If Romney loses, count this as the first shot fired in the GOP civil war.

[WilliamPitt]

"If I hear anybody say it was because Romney wasn't conservative enough I'm going to go nuts. We're not losing 95% of African-Americans and two-thirds of Hispanics and voters under 30 because we're not being hard-ass enough."

-- Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), quoted by Politico, saying that demographics would be the only reason for a hypothetical Mitt Romney loss Tuesday.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/11/05/quote_of_the_day.html

Incoming.

[erik satie]

1. They're also losing

women, Jews, Catholics, Muslims, atheists, people with higher education, people in urban areas and just about anyone who has half a brain and isn't a religious fundamentalist or racist.

[slampoet]

13. And every organic farmer, a good percent of small business owners, and anyone who has lost a home

due to hurricane or foreclosure.

[Patiod]

21. Actually, I talked to someone while I was out canvassing yesterday

who blames Obama for not getting enough help to underwater mortgage homeowners like herself.

I really couldn't argue, but told her it was unlikely that Romney would do anything at all that would help regular people over banksters, but she was still angry.

Fortunately, she said her big focus was women's issues, so she was voting Obama, but she said we had lost her husband. (We would have lost her kids, but like 75% of the under-21 voters on my canvassing list, they hadn't applied for absentee ballots or hadn't gotten them mailed in by the deadline)
.

[slampoet]

35. I had a small business when Obama started.

We were a critical success and made money at a time when 90+% of new small businesses in our area were not. But we could have worked out well if there was just a small 10k loan to get us our own storefront.

Bush never gave it to us, nor Obama and now I don't run a business anymore, not because I still couldn't make money at it, but because it isn't worth running if all the jobs it makes in the world are 1 plus a little part time for an assistant.

But I voted Obama because this isn't all about me, and Bush was what really sunk us.

[lunasun]

14. what LGBT person of any age or color would vote Pug this year?????

[Raster]

15. The Log Cabin Self-Loathing Republicans

[WhollyHeretic]

2. I think there is a real chance of a party split. The rigidness of the party has been helpful to them

in some respects but it also means they will end up breaking not bending.

[Horse with no Name]

3. I am not certain it would be considered a split

I think that the teapartiers and all they represent will just be pushed back down to the fringes like they always have been and their relevance removed.

[AlinPA]

10. What's to split?The party is now one big group of teabaggers, racists,and religious fundamentalists.

Will the racists back away from the teabaggers?

[KittyWampus]

17. You forgot the greedy uber-wealthy. Teabaggers, racists, fundies and greedy.

[AlinPA]

30. Correct. I don't see them splitting because they need each other.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. The civil war has been low intensity

It will become obvious. Will they kick the crazy uncle out again, like they did to the John Birchers? Fun fact, the John Birch and the Tea Party are a product of the Koch family.

[Horse with no Name]

7. Did Koch fund Larouche? n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Yup, very early on.

[Horse with no Name]

16. I don't know why this doesn't surprise me

they have had their filthy hands in the cookie jar for a long time.

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. All the way back to the plot against FDR

So have the bushes, the Fords until the 1950s or so...

They are the crazies that Ike was so dismissive off. The General would not be laughing now.

[malaise]

9. A profound observation

Boycott the Kochs

[grantcart]

5. It will come down to a battle of the Numbers Clique versus the We Don't Need No Damn Numbers Clique.

[alcibiades_mystery]

6. The first shot was Christie, last week

This is Graham taking Christie's side against the conservative extremists. Steve Schmidt was on it this morning as well, blaming the conservative extremists for costing the GOP the Senate. What you're witnessing is the emerging bloc of the GOP semi-moderates reasserting themselves in an organized fashion. Essentially, these are the people who pleaded with the rank and file to nominate Romney. The rank and file conservative extremists got their revenge by making Romney take seemingly endless and openly contradictory conservative positions in order to secure the nomination. The moderates are going to start hitting back, and hard, and the Tea Party is going to get crushed to pieces. When Graham signs up for the moderates in the civil war, the extremists are really out there with their dicks in the wind.

[AlinPA]

11. There are not enough "moderates" in the GOP to fill up a Boeing-737.

[GitRDun]

8. Believe me, they are not too far from

losing us middle aged white guys too!

We live in a world that looks like the malls we shop in, the streets we live on.

Maybe some would say I am too optimistic, but it's long been my feeling that the younger generation is leading on this issue.

How long will a majority of the these middle aged white guys tolerate a party who denigrates his friends, neigbors, friends and spouses of his children, etc.

Their days as a viable governing plurality are numbered.

[Horse with no Name]

20. I went to a baby shower that had an old white racist grandmother there

whose grandchild is having a biracial baby.

She was told that she was "either on board all the way" or out of the picture. Nothing in between.

Apparently, she is on board all the way because nothing is going to keep her out of the life of her grandchild OR her first great-grandchild--even her antiquated racial views.

[GitRDun]

25. AWESOME!

I rest my case! The kids will get us all there eventually. We're not there yet, but these dads, grandfathers who grew up in another world love their kids and grand kids. There is nothing like that love that is better for stripping away a fear that is nothing more than a hatred learned in a bygone era.

[justiceischeap]

19. I think Graham realizes that if his "party" continues on this course

he will become an endangered species. Slowly, real conservatives and moderates are being pushed out of the party by the Tealiban. Some of the smarter Republics are seeing the writing on the wall. Hell, even hateful Ann Coulter stated some time ago that if the party doesn't become more inclusive, it will never be able to win.

[global1]

22. Just Curious - Has The Repug Party Worked To Help Teabaggers Or Have They Just Given Them....

some lip service. I think the Teabaggers did more harm to the Repug party than good and if I were a Repug I would work to rid them from the party. They were a nuisance that I think dragged down the party.

Just wondering if the mainstream Repug party would be happy to see them go?

[lpbk2713]

23. The preemptive pissing and moaning begins. It will be non-stop for days.

They no doubt have a laughable list of pitiful excuses why they lost so badly as long as your arm already prepared.

[hifiguy]

24. The Republican Party is now a Frankenstein movie.

They created this monster, which is now blind yet immensely angry and strong and is slowly destroying the Baron's castle that is the Repuke party. They have two choices - kill the monster before it destroys the castle completely and brings it down around their heads, or blow up the castle themselves and run like hell, hoping that they get away and the monster gets killed.

They are completely fked either way.

The 1%ers created and revved up the bigot/tealiban/fundy wackadoodle wing thinking it would somehow benefit them. Which proves the 1% ain't near as smart as we sometimes give them credit for being.

[mick063]

26. Above post = homerun

It all starts with folks becoming disenfranchised with Fox leading them down the path of political failure. When demographics dictate that Fox must change, then the GOP can move back toward the middle.

It appears that Graham has intiated the Hannity/O' Rielly purge.

[WilliamPitt]

29. They're not smart. Most of them were born on third base.

That's a nice way to get started.

Sounds familiar...

[Enrique]

27. Lindsey Graham is going to go nuts

because that is exactly what they are going to say.

[grasswire]

28. something wicked this way comes, according to Fineman

He has spent his career studying the rise of the southern whites in politics, he said last night. He said that if Obama wins, the gust of ugly racism is going to overwhelm the red states in a mighty wind of fear and loathing. He was quite stern about what lies ahead for this country. It won't be bipartisanship unless some strong real Republicans emerge.

[Budee]

31. Gramham not well liked by rethugs

Sen. Lindsey Graham doesn't speak for conservatives. They don't like him. Just sayin.

[Zorra]

32. They can secede. Everyone with a heart and at least half a brain will be ecstatic if they do.

Dear Sen. Graham: Please, secede. Do it. Just do it! Go for it. Please. Pretty please. We don't mind! Go. Just go! Go away! We won't argue! Go!!!


We'll even take up donations, I'm sure we could raise billions in a few days to help start your fledgling GOP idiocracy. I'll swear I'll even pitch in 3/4 of my life savings just to see you and your greedy GOP ilk out of my life and our country forever. Truth. Please go, please secede. Please, I beg you.

See ya! I don't mean to be unfriendly...oh hell yes, yes I do, don't y'all ever come back now, ya hear?

[HopeHoops]

33. I've got a loaded clip for my 20 gauge shotgun.

I doubt it will come to that (Republicans are lazy), but I'm ready.

[Posteritatis]

34. I totally expect them to think it's because of insufficient conservatism

They'll do another purge and go even wackier for the next few years, and the cycle will repeat.

It'll be great.

[el_bryanto]

36. Jesus - well Lindsey Graham isn't really representative of the tea party base

They are going to proclaim Romney as insufficiently conservative and proclaim that a real conservative would have won.

Bryant