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For Obama, a Bigger Win Than for Kennedy, Nixon, Carter or BushJohn Nichols on November 7, 2012
It wasnt even close. Thats the unexpected result of the November 6 election. And President Obama and his supporters must wrap their heads around this new realityjust as their Republican rivals are going to have to adjust to it.
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Despite a brief delay by Republican challenger Mitt Romney, and the commentators on Fox News, Obama claimed his victory on election night not the next day, as Richard Nixon did in 1960, or even later, as George Bush in 2000.
And it was a real victory.
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By the time Romney conceded at 1 am, Obama had a 250,000 popular-vote lead, and it grew to roughly 2 million by dawn.
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Obamas win was bigger than John Kennedys in 1960 (303 electoral votes, popular vote margin of 112,827), bigger than Richard Nixons in 1968 (301 electoral votes, popular vote plurlaity of 512,000), bigger than Jimmy Carters in 1976 (297 electoral votes, popular vote margin of 1,683,247), bigger than George W. Bushs in 2000 (271 electoral votes and a popular vote loss of 543,816).
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Significantly, Roves man, George W. Bush won his 2004 re-election run with just 286 electoral votes, and faced serious challenges to the result in the state that put him across the 270 line: Ohio.
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Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid do not need to be reformed.
They need to be strengthened and expanded.
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.....The President and Congress should stand with the people who elected them and reject any cuts in Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid, strengthen Medicare by expanding it to cover everyone, and insist that Wall Street begin to repay our nation for the damage it caused our economy with a small tax on Wall Street speculation, the Robin Hood tax.
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The place to begin is with a project he mentioned just before the Democratic National Convention: amending the constitution to overturn the Supreme Courts Citizens United decision.
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Seeking to amend the constitution to reform our election system is an ambitious endeavor, especially for a president who has just beaten the combined power of Karl Rove and his billionaire boys club.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/171085/obama-bigger-win-kennedy-nixon-carter-or-bush
speedoo
(11,229 posts)Yes?
patrice
(47,992 posts)very very dicey process. Do we have that kind of time? Those resources? Can we afford to ignore other pressing issues in order to focus on a "movement" to amend? How will super PAC money affect the development of such a "movement"?
From the article linked in OP:
"Seeking to amend the constitution to reform our election system is an ambitious endeavor, ESPECIALLY (my emphasis added) for a president who has just beaten the combined power of Karl Rove and his billionaire boys club."
I, for one, am wondering how you abridge 1st amendment rights of persons who happen to be corporations. Don't our arguments against the sort of thing created by DOMA, i.e. a permanent legally discriminated against underclass, apply here too? For this reason and others, I think we should do an "end run" and work on voting reforms that include national voting guides of the type used in Oregon and instant-runoff, hand-marked paper ballots, counted in public, in order to ensure the vote audit trail.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)and so is overturning citizens united.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)which will take new justices....of which we may get 3 in the next 4 years. It will also take an appropriate case wending its way through the justice system to be decided by a new Supreme Court. May take years. Edited to add: a different Court could change it back too
It might be easier to pass an amendment: that decision is unpopular with people on both sides of the aisle (politicians not so much). While we are at it, we should tack on Federal standardized requirements for voting procedures, etc. to prevent the mess the 50 different states have concocted between them. No more changing the laws right before an election, or making it harder for citizens to exercise their constitutional rights. No more day-long waits (people voting at 1:45 a.m.? WTF?) or Secretaries of State for either party who can swing an election with their shenanigans. A national holiday for election day would be good too, or nationwide mail-in ballots.
And while we're at it, Virtual Run-Off voting and limiting elections to 90 days! That's as much as any sane person needs to make a decision, or put up with.
OK, that's enough for now.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)about how that money could have been better spent for education,computer lab upgrades,for college scholarships and more..For medical research for cancer or cardiology research..and hundreds if not thousands of more projects those millions of dollars could have sponsored..Its shameful....
But yet the billionaires just shrug their shoulders and say "oh well"
But then when we have an ongoing fundraiser for seizure research there has to be arm twisting to get a few thousand dollars contributed by these guys....
Yes its just selfish and shameful
Horse with no Name
(33,957 posts)Obama needs to get out in front and DECLARE a mandate.
Take the wind out of their sails before the meme sticks.
Care Acutely
(1,370 posts)I thought it was obvious, what was coming. I expected a landslide.
Rock on, Mr. President, rock on.
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)in spite of voter suppression.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Thanks for posting it, amborin.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Very realistic look. K&R
toby jo
(1,269 posts)"Wow, I am really shocked. I thought it would be a landslide for Romney. I mean, what are people thinking?"
I tried to tell him. The funniest thing was when I said the economy was in free fall at the end of Bushs' term. No it wasn't he said.
There ya go.
ananda
(28,885 posts).. the rich corporate interests.
All that gerrymandering you know.
I guess everyone knows by now that the Dems would have won the House without the ridiculous gerrymandering in states like Pennsylvania, Texas, and others.
moriah
(8,311 posts)Even in areas that are strong Democratic strongholds here in the state -- the district that includes Pulaski County, Little Rock itself -- the Republican candidate was spending a TON of money trying to win on local airwaves, and had a *very* focused message. I don't recall hearing a single ad for the Democratic candidate.
Though, we *did* almost pass medical MJ -- the closest I think any Southern state has come to doing so. So maybe there's some hope.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)This will mark the first time since Reconstruction that all of Arkansas's representatives will be Republicans! Argh!
And on top of that, the R's will control the state senate, and possibly the lower house as well.
One reason why my enthusiasm for this election has been seriously dampened.
And now I'm worried that we'll get another Huckabee in two years when Bebee will be ineligible to run for a 3rd term.
mountain grammy
(26,658 posts)Mr. President, get out there and take control.. they got a "shellacking."
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)VPStoltz
(1,295 posts)And those PRICKS said it wasn't a mandate.