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demhottie

(292 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:41 AM Nov 2012

A sleeping giant has been awakened



I believe that until this election, many African Americans and people of all races had a view of the United States as being in a very different place in terms of Civil Rights.

BUT three, four, five, six, seven, eight and nine hours in line gives you a long time to reflect and consider the forces at work trying to break your spirit and deny you the right to vote.

The voter suppression attempts will backfire and galvanize People of all races to fight for justice. The Republican Party just redefined itself as unabashedly racist and representing values contrary to the American spirit.

The Republican Party will NEVER recover from this, but this country will move forward. I hear pundits talk about the need to adjust "messaging" within the Republican Party, but it is so much deeper than that.

I believe that they will not be able to talk about freedom, love of democracy and of country without people seeing those lines of voters and how the Republican Party fought so hard AGAINST American values.

I also think it is a disgrace that no one from that party spoke out against these practices and I am disgusted that Romney was aware of them and so confident in the suppression efforts that he didn't even consider the need for a concession speech.

The rest of the world is watching and our push for democracy in other countries will seem hollow as it is, but would have been an outright affront under a Romney presidency.

The repugs finally kicked the dormant American progressive out of our slumber. We're up now and wide awake.
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A sleeping giant has been awakened (Original Post) demhottie Nov 2012 OP
Hear Hear. Well stated. Jack Sprat Nov 2012 #1
This generation's silent majority is silent no more. n/t CincyDem Nov 2012 #2
well said marions ghost Nov 2012 #3
I agree. A big deal should be made of this and we should never forget it. We People Nov 2012 #62
it IS a big deal ! marions ghost Nov 2012 #70
I was so proud of the americans who stayed in line and waited to vote. They are the heroes. southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #4
I am too demhottie Nov 2012 #6
Well stated. They are definitely the heroes in this election. loudsue Nov 2012 #31
Rachel has been following this - she did a great story Merlot Nov 2012 #61
Thanks! I'll go look now! loudsue Nov 2012 #72
Me too. So defiant!!! BelleCarolinaPeridot Nov 2012 #38
And it is a great African American teacher who directed our awareness to the Beloved Community... patrice Nov 2012 #5
You're the 2nd DUer I've seen use that phrase today We People Nov 2012 #60
I learned it from Quakers who use Dr. King's teachings frequently. Our local 99% Movement also is patrice Nov 2012 #66
"The times they are a-changin'" nt cherish44 Nov 2012 #7
I do think you are correct and I do hope that Tumbulu Nov 2012 #8
Should be required reading - nicely stated. wake.up.america Nov 2012 #9
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #10
"The Republican Party will NEVER recover from this," Zorra Nov 2012 #11
I believe the could recover, but they won't recover from 2014/2016 aletier_v Nov 2012 #13
The MSM was trying and failing to put a bandaid on today flamingdem Nov 2012 #17
Voter suppression attempts DID backfire. n/t ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #12
Well said. KNR Lucinda Nov 2012 #14
You said it better than I ever could have. spiderpig Nov 2012 #15
The lines were a bigger story than any other flamingdem Nov 2012 #16
K & R dchill Nov 2012 #18
What does that mean please demhottie Nov 2012 #19
It simply means kick and recommend. dchill Nov 2012 #22
Oh thanks! demhottie Nov 2012 #24
No problem. dchill Nov 2012 #25
Very well put. TPaine7 Nov 2012 #20
As much as I despise marketing and marketers, I think that here the concept of coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #34
The Dirty Seven Rape-publicans... L0oniX Nov 2012 #44
Do you have a link femrap Nov 2012 #47
I don't have a link to a collection of the info concerning those involved but I do... L0oniX Nov 2012 #48
Great....that's all I wanted. Thx! nt femrap Nov 2012 #49
"some girls, they rape so easy"... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2012 #55
"some political careers, they end so quickly". Quantess Nov 2012 #56
...and that's a good thing. L0oniX Nov 2012 #58
Yea ...makes you wonder where he is getting his info from ...his college frat days? L0oniX Nov 2012 #57
finally i can make the observation oldhippydude Nov 2012 #59
Hell, probably last month. nt awoke_in_2003 Nov 2012 #65
those who stood in line for hours and hours liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #21
With women and the young voters, it is a powerful coalition. kentuck Nov 2012 #23
If you have to keep people from voting to win elections, your ideas suck. Beartracks Nov 2012 #26
Hopefully the Democratic Party leadership won't sing us a lullaby rudycantfail Nov 2012 #27
We need to make sure that sleeping giant Piazza Riforma Nov 2012 #28
If they treat voters poorly easychoice Nov 2012 #29
problem is because of redistricting it will be some time before we can regain the South still_one Nov 2012 #30
If we want to fix redistircting we have to take state legislatures! csziggy Nov 2012 #42
Absolutely, not easy though still_one Nov 2012 #46
This isn't the end of the republican party. Blanks Nov 2012 #32
There's a fundamental paradox at work, in that the Rape-publicans typically succeed coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #33
the white (i mean right) wing has been hammering their racism datasuspect Nov 2012 #35
For the last thirty-plus years the Repigs have been devolving. hifiguy Nov 2012 #36
How do we keep the giant awake for midterms? Springslips Nov 2012 #37
Well said TRJuan Nov 2012 #39
I agree. America is getting further and further from the John Lewises of the 60's CakeGrrl Nov 2012 #40
I Can't Wait! Oubaas Nov 2012 #41
Pleased to be part of the alarm clock. Good Morning America! nolabear Nov 2012 #43
Not really brentspeak Nov 2012 #45
The next nominee has to embrace Obama to get the minority vote out. It's very important. craigmatic Nov 2012 #50
are you assuming the next nominee won't be a person of color? demhottie Nov 2012 #51
Who knows who the next nominee will be? I assume it'll be Clinton if she runs. Still I think we craigmatic Nov 2012 #53
I am sick of Republicans and their "real America" bullshit Skittles Nov 2012 #52
The Big Test... JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #54
Well said! K&R avebury Nov 2012 #63
"Never recover"? You forget who remains the Speaker of the House. nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #64
Republicans thought they could sew it up with big money Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2012 #67
VOTE IN OFF-YEAR ELECTIONS!!! EVERYONE! N/T Pryderi Nov 2012 #68
For all those who endured those lines a grateful nation offers... Historic NY Nov 2012 #69
"Father! The Sleeper HAS Awakened!" AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #71

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
3. well said
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:46 AM
Nov 2012


yeah that disenfranchisement "strategy" backfired BIG

Many have had their eyes opened THIS election!

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
31. Well stated. They are definitely the heroes in this election.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:58 AM
Nov 2012

In fact, someone needs to point this out to Ed & Rachel, in hopes that they will recognize these heroes.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
61. Rachel has been following this - she did a great story
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:11 PM
Nov 2012

right before the election. Ended the piece with "this is not how democracy is supposed to work."

It's very good, go to MSNBC and watch the last segment of her show on either the friday or sunday before the election.

She gets it, and tells it.

BelleCarolinaPeridot

(9,609 posts)
38. Me too. So defiant!!!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:29 PM
Nov 2012

The messages sent out on Twitter to people that had not voted yet with the hashtag #StayInLine was REMARKABLE!

patrice

(47,992 posts)
5. And it is a great African American teacher who directed our awareness to the Beloved Community...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:47 AM
Nov 2012

my personal vision of the USA and one that I'm pretty certain is shared by countless others.

We People

(619 posts)
60. You're the 2nd DUer I've seen use that phrase today
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:08 PM
Nov 2012

The vision of "The Beloved Community" should be better known in the wider Democratic party. It also includes the concept of The Common Good, something that is almost foreign to our society today.

So also should the other words of Martin Luther King, Jr. become more familiar within our culture.

Thanks!

patrice

(47,992 posts)
66. I learned it from Quakers who use Dr. King's teachings frequently. Our local 99% Movement also is
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:31 PM
Nov 2012

deeply involved in teaching about and acting upon Civil Rights here in Kansas City.

Dr. King's turn of phrase really works for me, because it speaks of the reality of our heart connections to all humans if we have the courage to love. Those connections are denied by so very much in our social and cultural environments; it's a good thing to remind people those denials are false, in error, wrong and the Beloved Community is very real. It's something I like to think about, because just doing that feels good.

You remind me, though, that it's been a few years since I read original sources from MLK on this topic, something to add to my to do list.

Tumbulu

(6,291 posts)
8. I do think you are correct and I do hope that
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:50 AM
Nov 2012

in two years time it awakens again and we are able to give our President the blue House that we all deserve!

wake.up.america

(3,334 posts)
9. Should be required reading - nicely stated.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:50 AM
Nov 2012

I have nothing against rich, older white guys, but a party, which focuses on these guys is bound to be in trouble. De acuerdo?

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
11. "The Republican Party will NEVER recover from this,"
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:55 AM
Nov 2012
The Republican Party will NEVER recover from this,
The Republican Party will NEVER recover from this,
The Republican Party will NEVER recover from this,
The Republican Party will NEVER recover from this,
The Republican Party will NEVER recover from this,
The Republican Party will NEVER recover from this,
The Republican Party will NEVER recover from this,
The Republican Party will NEVER recover from this.


aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
13. I believe the could recover, but they won't recover from 2014/2016
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:28 AM
Nov 2012

when they repeat the same mistakes.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
17. The MSM was trying and failing to put a bandaid on today
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:04 AM
Nov 2012

Let's not let them ever get away with spreading lies for the Repukes in exchange for money again

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
16. The lines were a bigger story than any other
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:03 AM
Nov 2012

A clear symbol of the desire to take away basic US citizen rights

dchill

(38,505 posts)
22. It simply means kick and recommend.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:21 AM
Nov 2012

(It's a compliment and a congratulation.)



Edit to add: kick means your post goes to the top of the list in the relevant sub-forum.

 

TPaine7

(4,286 posts)
20. Very well put.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:16 AM
Nov 2012

Last edited Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:57 PM - Edit history (1)

And as you say, it's much deeper than the Republicans acknowledge. Talk about "messaging" is insulting—as if the same contempt expressed more eloquently would be acceptable.

Their feigned or real blindness means that they are not about to correct themselves.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
34. As much as I despise marketing and marketers, I think that here the concept of
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:21 PM
Nov 2012

'branding' trumps the concept of 'messaging'. IOW, Rape-publicans have been branded as the party of misogyny and racism and no amount of messaging can counteract that brand.

That it was an African American who succeeded in branding the Rape-publicans indelibly is a final historical irony and one I shall treasure for the remainder of my days.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
48. I don't have a link to a collection of the info concerning those involved but I do...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:32 PM
Nov 2012

have the link to the pictures: 25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md51rxPfMG1qb5h0fo1_500.jpg

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
21. those who stood in line for hours and hours
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:16 AM
Nov 2012

should be commended for standing up for their and all of our right to vote. They helped protect something very precious to all of us.

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
26. If you have to keep people from voting to win elections, your ideas suck.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:32 AM
Nov 2012

Can't remember where I read that. It's a quote from somebody.

=====================

 

Piazza Riforma

(94 posts)
28. We need to make sure that sleeping giant
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:40 AM
Nov 2012

doesn't pass back out before 2014 so there is a chance to reverse 2010.

easychoice

(1,043 posts)
29. If they treat voters poorly
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:40 AM
Nov 2012

the voters vote for someone else.So, Republicans are committing political suicide by angering us.
I live in Washington,we vote by mail on paper ballots and it is working out fine.Once we stop the election drama at the federal level we can get the people in office that are actually working for the well being of our citizens,all of our citizens.
Honest, non-chaotic elections will go a long way toward reaching that end.To do that we need congress to change federal election laws and that won't happen until we take back the house in 2014.We need to start working on the House of Representatives today.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
42. If we want to fix redistircting we have to take state legislatures!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:46 PM
Nov 2012

And hold control until after the 2020 Census is taken and used as the basis for the next redistricting.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
32. This isn't the end of the republican party.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:11 PM
Nov 2012

Hopefully they are weakened. The problem with the republicans is that they are the opposition party. They don't belong in control of congress. They are there to debate the growth of government, so that the government grows at a slow rate. They provide a function, that function does not work when they are in control.

They aren't gone because no other party has emerged. We need to regain control of the house and control both the white house and congress for about ten years and then it will be OK to have another republican president (as long as democrats control congress).

We would be even worse off without an opposition party. We need to push hard in 2014 to get control of the house so that we can get things going back in the right direction, but this is, by no stretch of the imagination, the end of the republican party.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
33. There's a fundamental paradox at work, in that the Rape-publicans typically succeed
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:16 PM
Nov 2012

when turnout is suppressed and the franchise limited. The greater the franchise and turnout, the less relevance as a party the Rape-publicans will have.

Logic says it should command no more than 10-15% of the electorate, with Dems and Dem Socialists battling it out for real power.

But that's in another 15-20 years.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
35. the white (i mean right) wing has been hammering their racism
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:24 PM
Nov 2012

forever, having escalated it and gone beyond the pale since 2008.

that, and the open season on people with spanish surnames (there are A LOT of us) has struck a chord with many americans.

regardless of any media message, americans are fundamentally fair people.

the GOP message of hate has killed them and relegated the republicans to the dustbin of US political history.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
36. For the last thirty-plus years the Repigs have been devolving.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:27 PM
Nov 2012

During the Raygun years they subtly sowed fear, religious intolerance and racism.

The Newt era added fairly open hatred and the real beginnings of a genuinely paranoid mindset.

In the last 10-12 years they tripled down on fear, intolerance and openly embraced flat-out bigotry, morphing entirely into a party of theocratic, xenophobic lunatics that live in the Twilight World of Total Paranoia. They hate and fear everyone and everything that is not them.

This has all happened with the active backing of the 1%ers who have always been the real power in the Repig party. The moderates are gone - they have all been purged with Stalinesque efficiency, or have run into the night. There is no place for the Repigs to go. The paranoid bigots and the religulously insane will never, ever change. As they die off over the next couple of decades there simply won't be enough young people who take the bait. The Republican Party is in an irreversible death spiral. Which is a damned good thing. Perhaps a responsible center-right party can emerge from the smoldering wreckage.

Springslips

(533 posts)
37. How do we keep the giant awake for midterms?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:28 PM
Nov 2012

That's the question that can make all the difference. I hope that they thought about how those toxic leaders got into office while they were waiting in line.

TRJuan

(27 posts)
39. Well said
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:38 PM
Nov 2012

but I won't be happy until they are forced to wait in five hour lines to vote while those of us they want to supress can go to the front of the line. Their time of controlling us is over and they need to recognize it.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
40. I agree. America is getting further and further from the John Lewises of the 60's
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:42 PM
Nov 2012

and the depth and meaning of the Civil Rights struggles.

I think the "powers that be" would love nothing more than a collectively dumbed-down, reality-show-saturated electorate to manipulate, but the GOP in their hubris is taking it too far. And that's a very good wake-up call.

Oubaas

(131 posts)
41. I Can't Wait!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:49 PM
Nov 2012

I'm already longing for 2014 so we can work on cleaning up the House of Representatives.

The Republicans will conclude, after lots of inner turmoil, that their message and goals are not odious enough to offend everyone and develop an even nastier approach to formulating their own extinction.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
45. Not really
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:04 PM
Nov 2012

Obama was reelected with a 50% personal approval rating. That's par for the course, as no President has ever failed to be reelected when he had at minimum a 50% approval. So, it shouldn't be a great surprise Obama beat Romney.

Furthermore, while three progressives were newly elected to the Senate (Elizabeth Warren, Tammy Baldwin, and Martin Heinrich), they were elected in blue or somewhat blue states; there was no real red-to-blue turnover during this election cycle (Scott Brown's term in Mass. being an aberration.)

Also, the GOP has solidified its presence in state legislatures that were previously Democratic -- esp. North Carolina. These states will be Republican gerrymandered for decades.

Also, the House is still Republican.

Finally, while religious right Tea Party Senate candidates Akin and Mourdock crashed-and-burned, younger, non-religious right Tea Party favorites Ted Cruz and Jeff Flake were elected. Both will severely hamper progressive legislation for years to come.

The Democrats performed a pretty good defensive rearguard action during this election cycle, but there was hardly any "progressive revolution".

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
53. Who knows who the next nominee will be? I assume it'll be Clinton if she runs. Still I think we
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:18 PM
Nov 2012

should nominate either a woman or latino.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
52. I am sick of Republicans and their "real America" bullshit
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:52 PM
Nov 2012

we are all REAL AMERICA and the majority of us are DECENT FOLK

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