Was there really suppression of the vote?

[kentuck]

I think there was.

How else do we explain Obama getting 9 million less votes than in 2008 and Romney getting 3 million votes less than McCain?

In my opinion, the Republicans knew they had a very weak candidate in Mitt Romney and their plan was to suppress the turnout for Barack Obama. They did this, not only with long lines and electoral gimmicks but also, with character assassination. That is their game. They are good at it. That is why they were so confident they were going to win.

In the process, Obama got 9 million less votes than he did against John McCain. However, the Repubs did not anticipate that their extremely weak candidate would get 3 million votes less than John McCain? And how many votes did Obama win by? About 3 million.

So there was suppression but it backfired on the Republicans. If Romney had done as well as McCain, the race may have been much closer?

[DonRedwood]

1. All those lawsuits we won...if we hadn't fought they would have suppressed millions of voters.

[flamingdem]

5. Exactly and that took time and money away from the campaign

as well - but it mostly backfired fortunately

[CreekDog]

11. why is nobody saying "hurricane"?

that's a real thing that affected some areas. PS-it wasn't a conspiracy!

Ohio turnout was up among some groups. Black turnout was off the charts, so was latino turnout around the country.

[The Wielding Truth]

2. Yes.The voter ID's & fixed machines are the most obvious. The indiscriminate purges, robocalls, and

false voting dates.Gerrymandering is always wrong and misleading the public with mass media right-wing propaganda are some more. It did not stop there. Stopping and limiting the routine early voting.

[HopeHoops]

3. There certainly was in PA, but it didn't help rMoney one bit.

[CreekDog]

4. Ugh. You're comparing two different things --final count in 2008 with partial count in 2012

you can't come to conclusions based on that.

come on. you should know this.

you're following the vote, you followed the election closely, how could you think all the votes have been counted already?

[kentuck]

7. How many votes do you think are left?

Are there millions left or thousands or hundreds??

[CreekDog]

13. they say maybe 10 million --they don't know exactly until they count them all!

3 million in California alone!

I think Washington allows ballots to be postmarked on Election day.

Ohio had lots of provisional ballots, Florida had a lot of paper ballots, provisional ballots and last minute ballots as well as ballots not actually cast until Wednesday!

New Jersey is still accepting ballots through Friday for certain voters.

New York had people voting out of precinct in there most densely populated areas.

is it hard to comprehend that the counting is not 100% done yet?

if you aren't going to wait to jump to your conclusion, your conclusion is going to be wrong.

[spanone]

6. yes, and i think that is why there was MORE turnout

[Mc Mike]

8. Good analysis. +1, thanks.

We also got hurt down ballot by the suppression, which is why we still have a repug House of Reps.

[dem4ward]

9. The incredibly long lines in OH & FL more than prove it!

True the Vote proves it!

[CreekDog]

10. no, not a 12 million person drop as you're contending, maybe not a drop at all

“Turnout as a percent of citizens-of-voting-age population will be down this cycle, but, there’s still a chance the total vote cast will be as large or slightly larger than in 2008,” McInturff said.

The pollster also said that 42 percent of the drop in voter turnout on Tuesday is coming from three states hit hard by Hurricane Sandy last week: Connecticut, New York and New Jersey. All three are predominantly Democratic states which President Barack Obama easily carried both in 2008 and on Tuesday.

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/09/15054671-turnout-down-from-2008-too-soon-to-tell?lite

[Filibuster Harry]

12. from what states?

If the # of votes is considerably less than 2008 then where (what states) is the difference? I know NY and NJ were less but are they still counting? And I believe that Florida and Arizona are still counting?

[CreekDog]

14. yes, they are still counting. millions of votes are still outstanding, so the totals are not final

they are considerably less than the finals will be.

CA alone was estimating 12-13 million votes, but only 9 million are in the totals.

WA too has almost half their mail-in votes to tally yet.

OH had a ton of provisional votes to tally and those numbers don't get released until the 16th.

Arizona has a TON of votes to count, some estimate a half million votes.

This adds up.