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Provisional ballot bullshit! Take a look at this shit! (Original Post) lonestarnot Nov 2012 OP
sooo.....what's the bullshit part...? BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #1
Stacks and stacks of boxes of ballots and no one is working on it tonight. lonestarnot Nov 2012 #2
They were not working this afternoon either. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #16
what would you have them do...? BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #3
like tomorrow tibbiit Nov 2012 #4
"like tomorrow" what? BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #5
and Carmona may have actually won instead of Flakey SoCalDem Nov 2012 #6
No shit! lonestarnot Nov 2012 #8
There is only 80,000 difference between Carmona and Flake. LisaL Nov 2012 #9
Probably because they "challenged" as many "brown" people as possible, SoCalDem Nov 2012 #11
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #20
Count the fucking votes! 24/7 until they are fucking counted for one thing. Two, not force lonestarnot Nov 2012 #7
and what is the normal procedure for doing so in AZ...? BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #10
Do you see anyone? There is no one over there working. lonestarnot Nov 2012 #12
and what are the laws and procedures for counting them in AZ...? BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #14
They have until the 16th. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #17
with provisional ballots in AZ- does the voter have to come back to show ID? BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #19
No. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #24
I am sorry, but if you can't see the problem at this point nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #13
do you happen to know the rules for doing the counts on those ballots in AZ...? BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #15
What are you lazy? Look it up. lonestarnot Nov 2012 #18
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #21
Free clue, use the google. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #22
why can't all the experts here on AZ election law(like yourself, apparently?) explain it? BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #23
If you don't instinctively know what is wrong with this situation DURHAM D Nov 2012 #25
+1000 n/t Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #26
so- you'd prefer to have it done quickly rather than correctly? BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #27
That is idiotic. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #28
in the linked video- it shows LOTS of people counting the ballots... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #29
You may want to have another look see. Don't you believe in counting votes? lonestarnot Nov 2012 #30

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
16. They were not working this afternoon either.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:46 PM
Nov 2012

I watched a live feed for awhile. There was one woman in the room doing nothing.

 

BlueMan Votes

(903 posts)
3. what would you have them do...?
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:11 PM
Nov 2012

what would be the normal process in looking at the ballots? does there have to be an election judge from each party present?
and with the biggest national race already finished, there probably isn't as big a sense of urgency about it all. what's the date
that they have to be counted by, and the election certified?

 

BlueMan Votes

(903 posts)
5. "like tomorrow" what?
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:16 PM
Nov 2012

are you referring to the date by which the election has to be certified in AZ...?

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
9. There is only 80,000 difference between Carmona and Flake.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:21 PM
Nov 2012

And more than 600,000 provisional ballots still not counted.
That's ridiculous.
WTF does AZ have so many provisional ballots? Even OH only has ~200,000.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
11. Probably because they "challenged" as many "brown" people as possible,
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:27 PM
Nov 2012

and made them use provisional ballots that they could later discredit

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
7. Count the fucking votes! 24/7 until they are fucking counted for one thing. Two, not force
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:19 PM
Nov 2012

Sense of urgency? WTF. 10 days.

 

BlueMan Votes

(903 posts)
10. and what is the normal procedure for doing so in AZ...?
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:23 PM
Nov 2012

for instance- do there have to be election judges present...?

 

BlueMan Votes

(903 posts)
14. and what are the laws and procedures for counting them in AZ...?
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:35 PM
Nov 2012

i'd rather they get counted correctly than quickly.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
17. They have until the 16th.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:49 PM
Nov 2012

In the past they have just thrown away provisional ballots without ever counting them. There are three U.S. Congressional seats and a U.S. senate seat still undecided.

 

BlueMan Votes

(903 posts)
15. do you happen to know the rules for doing the counts on those ballots in AZ...?
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:37 PM
Nov 2012

because if you don't, you're right- you can't help me. i'd prefer someone who knows what they're talking about.

Response to lonestarnot (Reply #18)

 

BlueMan Votes

(903 posts)
23. why can't all the experts here on AZ election law(like yourself, apparently?) explain it?
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:58 PM
Nov 2012


like i said- i'd prefer they be counted correctly, rather than quickly.
i think most reasonable people would.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
25. If you don't instinctively know what is wrong with this situation
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:07 AM
Nov 2012

I have no choice but to assume you are not a liberal, or a progressive or any sort of Democrat.

Done

 

BlueMan Votes

(903 posts)
29. in the linked video- it shows LOTS of people counting the ballots...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:19 AM
Nov 2012

and they say specifically that there hasn't been any problems with the provisional ballots.

so where's the bullshit?

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