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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSlate: Why Do White People Think Mitt Romney Should Be President?
There is a real, airtight bubble in this election, but it's not Obama's. As a middle-aged white man, in fact, I'm breaching it. White peoplewhite men in particularare for Mitt Romney. White men are supporting Mitt Romney to the exclusion of logic or common sense, in defiance of normal Americans. Without this narrow, tribal appeal, Romney's candidacy would simply not be viable. Most kinds of Americans see no reason to vote for him.
White people don't like to believe that they practice identity politics. The defining part of being white in America is the assumption that, as a white person, you are a regular, individual human being. Other demographic groups set themselves apart, to pursue their distinctive identities and interests and agendas. Whiteness, to white people, is the American default.
Yet Mitt Romney's election strategy depends on the notion that the white vote is separate from the rest of the vote, and can be captured as such.
Republican campaigns have been using dog-whistle signals for so long that they seem to have forgotten how to make sounds in normal human hearing range. Mitt Romney appears to be running on the message that first of all, Obama hasn't accomplished anything, and second of all, he's going to repeal all the bad things that Obama has accomplished.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/scocca/2012/11/mitt_romney_white_vote_parsing_the_narrow_tribal_appeal_of_the_republican.html?google_editors_picks=true
AaronMayorga
(128 posts)budkin
(6,714 posts)heppcatt
(212 posts)jsr
(7,712 posts)brewens
(13,620 posts)as they could ever get from a Democrat, especially a black one. They are terrified the next one might not be so nice. There is no way they can tolerate him being seen as a success.
That's why a lot of them propagate all the racist dog whistle stories. They don't really believe all that crap but can work it like magic on uneducated low income white people.
redStateBlueHeart
(265 posts)They're playing on the fears/sentiments of the base...gotta throw 'em a bone once in a while, eh? My brother and I were talking about this recently, about George Wallace and his "Segregation now and forever blah blah". I doubt the dude was actually that passionate about the whole thing, but he wanted to score points with all those fabulous Southern racists. Either way, you've got a base that's not so bright and pandering politicians who have no moral character.
On to the point: I think a lot of them, high-ranking officials and TPTB included, don't really have that big of a problem with a Black man being successful...as long as doesn't become more successful than them, that is. And president is pretty much the highest status you can get in this country. Thus, we get a Republican party that's gone frothing-at-the-mouth batshit insane.
NashvilleLefty
(811 posts)white man. And I am proud to be supporting and voting for Obama.
Bucky
(54,065 posts)Fuck demographics. I'm a person, not a category.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)I've noticed that the natives in Romney's tribe are quite restless in the comment section.
Quite a bit of nerves were struck.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)None of the 'white' men I know are voting for Romney and I really find this kind of article tiring.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... insulting. What the hell does this sort of nonsense hope to accomplish?
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... among middle-aged white guys. I've had more than one neighbor tell me they're voting "against the n****r".
That blunt enough for you?
Carolina
(6,960 posts)While I'm generally against painting with a broad brush, where I live (red state), the only reason many of the white men I work with are voting for Romney is because he's white. They won't admit it but it's the only logical cause because facts (re: SS & Medicare) don't matter, history (of wars & deficits under repukes) doesn't matter, nothing else matters but getting that black man out of their white house. They are willfully amnestic about how bad things were 4 years ago and cannot give you any good reason for Romney because they don't know what he stands for.
All they ever really offer as justification is that he was a successful businessman but when I counter yes, making gazillions for himself while outsourcing jobs, they angrily scoff. I cannot tell you how this election has forever changed my opinion of many people I have to work with.
Lightbulb_on
(315 posts)Mostly white and Hispanic but also two black.
Consensus is that it is mostly for military issues and some social ones.
It's not always about skin color.
marmar
(77,090 posts)Lightbulb_on
(315 posts)... And your thoughtful response.
jp11
(2,104 posts)AnnieBW
(10,457 posts)I dunno about any other white people, but my husband and I are voting for Obama. Rmoney scares the bejesus out of me.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)Initech
(100,102 posts)Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Racism is alive in well in Amerikkka.
SpartanDem
(4,533 posts)In MS, Mccain got 90 of the white vote I'd suspect you'd find similar numbers for Mitt and that really skews national polls.
DarleenMB
(408 posts)My DH is a 71yo white male and a long-ago reformed Republican. He is about as avid a supporter of Barrack Obama as you can get (next to me that is).
Not everyone over the age of 60 is stupid or easily misled.
The sad, SAD fact is that a good chunk of the American citizenry are uninformed, ill educated and LIKE it that way.
codjh9
(2,781 posts)with the facts! About almost anything! They'd rather go back to the football game or whatever, and just 'keep the gummint off my back' (as if it's 'on' all of our backs anyway).
SmileyRose
(4,854 posts)I know an awful lot of middle aged white guys who think Willard should go eat a bag of dicks.
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codjh9
(2,781 posts)Repukes. And never will. I can't even imagine a set of circumstances that would lead me to do so.
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)Democratopia
(552 posts)They are scared that the country is going to be overrun by people who are a different skin color to them.
They are scared of people with funny names.
They are horrified that the president is a funny color, with the middle name that is the same as a middle-eastern dictator.
They are scared of the communists.
They are horrified that the president is a communist.
They are scared of socialism.
They are terrified to see America is being turned into a socialist state.
They are scared of Marxism.
They are frightened that Obama is destroying the economy with his Marxist agenda.
They are scared of gays.
They are horrified that the president is on the side of gays.
They are scared that gays in the military will endanger us all.
They are petrified that gays are marrying, destroying the sanctity of marriage.
They are frightened that the communist is destroying America.
They are afraid that the president is a foreigner.
They are scared that 'foreigners' are taking their jobs.
They are terrified that the richest people who make all wealth will have to pay more tax.
They are scared of all the liberal conspiracy theories like global warming, a communist plot.
They are scared of world government that is going to control America.
They are horrified of what is happening to their nation.
They are scared the nation is going to go bankrupt.
They are afraid of the mainstream media with its liberal agenda.
They are scared that their nation's defenses are going to be eroded by socialists.
They are scared that their freedom is going to be taken away, like their right not to buy health insurance.
They are afraid for Israel.
They are scared, so scared they typically buy guns, and sleep with one next to them.
They do not realize that it is the Republicans who are propagating their fears, by playing into their prejudices and the worst aspects of the human condition. They have been told by Republicans to be afraid, day after day after day.
They vote Republican because Republicans are the very antithesis of the Democratic Party. Everything they have been told to hate can be seen in Democrats. Democrats want to destroy America, by bringing about change that would magnify their fears and turn their fears into reality.
When asked to explain WHY they disagree with Democrats, they cannot give specific reasons because it is all fear based, at an emotional level, not intellectual. When asked what values of the Republican Party they share, typically they can give no answer, because these fears are paramount to policy.
They would never say they want children to be without health insurance, but they have been told to be afraid of a policy that would do that, as it takes away their freedoms. They would never say they don't want help for the poor, but they have been told that is evil socialism - redistribution of wealth.
They would be angry at the suggestion, but Republican messaging neatly wraps every policy up in a parcel of fear, and that is why it is impossible to have a rational conversation with a hard-line Republican. They cannot articulate their rationale, because their is no rationale. It is all based on fear.
pampango
(24,692 posts)know that the more people they can get to live in Fear, the more votes they will get in the next election. So they peddle the fear card as often as possible.
Carolina
(6,960 posts)the pols and preachers peddle hate and appeal to the inner nastiness of their sheeple. It's hate and ignorance combined. Fear factors into it, but do they truly fear communism or socialism or funny names? Do they even know what socialism is?
No, they HATE what they don't know and don't understand, and they have no desire to learn (WILLFUL IGNORANCE). And (with few exceptions: Condoliar Rice, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas...) they hate "non-white" people (Blacks, Hispanics, Arabs...) and those who think differently from them.
Fear is a more benign excuse, but hate is the real deal.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)I think it's that he blows all the dogwhistles that have nothing to do with being white for many.
They believe that the only way to succeed in business and life is to llve like Romney. Really, they do believe that.
The others that will never be like Romney either in business or personal lives, and know it, are just batshit racists.
a la izquierda
(11,797 posts)For one thing, he respects me and my rights as a woman.
For another, we're solidly middle class (as is the rest of his family, but they're of the belief that middle class-Dom is only temporary and that they're really millionaires).
Quantess
(27,630 posts)A lot of white males are voting for Obama. Okay, less than half white males, but there are still a lot of them voting with their reason and critical thinking.
But the article makes some valid points, however.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Every single one of us?
marmar
(77,090 posts)nt
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)and my opinion of the TITLE stands.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,361 posts)The broadbrush use of 'white' continues through the article, and by the end, it's not just about voting for Romney, it's about being racist. The title is milder than the content of the article.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)Racists, sexists, and general ignorant bigots en masse every election is helping to win them over to the
Democrats.
chemenger
(1,593 posts)let alone voting for Mitt Romney ... nauseates me.
catfish57
(14 posts)Bumped!!!