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So much for speedy justice (Original Post) Roland99 Apr 2023 OP
The New York court system is notoriously slow. Ocelot II Apr 2023 #1
Trial is tentatively set for January 2024. rsdsharp Apr 2023 #2
In 8 months he will demand change of venue, Emile Apr 2023 #3
I don't think you understand the speedy trial provisions of the Constitution Effete Snob Apr 2023 #4
I think New York's speedy trial rule provides that *the prosecution* has 60 days Ocelot II Apr 2023 #8
I think what they understand is... lame54 Apr 2023 #11
26 months and counting republianmushroom Apr 2023 #5
19 Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2023 #9
And the goal posts have moved already Ohio Joe Apr 2023 #6
That is a normal timeline -- his is not the only case in the pipeline. Lettuce Be Apr 2023 #7
The rape case may get finished first Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2023 #10

Ocelot II

(115,875 posts)
1. The New York court system is notoriously slow.
Tue Apr 4, 2023, 04:14 PM
Apr 2023

We will probably have the GA and DoJ indictments soon, and those cases are likely to move faster. The federal courts in particular can proceed pretty quickly once there's an indictment.

rsdsharp

(9,208 posts)
2. Trial is tentatively set for January 2024.
Tue Apr 4, 2023, 04:15 PM
Apr 2023

That’s incredibly fast. This isn’t the only case the court or the attorneys have. Even if it was, it takes time to prepare a case for trial. This isn’t TV.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
4. I don't think you understand the speedy trial provisions of the Constitution
Tue Apr 4, 2023, 04:19 PM
Apr 2023

The right to a "speedy trial" is the right of the Defendant. In the federal and US court systems there are "speedy trial" rules which are designed to meet various criteria of what has been determined to be "speedy" over the course of 234 years of experience with the Eighth Amendment (which didn't apply to the states until the Fourteenth Amendment).

It is not, however, the right of everyone else to try someone right away regardless of what motions they want to file or other procedural steps that have to occur before a trial in any event.

In other words, if the Trump defense doesn't think it is speedy enough, it is up to them to object, but not up to everyone else to demand it go any faster.

Ocelot II

(115,875 posts)
8. I think New York's speedy trial rule provides that *the prosecution* has 60 days
Tue Apr 4, 2023, 05:10 PM
Apr 2023

to announce that it is ready for trial, but the defense can waive that time limit through discovery motions, etc. The reason for the existence of the constitutional speedy trial rule is to be sure that a defendant who is presumed innocent isn't left hanging indefinitely, possibly in jail, while the prosecution drags its feet. The rule might be why the Manhattan criminal court system is so overburdened; most defendants want and are entitled to be tried ASAP. But there is no way for the prosecution to make a case move more quickly because the speedy trial right belongs only to the defendant.

lame54

(35,326 posts)
11. I think what they understand is...
Tue Apr 4, 2023, 08:07 PM
Apr 2023

8 months is the starter
Delay
Delay
Delay
They are going to push as close to the election as possible

8 months is an incredible head start

Lettuce Be

(2,337 posts)
7. That is a normal timeline -- his is not the only case in the pipeline.
Tue Apr 4, 2023, 04:51 PM
Apr 2023

They don't shove his case in front of the line.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
10. The rape case may get finished first
Tue Apr 4, 2023, 07:00 PM
Apr 2023

But it is only civil, right?

Still, bad enough in the eyes of decent independents and old-guard Republicans.

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