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Still Blue in PDX

(1,999 posts)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:12 AM Nov 2012

So President Obama won because there are so many young non-white people?

I was watching the news and thinking to myself, "Yeah, there were lots of young people voting, like me, but I'm white," and then it dawned on me. I'm not young. I'm nowhere NEAR young. But my kids are, and they're white, and they voted.

My husband is a semi-old white man, and he's a lifelong Republican (although he keeps his mouth shut about it around me), and he voted. For Obama.

Stupid pundits should just realize that it isn't so much the demographics of America that brought the win to this side; it's that there aren't as many stupid people as Romney and his minions believed.

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So President Obama won because there are so many young non-white people? (Original Post) Still Blue in PDX Nov 2012 OP
They stayed home, perhaps theyre arent that dumb? Puzzledtraveller Nov 2012 #1
I know. I hate the reasoning that LGBT or African Americans or Jews or Hispanics or whoever mucifer Nov 2012 #2
Well said. It was Americans uniting and fighting back. lalalu Nov 2012 #4
Every vote counts, but 59% of white people voted for Romney. yardwork Nov 2012 #5
Actually, as a white Jewish woman, I fall into the "we voted for the President " category mucifer Nov 2012 #8
As a lesbian, I do too! yardwork Nov 2012 #12
You're right. We all did it. nt Still Blue in PDX Nov 2012 #18
What worries me is that they are agitating for removal of suffrage for women, minorities, etc. and I LiberalLoner Nov 2012 #3
Not anymore. Obama and the Senate now get to choose new Supreme Court justices if any retire. yardwork Nov 2012 #7
Where did you see this information? They think they have the power to efhmc Nov 2012 #15
It is another part of the FOX attempt to paint Democrats as "OTHER." WinkyDink Nov 2012 #6
yep laundry_queen Nov 2012 #22
President Obama won because there are so many educated people Coyotl Nov 2012 #9
Obama's percent among white voters matched '92 Bill Clinton kerouac2 Nov 2012 #10
Two old, white Obama-voting folks in this household. OnionPatch Nov 2012 #11
Exactly right. nt Still Blue in PDX Nov 2012 #16
Obama won because of women Quantess Nov 2012 #13
They still haven't got a clue. efhmc Nov 2012 #14
At this point I thought that they will ever find it. BelleCarolinaPeridot Nov 2012 #24
i have 5 young white kids blueknight Nov 2012 #17
Amazing, isn't it? They acknowledged that half of what ecstatic Nov 2012 #19
What Republican heavyweights? Jack Rabbit Nov 2012 #25
good point. nt ecstatic Nov 2012 #30
I sort of disagree with your idea that so-called-heavyweights "sat out" 2012. Quantess Nov 2012 #26
Interesting. thanks nt ecstatic Nov 2012 #29
Smiling, always, because Obama won! Quantess Nov 2012 #33
Demographics usually don't lie. Whites voted for Romney 60-40, but Latinos coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #20
I want to agree with you but the numbers just don't bear us out. dawg Nov 2012 #21
Wife and I are both 49, eldest is 21. We're all white - three PA votes for Obama. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #23
I'm A Middle-Aged White Man, And So Are Most Of My Friends ChoppinBroccoli Nov 2012 #27
That's what I was thinking, too. Still Blue in PDX Nov 2012 #31
Old white voters went for Romney, but young whites went for Obama. reformist2 Nov 2012 #28
Thank you for pointing this out. sibelian Nov 2012 #32

mucifer

(23,561 posts)
2. I know. I hate the reasoning that LGBT or African Americans or Jews or Hispanics or whoever
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:15 AM
Nov 2012

won it for President Obama. No, it was all of us, including older white voters . We ALL worked hard on the campaign. It took all of us together to win. Every vote counts.

yardwork

(61,700 posts)
5. Every vote counts, but 59% of white people voted for Romney.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:25 AM
Nov 2012

Only 41% of all white voters voted for Obama. If it were up to only us white folks, Obama would have lost big. That doesn't mean that our votes for Obama didn't count. As you say, he needed every vote. There's a difference between looking at individual voters and demographic groups. It's no reflection on you and me that 59% of the white vote went to Romney - we represent part of the 41% who voted for Obama.

Don't take the demographic results personally.

yardwork

(61,700 posts)
12. As a lesbian, I do too!
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:56 AM
Nov 2012

But the point, as you say, is that we DID vote for the president. Older white straight Christian men voted for the president, and their votes were just as important as everybody else's. Every vote counted the same.

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
3. What worries me is that they are agitating for removal of suffrage for women, minorities, etc. and I
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:19 AM
Nov 2012

worry especially with the decisions coming before the SC they may win the battle. Anyone else here worried about that?

yardwork

(61,700 posts)
7. Not anymore. Obama and the Senate now get to choose new Supreme Court justices if any retire.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:27 AM
Nov 2012

If Romney had won, then we would have a big worry about new appointments to the Supreme Court.

We do have to worry about voter suppression and outright vote stealing in red states, though.

efhmc

(14,731 posts)
15. Where did you see this information? They think they have the power to
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:15 AM
Nov 2012

reverse the right to vote for women. Even their loving deluded womenfolks would rise up over that one.

kerouac2

(449 posts)
10. Obama's percent among white voters matched '92 Bill Clinton
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:31 AM
Nov 2012

In the run-up to Tuesday’s election, there was much talk that President Obama could be headed to a historically poor showing among white voters, a result that could jeopardize his ability to win the overall popular vote.

And, while Obama did lose white voters by 20 points to former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney (the widest losing margin for a Democratic presidential candidate since 1984) he still won a clear popular vote victory — with a majority of his total vote nationwide coming from white voters.

Take a look at this chart — from the wizards in the Post’s polling unit — that shows the percentage of white voters supporting the Democratic candidate all the way back to 1972.



Obama’s 39 percent showing among white voters matched the percentage that Bill Clinton received in 1992 — albeit it in a competitive three-way race — and exceeded the percentage of the white vote earned by Walter Mondale in 1984, Jimmy Carter in 1980 and George McGovern in 1972.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/11/08/president-obama-and-the-white-vote-no-problem/

OnionPatch

(6,169 posts)
11. Two old, white Obama-voting folks in this household.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:42 AM
Nov 2012

And clear across the country from us, my 83 year old, white mother and stepfather helped Obama win Ohio with their two votes.

Still, even if young, non-white people put Obama over the top, is there something wrong with that? Are their votes not just as valid as the rest of ours? Young, old, white, brown and every color and age in between......Americans voted for Obama.

ecstatic

(32,729 posts)
19. Amazing, isn't it? They acknowledged that half of what
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:20 AM
Nov 2012

Romney said was misleading. So why are they surprised that voters caught on as well?

But it's not just that, nobody wanted to face Obama. The repub heavyweights purposely sat this election out because they knew they had zero chance of beating Obama. The only people running on the GOP side were delusional idiots, Romney included.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
25. What Republican heavyweights?
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:12 PM
Nov 2012

The nine ninnies (or "delusional idiots" as you call them) are what passes for Republican heavyweights nowadays. Jeb Bush is just another ninny.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
26. I sort of disagree with your idea that so-called-heavyweights "sat out" 2012.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:14 PM
Nov 2012

The problem with the GOP candidates wasn't that the reasonable ones sat it out on purpose, it was because they were peer-pressured out. There was too heavy pressure from the teabags, at the time the GOP candidates were getting warmed up. That is based on a lot of articles I have read, anyway.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
20. Demographics usually don't lie. Whites voted for Romney 60-40, but Latinos
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:21 AM
Nov 2012

(by contrast) voted for Obama 75-25. That latter is an astonishing figure, imho, and one I had to pick my jaw up off the floor from reading. Rape-publi-scum will go the way of the Whigs if that little demographic persists.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
21. I want to agree with you but the numbers just don't bear us out.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:22 AM
Nov 2012

The President's percentage of support from white voters was appallingly low, especially in the Southern states. There are, of course, millions of enlightened white voters. But it was other demographic categories that made the difference.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
27. I'm A Middle-Aged White Man, And So Are Most Of My Friends
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:51 PM
Nov 2012

And most of the people I know ALL voted for Obama. My dad is 70 years old and white, and HE voted for Obama. I simply don't know where this whole "91% of white males voted for Rmoney" crap came from. Doesn't seem to square with my reality.

Still Blue in PDX

(1,999 posts)
31. That's what I was thinking, too.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:57 PM
Nov 2012

Edited because I fear I may have sounded bigoted on my first go-round when I said we know the right people.

I meant SMART, not WHITE.

Almost everyone I know, white, black, Hispanic and Asian voted for Obama, although there are some relatives I won't talk about here.



reformist2

(9,841 posts)
28. Old white voters went for Romney, but young whites went for Obama.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:53 PM
Nov 2012

If the Repugs think that white voters are a reliable "base" for the long term, they are tragically mistaken...
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