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PCIntern

(25,565 posts)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:41 PM Nov 2012

Mrs. Intern has a theory which is hers, belongs to her, and his hers too

To paraphrase Monty Python...

Please allow me to preface this by saying that she's pretty sharp. She picked on the Bush family interview on Election Night 2000 when she thought that Poppy Bush was really nervous and shifty. He knew what was going down th e whole time. For eight years she kept saying, toldja so that night that they were busy stealing the election. Of course, we all knew that after the fact a little bit but. She was suspicious right there at that moment.

so when she saw Ann Romneys hairdo at the concession speech my wife said suddenly that her hair was done as though for an inauguration or victory party, that she had never seen her with her hair up like that and that this was special hair. I never argue with her intuition about this stuff...in fact, I rarely argue with her at all. But that's a story for another day.
I for one think that the fix was in but something or someone stopped it, whether from within or without. It was too weird and while we we watching Ohio, other states may have been planned to be in play but the trigger was never pulled. This would make a great film of the ilk of the original The Day of the Jackal, Three Days of the Condor, or Seven Days in May. Does anyone else see a pattern here?

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Mrs. Intern has a theory which is hers, belongs to her, and his hers too (Original Post) PCIntern Nov 2012 OP
The incredulous rove remains inexplicable. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #1
Yes - and your wife was correct malaise Nov 2012 #2
He looks more like Lurch the Fucking Stiff (TM, not me) in that picture than I've ever seen. Buns_of_Fire Nov 2012 #43
They never seem close, even when they kiss sammytko Nov 2012 #50
Now THAT is really perverted. DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #80
LOL: Zomney LiberalEsto Nov 2012 #59
Hard to watch malaise Nov 2012 #73
zomney- love it- you should have come up with that earlier! RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #92
i think it was clear from the timing of the concession speech unblock Nov 2012 #3
I'm not saying one way or another - my suspicions are always that they try to steal TlalocW Nov 2012 #13
I thought the same thing about the speech. BattyDem Nov 2012 #25
Yes, very rehearsed and slightly tweaked... Phentex Nov 2012 #38
When I saw Rove freak out, I knew something went awry with a plan Siwsan Nov 2012 #4
I like the theory that goes Qutzupalotl Nov 2012 #6
But, wouldn't they tell Rove, so he wouldn't look like such a fool? Siwsan Nov 2012 #8
exactly, why risk jail time just to narrow the margin of victory. unblock Nov 2012 #17
that's what I think bluemarkers Nov 2012 #79
Yep. Given all the attention that was focused on Ohio hifiguy Nov 2012 #15
We have a winnah!!!! I have no doubt that this is exactly what happened. Of course Ann had her monmouth Nov 2012 #16
Secret Service is happy, think of all the code names beginning with "J" they would have crunch60 Nov 2012 #27
What happened with the food? malaise Nov 2012 #55
Packed up and donated to the downtrodden, suffering 1% nt LiberalEsto Nov 2012 #61
Yes! Dick Morris was sure of his "landslide" prediction, too. pacalo Nov 2012 #21
That makes a lot of sense pscot Nov 2012 #26
+1! the people in Florida didn't get the message though but it didn't matter either..good take uponit7771 Nov 2012 #39
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #54
We will know this if Husted meets with an untimely death in the next couple of years. kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #86
Actually, Husted had pissed off TWO federal judges by then! nt tblue37 Nov 2012 #89
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #52
They were blindsided by Pennsylvania being called so early, they thought Penn was a done deal. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #94
I'd go with the "ire" of the mega donors. Never use a big word .... Scuba Nov 2012 #5
... or a little one. :) eppur_se_muova Nov 2012 #49
Stealing an election from a sitting President who expects you to try it.... Junkdrawer Nov 2012 #7
Yes! liberalmuse Nov 2012 #78
I agree Awknid Nov 2012 #9
Anonymous maybe, if so, cheers to them. crunch60 Nov 2012 #28
Maybe they didn't expect the Ohio SOS to come out and say he was going home! madaboutharry Nov 2012 #10
They really thought they would win Mz Pip Nov 2012 #11
all good movies Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #12
Anonymous? voteearlyvoteoften Nov 2012 #14
Anonymous announced on the 29th of October, I think... Frustratedlady Nov 2012 #83
Brilliant observation by your wife, PC. I did not see Ann or romney that Cha Nov 2012 #18
I don't buy the vote hacking nonsense RomneyLies Nov 2012 #19
Not to mention Floyd_Gondolli Nov 2012 #35
no, floyd, this thread onethatcares Nov 2012 #40
+1000 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #56
+1001 Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2012 #66
Except there's no mention of any of that Floyd_Gondolli Nov 2012 #70
Maybe that's because it goes without saying? Turborama Nov 2012 #75
+1000 "WE messed up their theft" n/t Beartracks Nov 2012 #84
+100000000000 Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #85
Makes sense too, the said they never expected gains in black and youth vote uponit7771 Nov 2012 #42
that hairdo was angela lansbury in the manchurian candidate elehhhhna Nov 2012 #20
Don't forget - Josh Marshall's Nov 5 TPM post - "This Could Get Weird" NRaleighLiberal Nov 2012 #22
OMG, you're right! renate Nov 2012 #71
Your wife is quite right Stargazer09 Nov 2012 #23
All dressed up and no place to go, except home to bed with little fanfare. crunch60 Nov 2012 #29
That is the PERFECT nickname for Willard. Indpndnt Nov 2012 #76
Mitt is just "Shell Shocked" chuckstevens Nov 2012 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author DevonRex Nov 2012 #30
I have to agree Sherman A1 Nov 2012 #31
Gotta wonder if the BFEE had a hand in this turn of events... PuraVidaDreamin Nov 2012 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Awknid Nov 2012 #60
My theory is they thought the fix was in but then somehow it got unfixed hobbit709 Nov 2012 #33
Or, it could be that they all live within the FoxNoise bubble justiceischeap Nov 2012 #34
It's going to take a bulldozer of evidence to prove to me that the fix was NOT in. nc4bo Nov 2012 #36
Then again, maybe the 99% just had a better ground game and whupped their entitled butts. Hugin Nov 2012 #37
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #58
That's the reason I wanted the poll numbers to show a bigger lead for the President . Arkansas Granny Nov 2012 #41
As a woman, I agree with Mrs. Intern: that hairdo was for a special night. mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #44
Oh, for FFS GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #45
Scoff all you want. Are_grits_groceries Nov 2012 #47
I start from the assumption that they Are_grits_groceries Nov 2012 #46
Here you go: Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #48
I love the part where he says...we are monitoring your servers.....ha! Gin Nov 2012 #64
And SHE was the only ONE that stood out on that stage in the bright RED dress sammytko Nov 2012 #51
K&R It is impossible to underestimate the lengths they will go to in order to seize Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #53
There was always a remote possibility treestar Nov 2012 #57
Well, the Romney's are clearly not used to being denied anything. Greybnk48 Nov 2012 #62
Whatever it might have been, it failed. MineralMan Nov 2012 #63
While I certainly see the possibility of all kinds of shenanigans... redqueen Nov 2012 #65
Victory dress and pageant hair demhottie Nov 2012 #67
I called it "wedding hair" in a post I wrote that night..... msanthrope Nov 2012 #68
Anonymous, anyone? Autumn Colors Nov 2012 #69
I agree 100% StarryNite Nov 2012 #72
I think the moral of the story is that you should listen to your wife ! Marrah_G Nov 2012 #74
"we'll take care of the counting" Matariki Nov 2012 #77
I'm not one for conspiracy theories, usually, but I think a fix was in on this one. It just wasn't Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #81
As a woman I agree with your wife.... Little Star Nov 2012 #82
I noticed that exact same thing. I think she would have changed from her Nancy Reagan Red sheath to Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #90
An extraordinary hairdo, for sure Tumbulu Nov 2012 #87
What if Petraeus allowed Benghazi to HOP on 9-11 providing an October Surprise opportunity for Mitt. Zen Democrat Nov 2012 #88
I think you have a point there 2naSalit Nov 2012 #91
I totally agree with your wife- I could see they were manufacturing consent for a stolen election RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #93
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
1. The incredulous rove remains inexplicable.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:44 PM
Nov 2012

Except of course for the obvious explanation that he was looking for the appearance of the votes that he knew were in the bag to magically appear.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,185 posts)
43. He looks more like Lurch the Fucking Stiff (TM, not me) in that picture than I've ever seen.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:36 AM
Nov 2012

Or a zomney. Looking around for BRAINS! (Why isn't Queen Ann holding his hand? Isn't that the sort of thing one does to show their support for their loving spouse even though he's been rejected by the peasants for being a scheming, lying sack o' shit?)

sammytko

(2,480 posts)
50. They never seem close, even when they kiss
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:21 AM
Nov 2012

He leans into it, or they both do, barely touching. Not like the Obama full body embrace.

Which is weird because I remember he said that the one thing they did every night at home was make sure they walked up the stairs to their bedroom at night holding hands and made sure the kids witnessed this.

Which in itself is strange. Some kind of ceremony like thing. Creepy.

 
92. zomney- love it- you should have come up with that earlier!
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:43 PM
Nov 2012

But I was looking at Ryan- he looks like such a dork! How were people saying he is hot

unblock

(52,273 posts)
3. i think it was clear from the timing of the concession speech
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:47 PM
Nov 2012

that they were going to steal it if they could.

when it became apparent that there were too many states to steal, they gave up.

this also explains the furiousness (furosity?) of the mega donors.
they didn't act like people who understand horses sometimes comes in second, they acted like they bought an sure thing and were ripped off.

rmoney's job wasn't to win, his job was to get it close enough to steal and the state and local ratfuckers would take it from there.

rmoney couldn't get it close enough.

TlalocW

(15,387 posts)
13. I'm not saying one way or another - my suspicions are always that they try to steal
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:38 PM
Nov 2012

But it seemed to me like the concession speech Mitt gave could easily have been a victory speech with a few minor changes.

TlalocW

BattyDem

(11,075 posts)
25. I thought the same thing about the speech.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:14 AM
Nov 2012

That was his victory speech, but they tweaked it a bit after he lost.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
38. Yes, very rehearsed and slightly tweaked...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:23 AM
Nov 2012

First, he freaked out. Oh, crap, what will I say? Then they helped him pick a few lines of the already prepared speech but had to practice it so that he didn't babble on to include the victory parts, lol.

Siwsan

(26,281 posts)
4. When I saw Rove freak out, I knew something went awry with a plan
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:50 PM
Nov 2012

I am convinced that something underhanded was supposed to happen in Ohio, but either it didn't work, or the large turn out mitigated it.

Qutzupalotl

(14,320 posts)
6. I like the theory that goes
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:54 PM
Nov 2012

They planned to steal Ohio, but Ohio wasn't going to be enough to win, so they called the plan off.

Siwsan

(26,281 posts)
8. But, wouldn't they tell Rove, so he wouldn't look like such a fool?
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:57 PM
Nov 2012

Or, maybe they are that angry about the 1% return on their $300,000,000 'investment' that they turned Ohio into the bus under which to throw Rove?

unblock

(52,273 posts)
17. exactly, why risk jail time just to narrow the margin of victory.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:02 PM
Nov 2012

besides, it helps keep the ploy on ice for use next time round....

bluemarkers

(536 posts)
79. that's what I think
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:29 PM
Nov 2012

but since they believed their own press, the ground work wasn't in place to steal VA and FL.

they suckerpunched themselves

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
15. Yep. Given all the attention that was focused on Ohio
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:48 PM
Nov 2012

I think someone got cold feet. Husted had already pissed off a federal judge with his shenanigans and I think he ratfucked KKKarl and chickened out after contemplating the distinct possibility of spending some extended time in the big-boy federal slammer for election fraud. Nobody with even the slightest lick of sense or a glimmering of self-preservation is gonna go to the Big House to cover Rover's ass. Nobody.

Someone figured out that Ohio wasn't gonna matter anyway and said "fk this, I'm not going to jail for Karl Rove."

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
16. We have a winnah!!!! I have no doubt that this is exactly what happened. Of course Ann had her
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:01 PM
Nov 2012

hair all done up, fireworks were ready to go...Oh yeah, a victory party was in the works. No wonder they were all shocked. "It's in the bag, don't worry about a thing, we got our machines in Ohio and Husted is with us."...

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
27. Secret Service is happy, think of all the code names beginning with "J" they would have
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:57 AM
Nov 2012

had to come up with for that huge family that would require their services, Phew, huge saving for we tax payers here. Javelin, Jockey,( discontinue immediately. ) sorry Mittens and Queen Ann, no more entourage.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
26. That makes a lot of sense
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:42 AM
Nov 2012

I had a feeling something was planned, but they could never close it up enough despite the best efforts of FOX and CNN. Plus Nate Silver and Sam Wang made a lot of noise calling bullshit on the horserace gambit. The audience at PEC ballooned into the hundreds of thousands. Flipping votes and corrupting talleys became impossible. They need to hide behind a screen of bogus reporting for that to work. Too many of us were watching.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
86. We will know this if Husted meets with an untimely death in the next couple of years.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:42 PM
Nov 2012

He now knows too much. Can't have potential loose lips hanging around.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
94. They were blindsided by Pennsylvania being called so early, they thought Penn was a done deal.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:58 PM
Nov 2012

I am willing to bet that Husted figured it didn't matter what he then did in Ohio, so he went home without clicking the button.

He wasn't going to go to prison for Rove in a losing effort with two Federal judges watching what he was doing.

If it was close, Husted would have delivered Ohio and Romney would have had the Feds back off of him.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
5. I'd go with the "ire" of the mega donors. Never use a big word ....
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:53 PM
Nov 2012

... when a diminutive one will suffice.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
7. Stealing an election from a sitting President who expects you to try it....
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:56 PM
Nov 2012

is a tad more difficult. I expect the CIA knows (from practice) EXACTLY how elections are stolen and I'd believe they had a hand in stopping it before I'd believe Anonymous did.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
78. Yes!
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:27 PM
Nov 2012

This is my theory! Don't mess with a ninja President, LOL. He wouldn't steal anything, but he'll make sure you don't.

Awknid

(381 posts)
9. I agree
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 08:59 PM
Nov 2012

that they were planning some tricks - the kind Rove is known for. But either someone chickened out or someone sabotaged Rove. I guess we'll never know!

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
10. Maybe they didn't expect the Ohio SOS to come out and say he was going home!
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:04 PM
Nov 2012

Especially after he did everything he could to keep people from the polls.

Mz Pip

(27,452 posts)
11. They really thought they would win
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:12 PM
Nov 2012

The GOP put in plenty of roadblocks to keep Democrats from voting but it wasn't enough.

It's pretty hard to cheat when so many eyes are watching you. Even if they had wanted to they were just too far behind to do anything about it.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
83. Anonymous announced on the 29th of October, I think...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:36 PM
Nov 2012

Plus, Obama's team announced they had over 2400 volunteer lawyers or legal eagles watching the machines and taking care of voters who were being turned away. Husted had his own problems with the courts.

So, if you had all those eyes watching, would you take a chance? Obama bluffed them and they didn't know what to do.

Rove's getting too old and fat to run too fast.

Cha

(297,389 posts)
18. Brilliant observation by your wife, PC. I did not see Ann or romney that
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:22 PM
Nov 2012

night..so didn't know what her hair was doing. I know they did have Fireworks planned for their special peeps at a fancy hotel in Boston.

And, I'm gathering that they really thought they were going to win..not sure why except for that nasty BUBBLE they're trapped in.

I remember being surprised at all of McCain's supporters in Phoenix on election night 2008 who looked in shock as if they expected a different outcome. And, then I learned they actually thought they were going to win, too

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
19. I don't buy the vote hacking nonsense
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:38 PM
Nov 2012

I think they actually convinced themselves they were going to win by altering the polling methodology to unrealistic expectations because they just couldn't buy people coming out in similar percentages as they did in 2008.

Their internal polling was completely off due to this as the campaign constrained the pollers.

 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
35. Not to mention
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:00 AM
Nov 2012

Last edited Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:47 PM - Edit history (1)

This goofy thread is essentially saying all of the strategy in Chicago and all of the work volunteers did in the field didn't amount to anything. Obama won because the other side simply bungled the theft.

Heaven forbid we'd give an ounce of credit to the people who actually made the victory possible.

And the pretense that the fix was in because of the way Ann wore her hair that night is just goofy. Maybe it was intended as satire?

onethatcares

(16,177 posts)
40. no, floyd, this thread
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:27 AM
Nov 2012

is essentially saying that if the volunteers wouldn't have come out and motivated the Democratic vote
to the point of overriding the possible theft, we'd be looking at a whole new ball game.

Understand there are many that believe the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen, I happen to be one of them, and that the past four years enabled the big money to buy the presidency since they also own the voting machines and tabulating hardware.

We give pounds of credit to the people who made the victory possible.

Now it's time to make sure democracy is not a once in four years word.

 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
70. Except there's no mention of any of that
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:43 PM
Nov 2012

Anywhere. Except by you just now. The overarching theme is that we won Ohio only because the other side messed up the theft. Just seems like that diminishes the work of many.

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
75. Maybe that's because it goes without saying?
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:19 PM
Nov 2012

Gratitude has been expressed numerous times all over DU and I think you can take it to the bank that everyone here is very appreciative of the hard work that went on to extinguish the blatant attempts to steal this election.

Actually, the overarching theme isn't "they messed up the theft", it's we messed up their theft.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
22. Don't forget - Josh Marshall's Nov 5 TPM post - "This Could Get Weird"
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:13 PM
Nov 2012


TPM Editor’s Blog
This Could Get Weird

JOSH MARSHALL NOVEMBER 5, 2012, 12:14 AM 16432
Listening to a story from a friend this evening. Guy in a social setting talking to a group of Wall Street heavyweights. Every single one in the room certain Romney wins. Has Ohio locked. Has the whole thing tied up. No doubt.

renate

(13,776 posts)
71. OMG, you're right!
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:09 PM
Nov 2012

I'd forgotten all about that till just now, but I did read that!

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/11/this_could_get_weird.php?ref=fpblg

Of course, it all depends on who these heavyweights are, since they could just have been fooled by Fox like so many of their ilk were.

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
23. Your wife is quite right
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:35 PM
Nov 2012

They honestly expected to win the election.

I had the exact same reaction to the Bush family's TV appearances in 2000 (and in 2004). They were too cocky, too shifty, too sure of how Florida (Ohio in 2004) would turn out. It turned my stomach.

The Romney/Ryan group were dressed up for their victory party Tuesday night. No doubt about it. Romney was so sure he was going to win that he didn't even consider that he might lose.

Fortunately for us, we had so many voters that Rove and company couldn't steal the state.

 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
24. Mitt is just "Shell Shocked"
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:36 PM
Nov 2012

The media keeps saying it. Yeah, no shit he is shell shocked! They thought they would shave 2-3% of the Democratic vote in the key swing states under Republican election control and win. With all the Koch's money and Karl Rove successful steal of Ohio in 2004 (not to mention the blatant, aggressive illegal actions of Jon Husted and Rick Scott) it was in the bag.

There was only one problem: Too many people saw through your lying scheming ass and did not believe you anymore. You had ZERO creditability at the end of the campaign and the proof is when the large automakers (corporations!) called you out for lying you. You simply turned off way too many people in your desperate attempt to lie your way into the presidency.

There is a warning here folks: With a better, more appealing candidate, the GOP would have pulled it off! ELECTION REFORM NOW!

Response to PCIntern (Original post)

PuraVidaDreamin

(4,101 posts)
32. Gotta wonder if the BFEE had a hand in this turn of events...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:19 AM
Nov 2012

If they think their less severe smart son owns 2016. And I don't think they'd think
Twice about throwing Turd Blossum under the bus.

Response to PuraVidaDreamin (Reply #32)

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
33. My theory is they thought the fix was in but then somehow it got unfixed
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:42 AM
Nov 2012

whether someone hacked their fix or someone backed out on deal I don't know.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
34. Or, it could be that they all live within the FoxNoise bubble
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:55 AM
Nov 2012

they believed their internal polling and probably bought into the more Republic leaning pollsters... They convinced themselves that the white vote was enough... that they'd sown enough hatred to get the "black guy" tossed. I think Romney and the other big money people thought, "If you throw enough money at anything, you get it." It's a common CEO attitude we complain about day in and day out on DU.

The bubble that Bill Maher talks about is alive and well. It's not to say they didn't attempt election fraud but I think it goes deeper than vote rigging machines. Even the righties that voted had themselves convinced that Mittens was going to win. It's a psychosis more so than a conspiracy.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
36. It's going to take a bulldozer of evidence to prove to me that the fix was NOT in.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:13 AM
Nov 2012

Something happened in plain site this past Tuesday night. Something weird. Something was off.

Was the only clothing the Romney's packed were a tuxedo and a ball gown? Why did Romney have on an ill fitting suit and a shirt with more creases than an elephant's ass? Why WAS Ann's hair plastered into an updo? Why did they look so shellshocked? Why did it take so long for Romney to concede?

The easiest explanation is the simplest; they were going to do it but the force was against them. KKKarl probably had an epic conversation with Husted and others involved to JUST DO IT OR there will be hell to pay so he had no reason to think his commands wouldn't have been adhered to. Why did Husted take off like a bat out of hell instead of hanging around to the very end?

But they weren't crowned King and Queen and the rest is history recorded on tape from Fox News.



Hugin

(33,169 posts)
37. Then again, maybe the 99% just had a better ground game and whupped their entitled butts.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:19 AM
Nov 2012

Fair and square.

If there's one takeaway from this, it's that Rove's insistance "Money is everything in politics" (Which the 1%-ers were very eager to buy into, because they love nothing else) isn't entirely true.

Don't sell yourselves short Democrats... You did this! Through grit, dedication, and love of your fellow Americans.

It was a win driven from the bottom up instead of the "trickle down" Randian hogwash we've been sold by TPTB for the last 30 years or more.

I for one, am happy I was living during a time I got to see and experience such a thing at least once. It's very rare in human history.

Arkansas Granny

(31,522 posts)
41. That's the reason I wanted the poll numbers to show a bigger lead for the President .
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:28 AM
Nov 2012

A "close election" would be easier to steal.

mnhtnbb

(31,397 posts)
44. As a woman, I agree with Mrs. Intern: that hairdo was for a special night.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:42 AM
Nov 2012

It also fits, though, with the statement that Romney made that he had no concession speech ready--just in case.

It never occurred to them they could lose. They believed all the Faux Noise and BS. No fact checking, no reality,
just enclosed in their bubble.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
47. Scoff all you want.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:19 AM
Nov 2012

They truly thought they were going to win for whatever reason. Ann didn't have her hair like that for a concession speech. When rules of the road people go off track, there is a reason.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
46. I start from the assumption that they
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:16 AM
Nov 2012

are up to something all the time. Just the how, where, and when are up to speculation.

I know that they were planning something. The something got derailed by the number of states in play and what to do. As you can see, Florida was their Ace in the hole again, but it turned out to be a Joker.

Gin

(7,212 posts)
64. I love the part where he says...we are monitoring your servers.....ha!
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:48 AM
Nov 2012

If I was in on the fix.....I wouldnt have done it.....too many eyes on this election.

sammytko

(2,480 posts)
51. And SHE was the only ONE that stood out on that stage in the bright RED dress
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:22 AM
Nov 2012

Everyone else blended into the background. It was all about Ann.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
53. K&R It is impossible to underestimate the lengths they will go to in order to seize
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:27 AM
Nov 2012

or retain power. Lie, cheat, and steal are only opening gambits in their world. SOP.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
57. There was always a remote possibility
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:35 AM
Nov 2012

Have to be prepared for both, and since he hair would be done earlier, I would assume it has to be the same, win or lose. And she would not come out in public without being done up as much as possible, regardless of the reason. So I don't see much in that. But still, they did think they would win and were wrong.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
62. Well, the Romney's are clearly not used to being denied anything.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:46 AM
Nov 2012

They were definitely confident about their chances of winning. Not only her hair, but a huge fireworks display planned in Boston, and then there was the leaked "President Elect Romney" webpage just waiting to go up. Oh and no concession speech written!

I'm not sure anything went wrong with their plan except it being delusional. I think Rove's behavior was pure theater, probably out of fear. I will say this, I HOPE Mrs. PC is right because it would make this win even more fun to know that they even screwed THAT up!!

MineralMan

(146,320 posts)
63. Whatever it might have been, it failed.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:47 AM
Nov 2012

President Obama was re-elected, winning almost every "battleground" state. If the Republicans were deceived into thinking the "fix" was in, the bigger morons they are. Hubris is a poor excuse for failure.

The Republican Party is a failure in 2012. That is the fact of the matter. They failed, even at their attempt to steal the election.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
65. While I certainly see the possibility of all kinds of shenanigans...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:53 AM
Nov 2012

and who knows what kind of creative efforts to counter those shenanigans, I don't think Mrs. Romney's hair was much of a sign. She had every reason to be done up special just because there was any chance at all he might have won. It's like Oscar nominees writing speeches ahead of time: Doesn't mean there's any fix, just that they want to be ready if they win.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
68. I called it "wedding hair" in a post I wrote that night.....
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:18 PM
Nov 2012

Your wife was right...some stylist probably told.her that the dignified matron look would be how to define herself, since she has neither the style nor class of the First Lady.

 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
69. Anonymous, anyone?
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:12 PM
Nov 2012

Didn't someone post a link on here in recent days about the Ohio vote counts mysteriously going DOWN ... not on ONE side, but on both sides?

My own personal hunch? I think anonymous got in there, saw what was in that "experimental software patch" (something to make Obama's counts go down when they used it to "make adjustments&quot and changed the code so that whenever anyone tried to fiddle with Obama's total, it would make an adjustment to Romney's as well.

If that's the case, THANK YOU, ANONYMOUS .... or whoever did this!!!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
81. I'm not one for conspiracy theories, usually, but I think a fix was in on this one. It just wasn't
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:30 PM
Nov 2012

a big enough fix for the landslide that was coming. They fixed only enough to sway a closer vote. And only in OH and FL.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
82. As a woman I agree with your wife....
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:34 PM
Nov 2012

That was a special hairdo. She was already for a celebration without any thought for a possible loss.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
90. I noticed that exact same thing. I think she would have changed from her Nancy Reagan Red sheath to
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:19 AM
Nov 2012

a gown or a far more festive dress, which her hair was meant to complement, before her grand arrival at the peasant-free after-parties.

Tumbulu

(6,291 posts)
87. An extraordinary hairdo, for sure
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:47 PM
Nov 2012

they did think they were going to win.

I put nothing past them. Thanks to all who worked so hard so that their shenanigans did not work this time.

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
88. What if Petraeus allowed Benghazi to HOP on 9-11 providing an October Surprise opportunity for Mitt.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:58 PM
Nov 2012

But it didn't work. It was found out and the legitimate media ignored the hyped "Obama scandal." The FBI investigation uncovered the plot, thus the day after Obama returned to the White House he called Petraeus in to confront him, and told him they also discovered his extramarital affairs during the Benghazi investigation. Then he instructed Petraeus to come back the next day, resignation in hand, and fall on his sword for the one affair with his biographer. Over and out.

I really liked Seven Days in May.

2naSalit

(86,681 posts)
91. I think you have a point there
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:34 PM
Nov 2012

...after all, he was the big general who was placed by Cheney/Rumsfeld and condemned Obama's initial stance to end the wars, as any good general would. (Think; "Generals and Majors" - song from the 1980s "...generals and majors always seem so unhappy unless they've got a war.&quot

I think he turned into a mole for the Rs and what you propose is very much what I was thinking when he was so willing to claim infidelity as the reason for the resignation, and relieving him of the obligation to testify in the Benghazi hearing this week. Otherwise, I think we'd not be in the regional theater at all since about two years ago. He was adamantly opposed to withdrawal anytime during the next decade or two. And I speculate that he was placed at the CIA as a compromise though I don't see Panetta as anything better unless he's singing along until enough war mongers are run out of the game for a massive shift in focus for our country to start minding its own business for a spell. But that's just speculation and I'm not sure how feasible that really is.

 
93. I totally agree with your wife- I could see they were manufacturing consent for a stolen election
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:49 PM
Nov 2012

and was not prepared to put up with that bullshit again but had no idea what to do.

Fitrakis, Palast....or some other super patriots interfered..something happened, I think perhaps a cell phone jammer that stopped the central tabulator manipulation.

I have been thanking God every day since. We really dodged a nuke there.

They are already such hypocritical selfish assholes, if they were empowered into thinking they are the majority...they are already impossible to deal with!!

I am just so grateful they have been told to sit in the corner where they belong.


But we need to remember, the entire corporate media was pushing this neck and neck race, in order to help steal the election.

WE need to do something about this horrible propaganda masquerading as news.
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