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by MATT GERTZ
The National Rifle Association said they were "all in" on the 2012 election. They lost. Now it's the media's responsibility to stop portraying them as an invincible electoral juggernaut.
The media has warned for years that strengthening gun violence prevention laws is impossible because of the political power of the gun lobby. This claim was always flawed; studies show that the NRA and its allies do not wield outsized power, and common sense gun policies are favored by large majorities of Americans and even, in some cases, NRA members.
But yesterday's election results provide incontrovertible evidence that the media's portrayal of the politics surrounding the gun issue has been inaccurate.
The NRA's mantra throughout the election season was that they were "all in" to defeat President Obama. In his cover story for the election issue of the NRA magazine America's First Freedom, executive vice president Wayne LaPierre urged readers to "send President Obama his walking papers," writing, "This is it. We're down to the wire. It's now or never, victory or defeat. The time for talking is over. On Election Day, Nov. 6 -- only a month from now -- Americans will vote either to defend or surrender freedom in the most consequential national decision in U.S. history."
The NRA backed up LaPierre's words with more than $11 million in often misleading television, radio, and digital ads, direct mail, and other election spending attacking Obama and supporting Mitt Romney, with much of the spending earmarked for swing states.
On Election Day, President Obama was re-elected, winning at least 303 electoral votes and a majority of the popular vote.
The presidential election was not the only race where the NRA failed to elect their candidate.
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http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/11/07/what-the-nras-all-in-failure-means-for-the-medi/191205
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Just pull the trigger.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)directly or indirectly.
bongbong
(5,436 posts)"I need my Precious to protect myself from those raging hordes of n-----s, I mean thugs, who want free stuff! Just like Fox told me!"
liberalhistorian
(20,819 posts)getting ready to come up here and into this thread, lol!
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)I can't get a pizza here that quick!
eqfan592
(5,963 posts)If you can't keep it to specifics, then your entire point is marred to begin with. I think most of what we have on the books is indeed "common sense" enough.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)Let's keep this in perspective.
eqfan592
(5,963 posts)That's all the perspective i need when reviewing the article you posted.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)and the myth that "liberal gun-grabbers" were gonna come into the homes of every Ohioan to confiscate the rifles and shotguns of farmers, hunters, and sportsmen, indiscriminately, if they allowed Senator Sherrod Brown to stay in office...that is the humongous "logical fallacy" that has been used without scruple by the NRA-ILA to grab power for the right wingers!
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Doesn't it embarrass you that you are defending a group whose sole purpose seems to be electing Repukelikcons while you are on a Democratic board?
eqfan592
(5,963 posts)I'm talking about civil liberties, and about the logical fallacy being used in the article the OP linked, not about the NRA.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)The NRA went all in and got clobbered. Now, the media needs to stop treating the false assumption that gun control is an unwinnable battle as if it were fact. Particularly now with Bloomberg stepping up to with his new PAC.
30,000 people die every year from gunshot wounds. Gun control is an important issue, and surveys consistently show that most Americans support common-sense gun restrictions.
eqfan592
(5,963 posts)Does the fact that they support common-sense gun restrictions also mean they believe we need MORE gun restrictions? No, it doesn't.
I find the violent crime rate as a whole to be what we should be targeting, and not the implement.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)a rate far higher than any other first-world country, common sense dictates tighter gun laws than the status quo.
theKed
(1,235 posts)and they lost, doesn't that mean they are now out? Put your cards down, and walk away from the table. You have no chips left.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)As for political memes, they will probably just make the President's skin a little darker in the next mailer.
sarisataka
(18,819 posts)The NRA went "all-in" but no one cared.
Outside of Brady and others who live for gun control, there are so many issues above it that only about six people in the country gave a rat's ass what the NRA said.
As an NRA member I never bought into the "he's coming for your guns" BS and neither did the vast majority of gun owners I spoke with. Obama speaking the supporting the plank at the debate was a scary moment but it remained a non-issue. I have not heard of one 2A supporter or opponent who changed their vote in either direction over gun control.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Not to mention advertising/promoting lethal weapons in more and more places. The NRA's promotion of more guns in more places is bad enough, but the promotion of beating Obama and other good Democrats through the NRA's closely controlled political action committee is really bad for society.
sarisataka
(18,819 posts)to change the NRA leadership. I believe it is only about 10% of the 4 million +/- members actually vote for NRA leadership. If we can mobilize those of us who are liberal/moderate, we can send LaPierre et. al. packing (pun intended) and shift the NRA-ILA away from RW support to actively supporting gun control which will have an effect on crime rates.
I have no problem with their opposition to 'feel good' laws that will not have any beneficial effect on crime or gun related deaths. In the same vein, I would oppose a social program that spends money without any real benefit to the people it is supposed to help.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)If a true progressive push were started, the NRA would have a membership drive and paint Obama and Democrats as worse than they do now. The NRA is right wing. To hope they become progressive when their purpose is to promote guns, is a waste of time. It's like hoping the TParty bans racism, toting guns for intimidation, etc. -- ain't gonna happen.
sarisataka
(18,819 posts)change from within will be an uphill battle and I am not too optimistic. My hope is Obama remains basically neutral on guns, putting proof to the lies NRA propaganda. The moderates will hopefully get sick of the doom predictions that are not happening and decide to make the change.
On the good side Tea Party candidates got their elephant asses handed to them (though we are stuck with Bachmann still). Hopefully it take the wind out of their sails and they all can crawl back into whatever moldy holes them came from.
eqfan592
(5,963 posts)Pres. Obama made no serious move against the rights of gun owners, and in fact expanded them, thus making the NRA meme difficult to swallow for those even being remotely objective.
Of course, that all changes if we actually do start going after the rights of gun owners.
The argument being made in the OP reminds me of people who argue that we should stop vaccinating people because people no longer catch those diseases anymore.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)If we wait another decade, there will be another 100 million guns in the hands of TPartiers.
That's not good for society, and will just make it tougher biting the bullet to stem the flow of newly manufactured lethal weapons (which is what the pro-gun crowd, especially those who profit from guns, hopes for).
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)The House is still in the Repukes hands, no gun control laws will be coming from there, and Sen. Majority Leader Harry Reid is a strong supporter of RKBA and he will never allow any gun control laws to come up for a vote, so, tell us how more gun control is going to happen now?
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)glacierbay
(2,477 posts)To make Hoyt scurry away is to shine the light of facts and logic.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,495 posts)should be banned from DU. Enough.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Bless the NRA's little heart... it's such an adorable little non-profit 501(c)(4) lobbying group.