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Big update from Jim Messina (Original Post) RandySF Nov 2012 OP
What's a non-midterm Dem? immoderate Nov 2012 #1
Perhaps those who didn't vote in the mid-term election of 2010? Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #2
Dems who didn't vote on the midterm election in 2010? erik satie Nov 2012 #3
Dem who didn't vote in 2010. LisaL Nov 2012 #4
Someone Who Did Not Vote in 2010 . . . DarthDem Nov 2012 #5
Dumb Dems that didn't vote in 2010 ashtonelijah Nov 2012 #7
^^^^^This^^^^^^ rbrnmw Nov 2012 #19
Perhaps a non "likely voter" Nancy Waterman Nov 2012 #10
Kids like my wayward son! Voted in 2008 but skipped 2010 and voting in 2012. nc4bo Nov 2012 #21
The numbers sound good, but without context.. barnabas63 Nov 2012 #6
Any time more Dems voted than Repubs, that's a good thing.... Wounded Bear Nov 2012 #8
Repubs do tend to mostly vote on Election Day ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #16
What I take from this vdogg Nov 2012 #9
that we are getting out our harder to get voters dsc Nov 2012 #11
excellent! barnabas63 Nov 2012 #13
Right, and these are voters who might not have come out on election day BlueStreak Nov 2012 #17
He's essentially beating up on Gallup's likely voter model alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #12
If I'm reading this correctly, we're beating it to death ItsTheMediaStupid Nov 2012 #15
And that would also inlcude challenging this assertion BumRushDaShow Nov 2012 #18
Good sign for voters not considered likely voters to be voting wishlist Nov 2012 #14
The early vote push is targeted at "sporadic voters" chieftain Nov 2012 #20

DarthDem

(5,256 posts)
5. Someone Who Did Not Vote in 2010 . . .
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 06:50 PM
Nov 2012

. . . in the midterms. The ones that didn't go so well for us. Different story this time around. In fact, there may never be a midterm election like that one again in terms of the low ebb of Democratic enthusiasm.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
21. Kids like my wayward son! Voted in 2008 but skipped 2010 and voting in 2012.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:11 PM
Nov 2012

I could kill him but he's mine and I can't.

Wounded Bear

(58,713 posts)
8. Any time more Dems voted than Repubs, that's a good thing....
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 06:53 PM
Nov 2012

Not saying it decides anything, because Repubs tend to outvote Dems on election day, but I'd rather be leading than not.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
9. What I take from this
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 06:54 PM
Nov 2012

Is that polling firms relying on 2010 turnout models to determine likely voters are screwed.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
11. that we are getting out our harder to get voters
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 06:55 PM
Nov 2012

while they are getting out their usual voters. In other words, our early voters likely wouldn't have shown up on election day while theirs likely would have.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
17. Right, and these are voters who might not have come out on election day
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:02 PM
Nov 2012

On election day, you just can't waste any time with reluctant voters.

That's a pretty big spread, but I wish I knew the state breakdown. I don't blame Messina for keeping that close to the vest.

This directly addresses the GOP claim that the Dem advantage in early voting was because were were just getting our Election Day voters to come out early. Clearly that is not the case. Messina has said all along that we are targeting the more reluctant voters for early voting, and this is evidence that he was telling the truth.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
12. He's essentially beating up on Gallup's likely voter model
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 06:57 PM
Nov 2012

He's daring Gallup to retain the same for their November 5 poll. The Gallup model takes into account whether somebody voted in the latest midterm, and gives that variable a weight. It also weights Democrat or Republican based on historical data that Republican registered voters are more likely to vote. Together, those two variables have been largely responsible for Gallup's big Romney lead. Messina is saying, "So, check this out, Gallup. We are fielding huge numbers of registered Democrats who didn't vote in the latest midterm. So, you wanna stick with your model, or do you want to be right?"

BumRushDaShow

(129,513 posts)
18. And that would also inlcude challenging this assertion
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:02 PM
Nov 2012
October 30, 2012
U.S. Voter Turnout Will Likely Fall Short of 2004, 2008
Fewer voters this year say they are thinking about election, will definitely vote
by Jeffrey M. Jones

PRINCETON, NJ -- Key Gallup indicators of voter turnout, collected prior to superstorm Sandy, suggest voter turnout will fall short of what it was in 2004 and 2008. U.S. registered voters report giving less thought to the election, and are less likely to rate their chance of voting as a "10" on a 10-point scale, than in 2004 and 2008, two higher-turnout elections. However, the 2012 figures are higher than in 1996 and 2000, two lower-turnout elections.

More: http://www.gallup.com/poll/158435/voter-turnout-likely-fall-short-2004-2008.aspx

wishlist

(2,795 posts)
14. Good sign for voters not considered likely voters to be voting
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 06:58 PM
Nov 2012

Obama leads among registered voters more than among likely voters in most polls. Pollsters consider likely voters to be those who did vote in midterms and are more likely to vote now. Therefore this is a good sign that Dems who are registered but didn't vote in 2010 (when Repubs came out more) are coming out this time more than Repubs who also didn't vote in 2010

chieftain

(3,222 posts)
20. The early vote push is targeted at "sporadic voters"
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:08 PM
Nov 2012

Non mid term Dems fit that category. The idea of getting sporadic voters to the polls early is not just to bank votes but to expand the electorate with Obama voters who don't always get to the polls on E Day.

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