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So I found this pic of the sign on the front entrance to Southwest Shooting Range.
I then went to their website (google search) and found their FB link:
https://www.facebook.com/SWSA.AZ
They have another homemade sign there, along with this commentary:
And just to make sure there's no mistake, this ad will come out in the White Mountain Independent tomorrow...
OK folks, it's time to take a stand. We will try to demonstrate once again that the bottom line for business is principle, not money. Yes, it has been damaging at times but our values are intact. Effective immediately, if you voted for Obama, your money is no good here. You have proven beyond a doubt that you are not responsible enough to own a firearm. We have just a sign up on the front door to save you the trouble of walking all the way in here....
BTW, this is NOT a gun thread, however I'll not raise a fuss if this thread is moved. That's just how I roll.
Anyway, I think someone didn't get enough love as an infant, cause this is about as childish an act as I've ever seen. Maybe they need some DU love. What do ya'll think?
tanyev
(42,601 posts)SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)that everything is spelled correctly.
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)so that I can avoid doing business with such a dumbass!
Cleita
(75,480 posts)rzemanfl
(29,567 posts)geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)just wow.
The stupid is strong..stronger than ever.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)So thanks for the heads up, Pinetop.
BTW, is "pinetop" his city or a description of the area above his neck?
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)KelleyD
(277 posts)Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)I think it's telling that this asshat's "logo" is very KKK-like.
Methinks this lunatic is very very fwaid of the unwhite.
standingtall
(2,787 posts)So then where are their values in not killing coal mine workers with black lung disease?, or not killing people by by dumping toxic filth into their neighborhoods?
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)But I don't think this clown learned how to think anywhere.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)DirkGently
(12,151 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)....WHAT Federal law has even been proposed by this administration in regards to gun control?
Aristus
(66,446 posts)Guns are for people who are afraid.
I'm not afraid...
So drop dead, you hamhock...
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)and how does one "prove" their vote? so much for secret ballot
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Incitatus
(5,317 posts)and Obama hasn't pushed for any anti-gun legislation. He's the best thing that has happened to gun shops. What can this be but racism?
politicat
(9,808 posts)I went to high school in the next town over. Snowflake, Show Low, St. Johns, Pinetop and Heber are in many ways the remnants of the Mormon diaspora in the 1870s. Those little towns in NE Arizona were founded by Mormon polygamists who were sent away to preserve Mormonism in the face of increasing Federal pressure to abandon polygamy. The founders had survived the Mormon Reformation in the 1850's and 60's-- people fervent enough to survive a religious narrowing and tough enough to survive the series of famines caused by drought and locusts, and they passed that cultural history down. The towns remain somewhere north of 90% Mormon, and increasingly radically conservative.
Those communities have a deep-seated culture of separatism and a cultural expectation of repression. They take a grim pleasure in the idea that they are opposed and oppressed. Heritage '76 (the anti-abortion printers) are based there. My high school history teacher was a goldbug who revered Bo Gritz, taught New World Orderism and conspiracy theories instead of, ya know, American History, and was a survivalist (all whilst taking a government salary with full benefits, natch.) This was in the late 80's, before the Internet became a stellar vector for teh Crazy. I was 15, then, and I spent much of that school year walking out of class, down to the vice principal's office to complain, then to the library to actually study the American History I was supposed to be learning. Went to a lot of school board meetings, too. He was never disciplined, though the agreement finally reached was that I would do my homework, the school librarian would grade it, and I would get credit for work done. I was the only one to pass the AP American History test that year.
That same year, my AP biology class had a project on ecological sustainability, that included building the plans for a 1 acre sustainable human habitat. About half of the projects submitted were walled compounds with bunkers and moats for defense; about half of those had relatively enormous houses intended for polygamy after some sort of apocalyptic end. (Bio teacher was not a survivalist, did teach evolution and the scientific method, told students that the religion discussions should take place at the Seminary or at home. That edict stuck. It helped that he was the football coach, too, and was excellent at both jobs.) High school juniors relished the idea of a Red Dawn future. They learned that at home, in church and at school. When we did college counseling with the guidance counselor, girls were presented with two options - Ricks College (a 2 year Mormon owned and operated junior college) or BYU. Everywhere else, I had to apply on my own - the GC had no faintest clue how to help. That sounds awful, but boys didn't even get that - they would be going on missions after all, and college would have to wait.
The community was and, according to my mother who still has friends there, is still extremely racist. Many never accepted the 1978 revelation. Many truly believed that Native Americans had to be converted as a means of ethnic cleansing by forced assimilation. Until the mid-eighties, kids were still being removed from their families on the Hopi and Navajo (Diné) reservations and force-fostered in Mormon communities. Outsiders of any sort were barely tolerated - especially those who came as representatives of the government (including my father, a civil engineer working on the state highways.) We didn't eat in the local restaurant (singular) after trying once - our food was spat upon and my 6 year old sister's meal was coated with pepper. My tires were slashed/flattened three times, our firewood was set on fire twice, our dog was killed and somebody pooped in my mother's garden. I've been back a couple times since then -- it feels more insular, more embattled, more reactionary. Though I'm white, living there taught me, at least in part, what growing up black in Little Rock or Selma must have been like. In large part, those people are why I'm a liberal and a Democrat.
There's a significant percentage in these communities who want an excuse for a revolution, and another significant portion who may not want revolution, but would tolerate and go along with one. It's fine for us, far away and secure from that prejudice, to say let them do as they please, but there are a few liberals in that region. Before my father worked for the state, he was a Seabee (Naval Corps of Engineers). When he was in the service, his weapons were never in the house. After moving up there, we started keeping them, and I was taught to shoot, because my father assessed the chance for a lynching as possible. (Dad is many unpleasant things, but on threat assessment, he was not paranoid.) Liberals in the area do keep weapons for hunting and self defense. Should the survivalists and wannabe revolutionaries take it into their heads to start something, those few will be endangered. I agree that shooting back won't help, but armed liberals may forestall the shooting from starting.
Most of me fully supports and encourages any of the bitter losers who want to Go Galt. Most of me would help them pack. But I have a fifteen year old girl in me, who wanted nothing more than an education and an opportunity, who remembers how embattled she felt. That part of me worries for those still there.
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)Thank you for sharing and glad you made it out
Takket
(21,620 posts)that the phrase "Your money is no good here" means "i'm giving you a product/service for free because i like/owe you" and not "you aren't allowed to shop here."
derby378
(30,252 posts)...and walk out safe in the knowledge that he just sold ammo to a Democrat, and there's not a thing he can do about it.
He could use the profits from my purchase to buy a box of tissues.
former-republican
(2,163 posts)derby378
(30,252 posts)former-republican
(2,163 posts)It's just to drum up business for their shop and it will work.
Whether you agree with the sentiment or not ( and I don't of course) it's a brilliant business move for the owner.
I don't let little things like this bother me.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)If you've ever seen the movie "The Road", I'm firmly convinced that the gang that imprisons people to eat them for food later.... are composed of people like this.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)dealing with. The Secret Service is shitting bricks over how they are going to assure the President survives his second term. I am nearly certain that President Obama didn't get a single vote in Pinetop. I'll also bet he only got 3 in New River.
Wake the fuck up! We are not one nation. We have not been for years and years and those fuckers are stone-cold crazy.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)They know what will draw customers, period.