein" should have been used, in newspapers, like the NYTimes.

Science Geek

(161 posts)
59. Write the word "misled" on a card then ask people to pronounce it...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:36 PM
Nov 2012

...it's interesting. Our English class did this in our Junior year. With an all adult sample, our class found that 87 out of 100 people did not correctly pronounce the word on the first try.

cherish44

(2,566 posts)
21. Loose for lose is never going away, neither is using 's for an s for plurals
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:59 PM
Nov 2012

It just doesn't sink in with some people.

onenote

(42,723 posts)
22. Good luck with this
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:00 PM
Nov 2012

Really, I wish you well. I've tried pointing out when people misuse loose but it was becoming a full time job.

Science Geek

(161 posts)
23. A few to add...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:04 PM
Nov 2012

ad = advertisement
add = addition

alot = is not a word!
a lot = many

noone = is not a word!
no one = nobody

affect = http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/affect
effect = http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/effect

insure = http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/insure
ensure = http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ensure
assure = http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assure

flout = disregard
flaunt = show off

capital = a city, or wealth
capitol = a building where lawmakers meet

lay = Lay is a transitive verb meaning to put or place. Its principal parts are lay, laid.
I will lay the keys on the table. I've laid the keys on the table. Chickens lay eggs.

lie = Lie is an intransitive verb meaning to recline or rest on a surface. Its principal parts are lie, lay, lain.
When I'm tired, I lie in bed. He's lain in bed all day.

toward = NEVER put an S on the end of this word!
anyway = NEVER put an S on the end of this word!

Some others involving compound words:

I will give away 3 items in the prize giveaway.
I will use the setup utility to set up the program.

kath

(10,565 posts)
39. You forgot a very common one - advice vs advise
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:46 PM
Nov 2012

advice is a noun, advise a verb

ADVICE is what you give someone when you ADVISE them.

 

Whovian

(2,866 posts)
24. I'm an English Major and have been corrected on this in the past. I think it comes from faulty
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:07 PM
Nov 2012

teaching methods telling us oo as in MOO. Another bugaboo is the old I before E except after C mantra that I learned as a kid that makes me thankful for today's spell check programs.

Now if my browser would include http://www.grammarly.com/ I would sound so much more intelligent.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
29. This is a topic upon which I could rant for weeks on end.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:47 PM
Nov 2012

But I won't; I'll just do the short version.

I serve as a volunteer editor for an amateur writers' website and correct this kind of error day in and day out. I even started writing a weekly tips column to cover some of the most egregious errors which writers were making over and over again, even after having been corrected (with detailed explanations) multiple times for the same mistake. I know that there are some people who have real learning disabilities which make these rules difficult to learn, but there are many for whom the constant errors are the result of intellectual laziness and lack of attention to detail. Apart from incorrect use of commas and semicolons, the most common errors are homonym/homophone word choice screw-ups. Drives me up a tree when people won't do the simple task of looking things up for correct usage when they are unsure. Proofreading is your readers' best friend.

Here's a great resource for writing and punctuation information: http://owl.english.purdue.edu/

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
31. The problem is "choose"
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:08 PM
Nov 2012

People spell things phonetically. They want to spell lose, they know it rhymes with choose, so they spell the words the same way.

So...why don't we pronounce lose like chose? Or hose? Or nose? Or pose? Or rose?

Who knows?

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
33. THANK you!
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:17 PM
Nov 2012

I also hate "your" when people mean "you are", "swap out" when they mean "substitute", and "went missing" when they mean "disappeared." And "impact" as a verb.

And I hate those lazy contractions "must've", "should've", "might've", etc. I actually saw "shouldn't've" in a published book! And it wasn't in a conversation, where it MIGHT HAVE been correct.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
40. Agree with your "your" example, but I don't really think the others are so bad. I actually like
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:07 PM
Nov 2012

"went missing" and I don't mind "impact" as a verb.

My reasoning is that if a word's usage actually improves understanding of what is being said, then perhaps it has a place in our written language. What, after all, is the purpose of written language if not to convey meaning?

The misspellings that confuse meaning is what I am against.

Science Geek

(161 posts)
50. Don't get me stated on...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:51 PM
Nov 2012

gifting and tasking.

I gifted the Red Cross $10.00. Please, just say 'gave'.

I tasked Robert with watering the plants. Ugh! Please, kill me now.

"Woke/wake up" bothers me too.

I woke. -or- I awoke. I woke him. He woke. When did you wake? Are all perfect, and don't risk a terminal preposition (itself an oxymoron).

"Where are you at?" Apparently, I'm in some English hell!
"Where are you?" Asks exactly the same question without an unnecessary and misplaced preposition.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
34. I think we may eventually lose our 3rd person singular in the present tense.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:20 PM
Nov 2012

I am a Literacy Volunteer. I teach verb conjugation in the regular, old school style, but I notice that more and more correct usage in this tense and person are being dropped in favor of just one form. So we have I go, you go, he/she/it GO etc.

It grates on my nerves when a student says "She go to school" or "he do yard work today." I always correct them but it seems like a losing (not loosing) battle as the rules get looser (not loser).

polmaven

(9,463 posts)
43. I rant when I see
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:11 PM
Nov 2012

someone write that he/she "should of" done this or that. Folks......it is "should have"!!!!

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
45. When I read a sentence, I look for the intent of the writer. People make simple mistakes with words,
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:24 PM
Nov 2012

that doesn't make them stupid. All of have our hot spot misuse of words, the one that rings me up is when people use "moran" for "moron".

Science Geek

(161 posts)
54. Fast food restaurants...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:13 PM
Nov 2012

...started calling it a drive-'thru' a while ago, and I occasionally see people spell it that way in reports or correspondence. Which brings me to 'tuff'. If this gets any tougher, I'll be thoroughly through.

Roster vs. Rooster! (Ha! Ha!)
Please remove me from your rooster! (Google it)

UtahLib

(3,179 posts)
49. Realtor and realty t
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:22 PM
Nov 2012

I don't know if it's a regional pronunciation problem, but I hear relator or relaty spoken even by news broadcasters in this area. I have also heard people say crick when meaning creek and jewlery rather than jewelry. I think I could go on forever. Most people don't appreciate being corrected so I try to ignore it unless uttered by one of my children.

Science Geek

(161 posts)
58. Splatter for spatter...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:26 PM
Nov 2012

Blood may splatter from an artery, but once it's on the floor it's spatter.

When I first moved to Ohio, I started hearing 'crick' which is a painful spasmodic condition of muscles; nothing more, being used to describe small creeks or streams which are really 'brooks' or even 'rills' if small enough.

I guess it goes in order: River, stream, creek, brook, rill. Anyone know if that's right?

Quixote1818

(28,950 posts)
57. Many here have a lot to learn. Keep in mind that a lot of people are Dyslexic
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:25 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:01 AM - Edit history (1)

Many dyslexic people endured being called "stupid" etc. growing up. Many kids commit suicide because they don't learn the same way others do and because of the low self esteem that comes from this. Prejudice against people who learn differently can be just as painful as prejudice against gays or people because of their race.




Dyslexia: A Hidden Disability

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janx

(24,128 posts)
62. Nauseous versus nauseated--
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:57 PM
Nov 2012

If you are nauseous, that means that you are making people puke.

If you are nauseated, then you are the one doing the puking.

Science Geek

(161 posts)
66. emesis often leads to emeses.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:16 AM
Nov 2012

Nauseous has been misused for so long, that many dictionaries have added a second meaning for nauseous which echos nauseated.
But, I tend to agree with you, why would we need two words with exactly the same meaning?

danimich1

(175 posts)
67. Yes there are a lot of other errors
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:24 AM
Nov 2012

But I've been noticing the "loose" one constantly lately. What a great way to use the word - on Romney and friends who are such losers in so many more ways than just this election!

I have to admit that the errors here are not nearly as bad as the ones in freeperville!

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
68. It's everywhere and is a sign of how badly our education system has gone down
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:39 AM
Nov 2012

I have even seen this mistake in magazines and on blogs that are supposed to be professional. They don't teach spelling like they used to, and most kids today hate reading a book, or reading in general. They think it is boring. If you don't read, then you will be more prone to making mistakes like this, and another one which drives me crazy - "noone" - this is also everywhere. I had to explain some years ago this is not a word on another message board, and people still didn't believe me, even when I pointed out it is not in any dictionary.

A big problem with lose vs loose is spell check doesn't work on it, so you have to know the difference on your own, otherwise you will keep making the same mistake.
I think we are stuck with bad spelling and it will only get worse, because they don't seem to put much stock in proper spelling these days in education.

janx

(24,128 posts)
73. I teach college writing, and I can tell you that
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:47 PM
Nov 2012

a lot of this has to do with the misuse of spell check. You are right about reading, but some similar words show up because young adults go through spell check at a fast rate and don't pay attention to the changes they are or not making.

The same thing happens now with the lack of copy editors online: There are wrong words or missing words (incomplete sentences)--sometimes it's so bad that headlines don't even make sense.

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