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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 12:22 PM Mar 2023

Possible reason for the Grand Jury delay... EDIT: Possibly more witnesses to come

Last edited Wed Mar 22, 2023, 01:07 PM - Edit history (1)




I just saw that it appears the Tacopina crap is being reviewed to see if there is a conflict which it appears so. Stormy presented new evidence on their communications. IMO this won't be a long delay or stop the inevitable. The right is trying to say Bragg is hiding this. The Judge will decide soon.




EDIT:


It is not out of the question that after Y'abbott and Costello blurbed, others made a phone call to testify.

Let it play out!

Reid: Sources say that prosecutors have been in touch with an attorney for at least one witness, and they signal that they're leaving the door open for that witness to potentially come back..
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Possible reason for the Grand Jury delay... EDIT: Possibly more witnesses to come (Original Post) Roland99 Mar 2023 OP
Interesting. Could be unrelated reasons, too, Ocelot II Mar 2023 #1
from the BAR Roland99 Mar 2023 #2
But not a meeting right? Email evidence? Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2023 #33
I find the Twitter comments from the Deplorable's predictable but moronically funny at NoMoreRepugs Mar 2023 #3
Wonder why this would this just be coming out now? Hugh_Lebowski Mar 2023 #4
he was brought on in late Jan. Roland99 Mar 2023 #5
Trump sure sucks at vetting his hires. SunSeeker Mar 2023 #10
Chief Inspector Smith wants to keep the Worm squirming on the hook...and his minnows swimming Alexander Of Assyria Mar 2023 #7
This has nothing to do with Smith; he's the special prosecutor Ocelot II Mar 2023 #9
Yes, I digress... All Chief Inspectors take note of how to angle for a fascist. Alexander Of Assyria Mar 2023 #14
Alvin Bragg DaBronx Mar 2023 #16
Fixed, thanks. Ocelot II Mar 2023 #17
It bubbled up in the media this past week.... getagrip_already Mar 2023 #8
Makes sense I guess Hugh_Lebowski Mar 2023 #13
Sorry ... Delphinus Mar 2023 #24
Yes, her name is Stephanie cliffords.... getagrip_already Mar 2023 #28
Almost no one will know who you are talking about if you post Stephanie Clifford (no 's' btw) & the Celerity Mar 2023 #30
But she now uses her given name..... getagrip_already Mar 2023 #31
She's globally known as Stormy Daniels, that genie, for better or worse, isn't going back into the Celerity Mar 2023 #32
What is the Tacopino crap? msfiddlestix Mar 2023 #6
Joe Tacopino is TFG's latest sleazy lawyer. Ocelot II Mar 2023 #11
Thank you for the explanation. Obviously a conflict. Do you think it was designed to delay? msfiddlestix Mar 2023 #25
No, just a sleazy guy who wanted it both ways. Ocelot II Mar 2023 #27
Conflict of interest. SunSeeker Mar 2023 #12
Carp...now the demon will have the latest Kraken sardine lawyer withdraw...get new lawyer..delay... Alexander Of Assyria Mar 2023 #15
Smells fishy to me.. one more thing to delay proceedings msfiddlestix Mar 2023 #26
Wonder if Trump will delay GJ indictment by claiming he now needs new defense representation wishstar Mar 2023 #18
Not so much.... getagrip_already Mar 2023 #20
Doesn't TFG have a whole stable of slimy lawyers with ethical problems standing at the ready? Ocelot II Mar 2023 #21
Makes me wonder if Tacopina could be DISBARRED as a lawyer Roland99 Mar 2023 #19
Maybe not disbarred but quite possibly sanctioned in some way. Ocelot II Mar 2023 #22
By getting them all into a lather now, Bragg will have tired them out by actual announcement. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2023 #23
I'm an optimist. They're waiting for him to get caught bribing, auctioning off secrets, usonian Mar 2023 #29

Ocelot II

(115,858 posts)
1. Interesting. Could be unrelated reasons, too,
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 12:26 PM
Mar 2023

but if Stormy had new information about her communications with Tacopino, that's a wrinkle that might need looking at. He claims he never met with her. Where does TFG get these sleazy lawyers?

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
4. Wonder why this would this just be coming out now?
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 12:31 PM
Mar 2023

Daniels has known all along she communicated with the guy.

Is Tacopino a very recent hire for this case, or?

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
5. he was brought on in late Jan.
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 12:35 PM
Mar 2023

plus the recently uncovered video interview of Tacopina in 2018, i believe, essentially corroborating Cohen's testimony

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
7. Chief Inspector Smith wants to keep the Worm squirming on the hook...and his minnows swimming
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 12:37 PM
Mar 2023

in circles for a few days.

Then reel them all in.

I say…brilliant! What’s a few more days, the battlefield needs to be softened and prepared for the shock and awe moment of the Century!!

Ocelot II

(115,858 posts)
9. This has nothing to do with Smith; he's the special prosecutor
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 12:38 PM
Mar 2023

in the federal investigations. This is Alvin Bragg's case, he's the Manhattan D.A. It's an unrelated state court case in New York.

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
8. It bubbled up in the media this past week....
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 12:38 PM
Mar 2023

A reporter asked him if had a conflict having represented Clifford's in the past, and he denied it.

Could be Clifford's or her lawyers knew he was lying and sent info to the da or court.

It's possible it never occurred to anyone until he lied about it.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
13. Makes sense I guess
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 12:45 PM
Mar 2023

Feel like if I were her, the moment I found out this guy was representing Trump and I knew I'd consulted with him prior (and had evidence thereof) I'd have sent a letter to the Court ... but I'm no expert on these matters.

I suppose it also might not actually be relevant. This case is about Trump and the money ... not really about her specifically.

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
28. Yes, her name is Stephanie cliffords....
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 02:07 PM
Mar 2023

Calling her stormy is like calling Mark hammil by his character name Luke Skywalker.

She is a human person and has a name.

Celerity

(43,532 posts)
30. Almost no one will know who you are talking about if you post Stephanie Clifford (no 's' btw) & the
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 02:59 PM
Mar 2023

thread will likely get bogged down into a discussion about what is the 'correct' name to refer to her by.

you said

Calling her stormy is like calling Mark hammil by his character name Luke Skywalker.


No, as Stormy Daniels is her stage name, Mark Hamill never used the name Luke Skywalker as his stage name. The same goes for a tonne of rappers and singers, or athletes, etc etc.

Would you insist on always referring to The Notorious B.I.G. (aka Biggy Smalls, or Biggy) as Christopher George Latore Wallace?

What about Snoop Dogg as Calvin Cordozar Broadus Jr.?

Cher as Cherilyn Sarkisian?

Pelé as Edson Arantes do Nascimento?

etc etc

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
31. But she now uses her given name.....
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 03:44 PM
Mar 2023

What would you call John Mellencamp? John Cougar?

He went back to his original name.

Celerity

(43,532 posts)
32. She's globally known as Stormy Daniels, that genie, for better or worse, isn't going back into the
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 04:01 PM
Mar 2023
bottle.



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Ocelot II

(115,858 posts)
11. Joe Tacopino is TFG's latest sleazy lawyer.
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 12:43 PM
Mar 2023

Apparently Stormy Daniels also contacted him about representing her in the hush money case (before she hired Avenatti). Tacopino had previously admitted on national television to having a prior attorney-client relationship with Daniels. He told Don Lemon, "I can't really talk about my impressions or any conversations we'd had because there is an attorney-client privilege that attaches even to a consultation." Now he claims he never actually talked to her, but if there was even a consultation he has a conflict of interest because he now represents TFG.

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
25. Thank you for the explanation. Obviously a conflict. Do you think it was designed to delay?
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 01:34 PM
Mar 2023

just devious as hell.

Ocelot II

(115,858 posts)
27. No, just a sleazy guy who wanted it both ways.
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 01:43 PM
Mar 2023

You don't deliberately get into a jam like this just for a few days' delay, and that's all it's likely to be.

wishstar

(5,271 posts)
18. Wonder if Trump will delay GJ indictment by claiming he now needs new defense representation
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 12:51 PM
Mar 2023

Seems possible that prosecutors may have to offer Trump chance for change of defense from Tacopina or otherwise the conflict of interest could taint the whole case if Trump were to claim inadequate or improper representation.

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
20. Not so much....
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 12:54 PM
Mar 2023

This isn't a trial. It's a sitting grand jury. Tfg himself decided not to testify.

His lawyer isn't relevant to the gj deliberations. But would be required to negotiate a surrender to the court.

Until he is actually charged, his lawyer would seem irrelevant.

Ocelot II

(115,858 posts)
21. Doesn't TFG have a whole stable of slimy lawyers with ethical problems standing at the ready?
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 12:55 PM
Mar 2023

Tacopino is only the mouthpiece who goes on TV. There will be other lawyers who have worked on the case.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
19. Makes me wonder if Tacopina could be DISBARRED as a lawyer
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 12:53 PM
Mar 2023

his interview corroborating Cohen AND not divulging that he had email correspondence with Stormy Daniels

Ocelot II

(115,858 posts)
22. Maybe not disbarred but quite possibly sanctioned in some way.
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 12:57 PM
Mar 2023

Just add him to the long list of TFG's current or former lawyers who have lost or at least jeopardized their licenses because it's impossible to represent him without getting his stank on you.

usonian

(9,885 posts)
29. I'm an optimist. They're waiting for him to get caught bribing, auctioning off secrets,
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 02:14 PM
Mar 2023

boarding a submarine, and so on.

Voting for the submarine ride here.

maybe!

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