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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMrs. Intern has a theory which is hers, belongs to her, and his hers too
To paraphrase Monty Python...
Please allow me to preface this by saying that she's pretty sharp. She picked on the Bush family interview on Election Night 2000 when she thought that Poppy Bush was really nervous and shifty. He knew what was going down th e whole time. For eight years she kept saying, toldja so that night that they were busy stealing the election. Of course, we all knew that after the fact a little bit but. She was suspicious right there at that moment.
so when she saw Ann Romneys hairdo at the concession speech my wife said suddenly that her hair was done as though for an inauguration or victory party, that she had never seen her with her hair up like that and that this was special hair. I never argue with her intuition about this stuff...in fact, I rarely argue with her at all. But that's a story for another day.
I for one think that the fix was in but something or someone stopped it, whether from within or without. It was too weird and while we we watching Ohio, other states may have been planned to be in play but the trigger was never pulled. This would make a great film of the ilk of the original The Day of the Jackal, Three Days of the Condor, or Seven Days in May. Does anyone else see a pattern here?
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Except of course for the obvious explanation that he was looking for the appearance of the votes that he knew were in the bag to magically appear.
malaise
(269,096 posts)What a waste of a hairstyle and some $25,000 fireworks
Buns_of_Fire
(17,185 posts)Or a zomney. Looking around for BRAINS! (Why isn't Queen Ann holding his hand? Isn't that the sort of thing one does to show their support for their loving spouse even though he's been rejected by the peasants for being a scheming, lying sack o' shit?)
sammytko
(2,480 posts)He leans into it, or they both do, barely touching. Not like the Obama full body embrace.
Which is weird because I remember he said that the one thing they did every night at home was make sure they walked up the stairs to their bedroom at night holding hands and made sure the kids witnessed this.
Which in itself is strange. Some kind of ceremony like thing. Creepy.
DollarBillHines
(1,922 posts)God, what a mental picture for the kids.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)malaise
(269,096 posts)I wondered why they weren't even touching - strange folks
RepublicansRZombies
(982 posts)But I was looking at Ryan- he looks like such a dork! How were people saying he is hot
unblock
(52,273 posts)that they were going to steal it if they could.
when it became apparent that there were too many states to steal, they gave up.
this also explains the furiousness (furosity?) of the mega donors.
they didn't act like people who understand horses sometimes comes in second, they acted like they bought an sure thing and were ripped off.
rmoney's job wasn't to win, his job was to get it close enough to steal and the state and local ratfuckers would take it from there.
rmoney couldn't get it close enough.
TlalocW
(15,387 posts)But it seemed to me like the concession speech Mitt gave could easily have been a victory speech with a few minor changes.
TlalocW
BattyDem
(11,075 posts)That was his victory speech, but they tweaked it a bit after he lost.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)First, he freaked out. Oh, crap, what will I say? Then they helped him pick a few lines of the already prepared speech but had to practice it so that he didn't babble on to include the victory parts, lol.
Siwsan
(26,281 posts)I am convinced that something underhanded was supposed to happen in Ohio, but either it didn't work, or the large turn out mitigated it.
Qutzupalotl
(14,320 posts)They planned to steal Ohio, but Ohio wasn't going to be enough to win, so they called the plan off.
Siwsan
(26,281 posts)Or, maybe they are that angry about the 1% return on their $300,000,000 'investment' that they turned Ohio into the bus under which to throw Rove?
unblock
(52,273 posts)besides, it helps keep the ploy on ice for use next time round....
bluemarkers
(536 posts)but since they believed their own press, the ground work wasn't in place to steal VA and FL.
they suckerpunched themselves
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)I think someone got cold feet. Husted had already pissed off a federal judge with his shenanigans and I think he ratfucked KKKarl and chickened out after contemplating the distinct possibility of spending some extended time in the big-boy federal slammer for election fraud. Nobody with even the slightest lick of sense or a glimmering of self-preservation is gonna go to the Big House to cover Rover's ass. Nobody.
Someone figured out that Ohio wasn't gonna matter anyway and said "fk this, I'm not going to jail for Karl Rove."
monmouth
(21,078 posts)hair all done up, fireworks were ready to go...Oh yeah, a victory party was in the works. No wonder they were all shocked. "It's in the bag, don't worry about a thing, we got our machines in Ohio and Husted is with us."...
crunch60
(1,412 posts)had to come up with for that huge family that would require their services, Phew, huge saving for we tax payers here. Javelin, Jockey,( discontinue immediately. ) sorry Mittens and Queen Ann, no more entourage.
malaise
(269,096 posts)LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)pacalo
(24,721 posts)pscot
(21,024 posts)I had a feeling something was planned, but they could never close it up enough despite the best efforts of FOX and CNN. Plus Nate Silver and Sam Wang made a lot of noise calling bullshit on the horserace gambit. The audience at PEC ballooned into the hundreds of thousands. Flipping votes and corrupting talleys became impossible. They need to hide behind a screen of bogus reporting for that to work. Too many of us were watching.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)He now knows too much. Can't have potential loose lips hanging around.
tblue37
(65,456 posts)ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)I am willing to bet that Husted figured it didn't matter what he then did in Ohio, so he went home without clicking the button.
He wasn't going to go to prison for Rove in a losing effort with two Federal judges watching what he was doing.
If it was close, Husted would have delivered Ohio and Romney would have had the Feds back off of him.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... when a diminutive one will suffice.
eppur_se_muova
(36,274 posts)Like fury.
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)is a tad more difficult. I expect the CIA knows (from practice) EXACTLY how elections are stolen and I'd believe they had a hand in stopping it before I'd believe Anonymous did.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)This is my theory! Don't mess with a ninja President, LOL. He wouldn't steal anything, but he'll make sure you don't.
that they were planning some tricks - the kind Rove is known for. But either someone chickened out or someone sabotaged Rove. I guess we'll never know!
crunch60
(1,412 posts)madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)Especially after he did everything he could to keep people from the polls.
Mz Pip
(27,452 posts)The GOP put in plenty of roadblocks to keep Democrats from voting but it wasn't enough.
It's pretty hard to cheat when so many eyes are watching you. Even if they had wanted to they were just too far behind to do anything about it.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)I will not argue with you or her on these points
voteearlyvoteoften
(1,716 posts)They fixed the fix.
(Thanks if you did)
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Plus, Obama's team announced they had over 2400 volunteer lawyers or legal eagles watching the machines and taking care of voters who were being turned away. Husted had his own problems with the courts.
So, if you had all those eyes watching, would you take a chance? Obama bluffed them and they didn't know what to do.
Rove's getting too old and fat to run too fast.
Cha
(297,389 posts)night..so didn't know what her hair was doing. I know they did have Fireworks planned for their special peeps at a fancy hotel in Boston.
And, I'm gathering that they really thought they were going to win..not sure why except for that nasty BUBBLE they're trapped in.
I remember being surprised at all of McCain's supporters in Phoenix on election night 2008 who looked in shock as if they expected a different outcome. And, then I learned they actually thought they were going to win, too
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)I think they actually convinced themselves they were going to win by altering the polling methodology to unrealistic expectations because they just couldn't buy people coming out in similar percentages as they did in 2008.
Their internal polling was completely off due to this as the campaign constrained the pollers.
Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:47 PM - Edit history (1)
This goofy thread is essentially saying all of the strategy in Chicago and all of the work volunteers did in the field didn't amount to anything. Obama won because the other side simply bungled the theft.
Heaven forbid we'd give an ounce of credit to the people who actually made the victory possible.
And the pretense that the fix was in because of the way Ann wore her hair that night is just goofy. Maybe it was intended as satire?
onethatcares
(16,177 posts)is essentially saying that if the volunteers wouldn't have come out and motivated the Democratic vote
to the point of overriding the possible theft, we'd be looking at a whole new ball game.
Understand there are many that believe the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen, I happen to be one of them, and that the past four years enabled the big money to buy the presidency since they also own the voting machines and tabulating hardware.
We give pounds of credit to the people who made the victory possible.
Now it's time to make sure democracy is not a once in four years word.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,843 posts)Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)Anywhere. Except by you just now. The overarching theme is that we won Ohio only because the other side messed up the theft. Just seems like that diminishes the work of many.
Turborama
(22,109 posts)Gratitude has been expressed numerous times all over DU and I think you can take it to the bank that everyone here is very appreciative of the hard work that went on to extinguish the blatant attempts to steal this election.
Actually, the overarching theme isn't "they messed up the theft", it's we messed up their theft.
Beartracks
(12,819 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)TPM Editors Blog
This Could Get Weird
JOSH MARSHALL NOVEMBER 5, 2012, 12:14 AM 16432
Listening to a story from a friend this evening. Guy in a social setting talking to a group of Wall Street heavyweights. Every single one in the room certain Romney wins. Has Ohio locked. Has the whole thing tied up. No doubt.
renate
(13,776 posts)I'd forgotten all about that till just now, but I did read that!
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/11/this_could_get_weird.php?ref=fpblg
Of course, it all depends on who these heavyweights are, since they could just have been fooled by Fox like so many of their ilk were.
Stargazer09
(2,132 posts)They honestly expected to win the election.
I had the exact same reaction to the Bush family's TV appearances in 2000 (and in 2004). They were too cocky, too shifty, too sure of how Florida (Ohio in 2004) would turn out. It turned my stomach.
The Romney/Ryan group were dressed up for their victory party Tuesday night. No doubt about it. Romney was so sure he was going to win that he didn't even consider that he might lose.
Fortunately for us, we had so many voters that Rove and company couldn't steal the state.
crunch60
(1,412 posts)Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)"Little Fanfare."
chuckstevens
(1,201 posts)The media keeps saying it. Yeah, no shit he is shell shocked! They thought they would shave 2-3% of the Democratic vote in the key swing states under Republican election control and win. With all the Koch's money and Karl Rove successful steal of Ohio in 2004 (not to mention the blatant, aggressive illegal actions of Jon Husted and Rick Scott) it was in the bag.
There was only one problem: Too many people saw through your lying scheming ass and did not believe you anymore. You had ZERO creditability at the end of the campaign and the proof is when the large automakers (corporations!) called you out for lying you. You simply turned off way too many people in your desperate attempt to lie your way into the presidency.
There is a warning here folks: With a better, more appealing candidate, the GOP would have pulled it off! ELECTION REFORM NOW!
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Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)I believe the Mr Romney was a placeholder this time and their target is 2016.
PuraVidaDreamin
(4,101 posts)If they think their less severe smart son owns 2016. And I don't think they'd think
Twice about throwing Turd Blossum under the bus.
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hobbit709
(41,694 posts)whether someone hacked their fix or someone backed out on deal I don't know.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)they believed their internal polling and probably bought into the more Republic leaning pollsters... They convinced themselves that the white vote was enough... that they'd sown enough hatred to get the "black guy" tossed. I think Romney and the other big money people thought, "If you throw enough money at anything, you get it." It's a common CEO attitude we complain about day in and day out on DU.
The bubble that Bill Maher talks about is alive and well. It's not to say they didn't attempt election fraud but I think it goes deeper than vote rigging machines. Even the righties that voted had themselves convinced that Mittens was going to win. It's a psychosis more so than a conspiracy.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Something happened in plain site this past Tuesday night. Something weird. Something was off.
Was the only clothing the Romney's packed were a tuxedo and a ball gown? Why did Romney have on an ill fitting suit and a shirt with more creases than an elephant's ass? Why WAS Ann's hair plastered into an updo? Why did they look so shellshocked? Why did it take so long for Romney to concede?
The easiest explanation is the simplest; they were going to do it but the force was against them. KKKarl probably had an epic conversation with Husted and others involved to JUST DO IT OR there will be hell to pay so he had no reason to think his commands wouldn't have been adhered to. Why did Husted take off like a bat out of hell instead of hanging around to the very end?
But they weren't crowned King and Queen and the rest is history recorded on tape from Fox News.
Hugin
(33,169 posts)Fair and square.
If there's one takeaway from this, it's that Rove's insistance "Money is everything in politics" (Which the 1%-ers were very eager to buy into, because they love nothing else) isn't entirely true.
Don't sell yourselves short Democrats... You did this! Through grit, dedication, and love of your fellow Americans.
It was a win driven from the bottom up instead of the "trickle down" Randian hogwash we've been sold by TPTB for the last 30 years or more.
I for one, am happy I was living during a time I got to see and experience such a thing at least once. It's very rare in human history.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,522 posts)A "close election" would be easier to steal.
mnhtnbb
(31,397 posts)It also fits, though, with the statement that Romney made that he had no concession speech ready--just in case.
It never occurred to them they could lose. They believed all the Faux Noise and BS. No fact checking, no reality,
just enclosed in their bubble.
GeorgeGist
(25,322 posts)Hairdo?
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)They truly thought they were going to win for whatever reason. Ann didn't have her hair like that for a concession speech. When rules of the road people go off track, there is a reason.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)are up to something all the time. Just the how, where, and when are up to speculation.
I know that they were planning something. The something got derailed by the number of states in play and what to do. As you can see, Florida was their Ace in the hole again, but it turned out to be a Joker.
Kingofalldems
(38,466 posts)Gin
(7,212 posts)If I was in on the fix.....I wouldnt have done it.....too many eyes on this election.
sammytko
(2,480 posts)Everyone else blended into the background. It was all about Ann.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)or retain power. Lie, cheat, and steal are only opening gambits in their world. SOP.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Have to be prepared for both, and since he hair would be done earlier, I would assume it has to be the same, win or lose. And she would not come out in public without being done up as much as possible, regardless of the reason. So I don't see much in that. But still, they did think they would win and were wrong.
Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)They were definitely confident about their chances of winning. Not only her hair, but a huge fireworks display planned in Boston, and then there was the leaked "President Elect Romney" webpage just waiting to go up. Oh and no concession speech written!
I'm not sure anything went wrong with their plan except it being delusional. I think Rove's behavior was pure theater, probably out of fear. I will say this, I HOPE Mrs. PC is right because it would make this win even more fun to know that they even screwed THAT up!!
MineralMan
(146,320 posts)President Obama was re-elected, winning almost every "battleground" state. If the Republicans were deceived into thinking the "fix" was in, the bigger morons they are. Hubris is a poor excuse for failure.
The Republican Party is a failure in 2012. That is the fact of the matter. They failed, even at their attempt to steal the election.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)and who knows what kind of creative efforts to counter those shenanigans, I don't think Mrs. Romney's hair was much of a sign. She had every reason to be done up special just because there was any chance at all he might have won. It's like Oscar nominees writing speeches ahead of time: Doesn't mean there's any fix, just that they want to be ready if they win.
demhottie
(292 posts)something was planned that failed to materialize.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Your wife was right...some stylist probably told.her that the dignified matron look would be how to define herself, since she has neither the style nor class of the First Lady.
Autumn Colors
(2,379 posts)Didn't someone post a link on here in recent days about the Ohio vote counts mysteriously going DOWN ... not on ONE side, but on both sides?
My own personal hunch? I think anonymous got in there, saw what was in that "experimental software patch" (something to make Obama's counts go down when they used it to "make adjustments" and changed the code so that whenever anyone tried to fiddle with Obama's total, it would make an adjustment to Romney's as well.
If that's the case, THANK YOU, ANONYMOUS .... or whoever did this!!!
StarryNite
(9,456 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)a big enough fix for the landslide that was coming. They fixed only enough to sway a closer vote. And only in OH and FL.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)That was a special hairdo. She was already for a celebration without any thought for a possible loss.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)a gown or a far more festive dress, which her hair was meant to complement, before her grand arrival at the peasant-free after-parties.
Tumbulu
(6,291 posts)they did think they were going to win.
I put nothing past them. Thanks to all who worked so hard so that their shenanigans did not work this time.
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)But it didn't work. It was found out and the legitimate media ignored the hyped "Obama scandal." The FBI investigation uncovered the plot, thus the day after Obama returned to the White House he called Petraeus in to confront him, and told him they also discovered his extramarital affairs during the Benghazi investigation. Then he instructed Petraeus to come back the next day, resignation in hand, and fall on his sword for the one affair with his biographer. Over and out.
I really liked Seven Days in May.
2naSalit
(86,681 posts)...after all, he was the big general who was placed by Cheney/Rumsfeld and condemned Obama's initial stance to end the wars, as any good general would. (Think; "Generals and Majors" - song from the 1980s "...generals and majors always seem so unhappy unless they've got a war."
I think he turned into a mole for the Rs and what you propose is very much what I was thinking when he was so willing to claim infidelity as the reason for the resignation, and relieving him of the obligation to testify in the Benghazi hearing this week. Otherwise, I think we'd not be in the regional theater at all since about two years ago. He was adamantly opposed to withdrawal anytime during the next decade or two. And I speculate that he was placed at the CIA as a compromise though I don't see Panetta as anything better unless he's singing along until enough war mongers are run out of the game for a massive shift in focus for our country to start minding its own business for a spell. But that's just speculation and I'm not sure how feasible that really is.
RepublicansRZombies
(982 posts)and was not prepared to put up with that bullshit again but had no idea what to do.
Fitrakis, Palast....or some other super patriots interfered..something happened, I think perhaps a cell phone jammer that stopped the central tabulator manipulation.
I have been thanking God every day since. We really dodged a nuke there.
They are already such hypocritical selfish assholes, if they were empowered into thinking they are the majority...they are already impossible to deal with!!
I am just so grateful they have been told to sit in the corner where they belong.
But we need to remember, the entire corporate media was pushing this neck and neck race, in order to help steal the election.
WE need to do something about this horrible propaganda masquerading as news.