Papa John's CEO says he will cut hours to 30 to avoid healthcare: WE CAN HELP!

[DonRedwood]

Hey everybody! How about we start sending this around Facebook, Twitter, DU. You know how those CEOs hate bad publicity. John Schnatter is a bit of a media whore but that's when he is controlling the message. How about we put him in the hotseat for a little while?

[onethatcares]

1. need a link,

I have no problem helping this go viral but I need to see a verifiable link.

Thanks

[barbiegeek]

9. I think it is Repug Rumor to start Mass hysteria

I only saw Repugs posting it on FB and causing panic

[DonRedwood]

17. Here is a good post on the issue

always good to do your homework!

[DonRedwood]

53. This meme is now on the first page of images for papa johns :0) (recentpics) DU did that!

[Indpndnt]

22. Google is your friend.

This is what I got in one try.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/papa-johns-obamacare-john-schnatter_n_2104202.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

[DonRedwood]

52. I just found this on google images :0) me likey

http://democratsforprogress.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=20449

[farmbo]

2. Easily done... His pizza sucks anyway

Eom

[Lugnut]

3. +100 n/t

[gravity]

4. An extra 14 cents a pizza is nothing

That could occur from an increase in the price of milk.

These businessmen care more about the politics than the actual policy. A company that size can easily absorb the costs.

[TahitiNut]

34. I'm betting that 14 cents includes 10 cents more in his pocket.

The idiots that applaud him get joyfully screwed.

[jp11]

65. Absorbing costs is socialism/communism/anti-american/yada yada

the only sensible american thing to do is pass costs onto consumers, or steal it from your workers.



After all a good rich person doesn't get rich by giving money away.

[Wounded Bear]

5. I'd love to boycott them, but I don't eat that shit anyway....

[Cirque du So-What]

7. Boycotts extend beyond merely shunning the product

It includes taking an active role in getting the word out.

[Botany]

6. Google is fun

[e-mail] Schnattner is not listed but this is the email for the Ex Vice President

[InsultComicDog]

8. I only regret that my boycott of this business will be useless

since I don't eat there anyway

[Marymarg]

10. Boycott

Maybe an official DU list to boycott, adding Applbee's and any others who mistreat their employees to reward their hateful, loathesome, soul less CEOs .

[Servius Valerius]

42. Agreed!

Perhaps we should reach out to companies not cutting hours to below 30. As the consumers of America, we can and should let Papa Johns and others who seek profit over principle find only bankruptcy.

[Honeycombe8]

11. I don't eat that crud, anyway. Now, fried chicken is another matter entirely! nt

[InsultComicDog]

12. you know I think when someone announces that they are going to be a dickhead to their employees

and blames the President for it, I don't think most people are going to agree with that stupidity other than the usual wingnuts.

[progressoid]

13. Same douche that paid $275,000 to get his teenage Camaro back.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2009/08/68497714/1#.UJ6fa4awU24

Fuck him and his shitty pizza.

[nolabear]

14. My son works for him while in school. He never gets 30 anyway.

It's well known among the peons that you never get benefits. I've been letting it lay there because it's his life but my insurance can't cover him forever!

[Firebirds01]

44. Same at Walmart

They will send employees home (without pay) if the sales are down for that day or they will send them home if they are getting too close to 40 hours in a week. They also hire people for a lower-paying job (janitor) and then assign them to work a higher paying job (cashier) but they get paid the lower rate.

There is no union but they have an "open door" policy where you can go talk to a manager about a complaint and they wont hold it against you.

I know someone who was told to do something that was not part of his assigned job and in the rule book it says he is not supposed to do. He refused so they, right on the spot, accused him of doing drugs. Of course he denied it (because he wasnt doing drugs) they then told him to take a drug test right then and there. Angry at the accusation he said no. They fired him on the spot for "refusing to take a drug test in compliance with his employee obligations." The managers were bragging about having him fired in the break room later that day.

[ceejdre82]

75. just watched the documentary "Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Prices"

[juajen]

15. I've been boycotting them for months.

It might be that those of us, and there were many, made a differece when we turned to other Pizza companies, and that's really why he is cutting hours. I really love their pizza, and have to say that I miss it. But, their politics define them. I will not eat that pizza again. Many progressives started boycotting them when they came out in support of Chic fa lay (sp.) I have not regretted it for a minute. I am tired of people of another color, or same gender lover, getting shunned and put down. I don't have a gay child, but, I do have a gay grandchild. My arms are always open for all people, as long as they aren't being nasty to others.

[pasto76]

20. pizza is sacred in this house. Shop around, there are much better spots in your town I bet

hopefully you have a locally owned NY pizzeria style place.

[TahitiNut]

37. CostCo sells a good 12" frozen (uncooked) pizza in a 4-pack.

A mere 30 minutes (22 minutes in my toaster oven) and I've got a hot pizza that feed two ... or me twice.

[colsohlibgal]

16. Let Ted Nugent Eat His Bad Pizza.

Let's boycott the jerk.

[kydo]

18. Never liked the pizza in the first place

better ingredients better pizza BS! I avoid it every time. And when there is no other option I either get something else nothing at all. Actually I LOL every time I see his ads. He such a tiny wimpy looking guy but always has to appear in the ads. If his male dingle o ling thing was even 100x the size of his ego it would still require the worlds most powerful microscope to even view it. He is just a smaller version of the clown with the fake hair, donald I am a dumb duck trump.

[Patiod]

19. Don't all the chains already cut hours?

My brother and his wife both work for a huge retail corporation that won't allow either of them full-time status to avoid benefits. My brother was promoted to department manager and is still not allowed full time status, even during holidays.

There was a front page article in a recent Sunday NYT about how many companies are minimizing hours using sophisticated computer programs. They tell staffers to report for 2-3 hour "shifts", then send them home, and maybe the employee only gets 20 hours some weeks. And the companies want flexibility, so they vary the hours widely every day, and the employees can't pick up other jobs.

To pretend this has anything to do with Obamacare is just partisan and deceptive.

Don't eat at chains unless you have no other options. Support local family businesses!

[JackN415]

21. Never eat at papajohn again

[ErikJ]

23. He's a SOCIALIST!! -wants taxpayers to pay for their healthcare!

Just like Walmart where half their emoployees are on food stamps because the richest family on earth worth $125 billion cant seem to pay them enough to eat.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

24. Get the word out to his employees & potential employees. More effective than a boycott.

All the companies compete under the same rules. If Schnatter wants to compete by squeezing employees, then he will end up with worse employees because the better ones will leave. In the modern world, that is a FAIL.

[Marrah_G]

25. Most big companies and retail/restraunt chains already do that

Keep the hours at below 30 and of course no set schedule so people can work two part time crap jobs......

[Floyd_Gondolli]

26. He's a sadist

[airplaneman]

27. These employers are making a political statement by screwing their employees.

You can never believe they ever cared or ever will care about their employees. They are just worthless shit to be abused for their own personal gain. Yes boycott them all and support small family businesses.
-Airplane

[hobbit709]

28. I know several people who worked at Papa Johns-they never got scheduled for more than 30 hours.

[Carni]

49. Don't they have to pay workers comp insurance for full time employees?

That would explain why they limit these people to part time to begin with.

I don't know anyone working at these chains who work more than part time.

No great loss for the employees, who do these CEOs think they are fooling?

[onethatcares]

54. workmans compensation is a totally different ballgame

it deals with injury on the job and replacement of wages while undergoing healing.

Healthcare is something we're all going to need at one point in our lives, wc, not so much if you're lucky.

His employees are probably not making enough to stay home if they are sick which leads to them coming to

work,spreading the sauce and germs, and giving us all a chance to become ill.

What a piece of work the United States employment system is, and these plutocrats want more from us drones every day.

[Carni]

62. Yes, I know. Probably didn't word my last post properly.

My husband owned a business until like 2004 (I mean for many years he went into business in 1987)

I am trying to recall what the deal was with workers comp insurance and how the premiums were assessed.

We had mostly full time people that obviously we carried it for, in case they were injured on the job (it's the law) but it seems to me there was something different about the part time laws for workers comp (I may be totally wrong)

I would have to look this up because my memory is hazy. Maybe we paid premiums on everyone, I just don't remember.

We only had one part time employee who was a HS kid who came in for a couple of hours after school each day to help clean.

With all that said, we paid for our employees health insurance and we were a very small company (like 6 employees)

A Republican would probably counter with we were stupid and that's why we went out of business (NOT)

We went out of business because the economy went to hell (under BUSH) earlier than it did around the rest of the country!

[itsrobert]

29. Pizza places are a dime a dozen out here

It's not like PapaJohns is the only place in town. It's not hard to boycott this place. We usually go to Costco and get a self-bake Pizza anyhow.

[TahitiNut]

38. CostCo pizza is good ... either the take-and-bake or the frozen 12" Kirkland.

You CAN'T beat the price.

I haven't tried the carry-out, but I assume it's the take-and-bake.

[crazy homeless guy]

43. Costco also backed O'Bama.. though I don't think pizza from Kirkland would be my first purchase.

I wouldn't think that a company that also has things like plastic wrap in the repertoire would be capable of making a good pie at the same time.

[mick063]

73. Are you kidding?

I love their all cheese pizza.


Try it. Get a slice cooked in store.

I know there are killer pizza places with loads of great toppings, but when I shop a Costco, I always get a slice of cheese pizza for the drive home. Yummy.

Now that I know they backed our President, I feel really good about my "habit".

[Bluzmann57]

56. Of course, we don't all have Costco in our towns

The closest one is around 50 miles away and I am not travelling 50 miles for a frozen pizza.
But we have some real good pizza joints in this area anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter.

[TwilightGardener]

30. My boycott has already been years in the making.

Due to crappy pizza.

[crazy homeless guy]

31. Sad, and shitty pizza at the same time.

I haven't ordered Papa Johns since I was in college some 15+ years ago. It was bad pizza then. The ingredients stopped far from the crust and the crust was basically tasteless. I assume the tasteless crust was why they had to give you the garlic sause for free to dip it in.

Anyway... it is sad this guy became so rich on such an inferrer product. There were local/regional chains that had better pizza at a better price.

[mn9driver]

32. PJ's NEVER lets employees work anywhere close to 30 hours. They are lying

about the health care law since it has ALWAYS been this way.

[Blue4Texas]

35. I suspected

Most of these sensationalists are doing what they do/would have done anyway and they think we're too stupid to see it

[RepublicansRZombies]

33. right on!

[Omaha Steve]

36. We stopped buying their pizza after he had a fund raiser for Romney earlier this year

We won't eat Dominoes or Out Back for political reasons either.

[Lochloosa]

39. I have two locally owned pizza shops two blocks from my house.

Fuck the "big box" pizza stores.

[grilled onions]

40. We Also Need Dem CEO types to counter act

If any company lays off sixteen we need to find one that will hire seventeen and "we" could spread the word about their noble deed. They could all use a bit of pr and we know we need more jobs to continue our forward progression.
How many of these anti Obama types were just waiting for his victory to use as an excuse to lay off people,cut their hours or not hire new help? We need to beat them at their own game. Boycotting is indeed a start but we need to stay ahead of them and not let them get away with such a heartless act. After all they seem to think it's OK for THEM to have healthcare but not for their help. It's OK for them to have great benefits,paid vacations etc. It's time the worker gets respect,a living wage and benefits. They are not asking for a handout.

[Texin]

41. Yeah. Most of the fuckwad employers who want to avoid any kind of employee benefit program.

keep all their workers on part-time status. The full-time people are paid a little better than minimum wage, but get nothing beyond that. If you're sick, you lose a day of pay if you can't make it in. Wanna take a vacation -assuming, of course, you could even affort to take one - lose whatever time you take off in wages. I worked for a jerk and his wife a few years back and who hired a bunch of people to do clerical data entry and they brought them in as "consultants" so they could keep from paying payroll related taxes, FICA, etc. I knew what they were doing was not legal under the Federal Wage and Hour Act, but I had already left the company. Turns out that one young woman was hired whose uncle is an attorney. He told her that what they were doing was illegal and that she should report them. Long story short, she did and they were given the beatdown by the Wage & Hour bureau and the IRS. Love that outcome.

Would a petition such as recently done with Chick Fil A make any difference?

[Dina]

45. Greedy Man.

I refuse to eat at Papa John's Now. I also refuse to eat at Chick-Fil-A and shop a Hobby Lobby. General rule...if the place is closed on Sundays, avoid them like the plague.

Can someone start a thread of places to avoid, and places to shop and eat? I'd love to eat and shop based at places who do not discriminate, cut workers hours, and support right wing politicians and right wing interest groups.

[beac]

69. You can add Michael's and JoAnn Fabrics to your list. n/t

[ceejdre82]

74. Hobby Lobby was founded by a religious nut ball....

that is why they are closed on Sunday.

[WinniSkipper]

46. Go after the Broncos instead

Peyton Manning is the face of Papa John's. Peyton Manning is also in a union.

Elway HATES bad publicity. You want action - put the Broncos is the crosshairs. Papa Johns is one of the bigger sponsors of the NFL

[Bluzmann57]

57. Won't go after the Broncos instead

But I may go after them as well.

[WinniSkipper]

66. I like that better. nt

[VenusRising]

47. This photo is already going around facebook...

[Carni]

48. All of the chain restaurants in question are TERRIBLE anyway

I have eaten Papa Johns pizza ONCE and it sucked.

Red Lobster, Applebees, Olive Garden--they are all akin to the quality of McDonald's as far as I am concerned (in other words they suck)

I ate at an olive garden about a year ago because someone else insisted on going there and ended up with food poisoning.

I wish I could say my boycott will make a difference, but I don't eat at these crappy places to begin with!

[DonRedwood]

50. OOOOOh...look at this!

from this site: http://democratsforprogress.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=20449

[TeamPooka]

51. I don't need a political reason to not buy his pizza. nt

[onethatcares]

55. I emailed their customer service

and the email I received back almost made me think the typist was smiling when they told me it would be passed on to the honchos.

[Jennicut]

58. Anyone that lives in the Northeast that would eat that crap is crazy.

NY and CT and have some of the best pizza in the entire United States.
I would not touch that fake processed crap with a ten foot pole. There is great, local pizza in CT down the street from me and the people are paid well and happy that work there.

Though I do feel bad for that asshole's employees.

[Spock_is_Skeptical]

59. No surprise there, Papa Johns sucks anyway.

Same thing Wal-Mart & other employers have done for years. Typical scumbag management style.

[pipewrench]

60. I will support the boycott.

Every person no matter their status has a right to proper healthcare.

[cherish44]

61. That's a cutting of you nose to spite your face move if I ever saw one

Good luck keeping any decent employees around with that attitude

[HangOnKids]

67. cutting of you nose?

Really?

[cui bono]

63. Solution for these types of business owners...

advocate single payer health care.

[upi402]

64. Papa John's has deer mouse crap in their flour

Not certain, just sayin' it could be.

[lonestarnot]

68. A few customers left this afternoon while friend and I waited for a haircut. We edumucated them.

[Kurovski]

70. R-75

In Chicagoland, we gots way better, i tell youse now.

[sarcasmo]

71. Kick!

[progressivebydesign]

72. One of my daughter's worked for Costco, GREAT benefits even for p/t

Same with my other daughter who works for Barnes & Noble. That guy is a typical right wing asshole. Lives like he thinks he's royalty, while screwing his employees. I can only imagine the cheap garbage ingredients in his pizzas. Had it once. Yuck. LIke pizza for a school lunch. Totally bland.

I'll stick with my local pizza joint or RoundTable which is employee owned!!

[Blue Owl]

76. Some whine with that pizza?

If it's so horrible just shut the whole operation down, for fucks sake.

[Eerriicc36]

77. Capitalism

That's the beuty of a free market economy. We do not have to eat his pizza, and his employees do not have to work there.

[robinlynne]

78. boycotted. done. I will tell all of my friends.

[Jack Sprat]

79. I sent Papa a letter

informing him that because of his retribution against his employee's healthcare needs, I would never buy another of his pizzas.

I meant it too. They make a decent pizza, but many other more prudent pizza house owners haven't publicly decried ACA and threatened their employees.

[MinM]

80. Publicize Progressive Pizza Parlors

"@Will_Bunch: If there's a progressive pizza company (doesn't seem to be!) let's name it so liberals can eat there and boycott the neanderthals"

[JCMach1]

81. Who eats this crap anyway...?

Bueller?


Trying not to be a snob, but I tried this company a couple of times and ewwwww.

[JCMach1]

82. Are there any national pizza chains that donate to progressive causes?

[Thinkingabout]

83. I hope the CEO has enjoyed his compensation of $8+M, maybe you will be short a few sales.

[MinM]

84. k & r