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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI don't want to give them any helpful advice, but here's another bizarre/telling thing about Romney
and McCain. They both acted like complete dicks during their whole campaigns, lying, being arrogant, flip-flopping seemingly daily, etc etc etc, but once they lost, they both actually delivered conciliatory, statesman-like speeches. Whether they believed the sentiments of what they said is another issue. Again, not that I would want to help them in the LEAST, but I think if they'd behaved all along like they each did at the end, they might not have gotten their asses kicked. But I think this is just part of the hubris and arrogance of the Repuke leaders. They just-don't-get-it.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The problem is that most people are decent.
codjh9
(2,781 posts)rape is rape.
Flashmann
(2,140 posts)But what about legitimate belligerence??......
renate
(13,776 posts)... he might have had a shot.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)They like their leaders to say things which are factually incorrect because they know it annoys liberals.
codjh9
(2,781 posts)and we all know they prefer to 'select' what is 'true' and what isn't anyway.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)I hope to hear many more, actually.
Mr.Bill
(24,334 posts)before and after the elections.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)codjh9
(2,781 posts)nice little acting job at the end.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)codjh9
(2,781 posts)it right there...
gordianot
(15,247 posts)I wondered if Obama's offer to talk with Romey was a backhand slap a McCain. If nothing else maybe Obama could find out what Romney was talking about if it is off the record.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."
-- Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.
McCain has been bitter the entire 4 years. I gave McCain credit with his speech, but I won't make that mistake with Romney until I see how he acts the next 4 years.
SubgeniusHasSlack
(276 posts)I didn't buy a syllable of it .
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,898 posts)If you think thats the epitome of Republican class, contrast Romneys defeat speech to that of John McCain, in 2008. Whatever you think of McCain, he didnt sit around stewing forever before getting on the horn with his opponent. And when he stood before his supporters, he shushed the members of his constituency who tried to boo their new president, and instead offered Obama his respect for his ability and perseverance in inspiring the hopes of so many millions of Americans who had once wrongly believed that they had little at stake or little influence in the election of an American president. McCain said he admired Obama and applauded him, and he ended by saying, I hold in my heart nothing but love for this country and for all its citizens, whether they supported me or Sen. Obama.
Romney, on the other hand, merely managed to grunt out that the Obama campaign deserves congratulations and I wish all of them well. He then moped that I so wish that I had been able to fulfill your hopes to lead the country in a different direction, but the nation chose another leader, and ominously declared that Ann and I join with you to earnestly pray for him and for this great nation. It seemed as tired and halfhearted as a little league player muttering, Good game. Good game. Good game, to the winning team before heading to the showers.
He wanted it to be different, and hes praying for you, America. That is not gracious. What it is instead is a pretty typical Romney, a man who would arrogantly refuse to entertain the notion of defeat and then grind in his heels and refuse to accept it for as long as possible. A man who would pout that his wife would have made a kickass first lady, who thanks men for their tireless work and wives for picking up the slack. That was your glimpse, Tuesday night, of what your President Romney would have looked like. And maybe it doesnt sound gracious to say so, but thank God thats the last look well have.
Also, I think Romney was even more dickish throughout the campaign than McCain. McCain's dickishness was basically of the get-the-hell-off-my-lawn variety. He was the crusty, crabby, impatient old guy who was having to go through some shit he didn't like, and was increasingly aware that his VP choice was a disaster, which made him even crabbier. Mittens, on the other hand, was dickish in the way only a .001-percenter can be. He didn't like to answer questions or be otherwise importuned by the little people. He bullied everybody, was even ruder to the President during the debates than McCain was, and showed by everything he did and said that he felt the presidency was owed to him because of his awesome Romneyness. I don't think I remember a presidential candidate as utterly dickish as Romney (though Nixon came close).