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Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 12:44 PM Aug 2022

It's over and done folks, Trump is finished. This is a 2 year sting op.

Yes, Donald Trump is guilty of heinous crimes against America. Yes, he sold our secrets for cash. And yes, the FBI has the proof. People on our side are all up in arms decrying why it took 2+ years for the FBI to recover secret docs Trump kept. Folks, there's a reason they let him keep those docs. Donald Trump is not a smart person. The FBI is the best run organization in the world at what they do. The bad stuff is coming. You've heard this before, I've heard this before, it's going to be a crazy fall and winter, because this time...

Donald Trump is fucked.

CNN chyron: New York Times: GOP members warned by Trump allies to stop aggressive criticism of DOJ & FBI as more damaging info may be coming


It really is over this time. His name will shamed as long as America is a country.

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It's over and done folks, Trump is finished. This is a 2 year sting op. (Original Post) Saboburns Aug 2022 OP
That musclecar6 Aug 2022 #1
some things have changed RussBLib Aug 2022 #53
Now, if we can just find some dirt on Ron (the Nazi) DeSantis we might be able to Hotler Aug 2022 #2
His dirt is his black-hearted immorality Walleye Aug 2022 #7
Lol. More soot than dirt really.... Bristlecone Aug 2022 #27
Republicans see that.... SergeStorms Aug 2022 #30
Absolutely! SheltieLover Aug 2022 #33
The dirt could come from Susie Wiles, DeSantis' former campaign manager. sop Aug 2022 #19
Save the DeSantis Raid for later mike3121 Aug 2022 #50
87,000 new IRS agents with guns. sop Aug 2022 #73
Only a small percentage will be armed agents... Wounded Bear Aug 2022 #92
But, FOX News has been reporting the 87,000 armed IRS agents are coming for people's guns. sop Aug 2022 #93
Yes, I imagine they have been saying that. Wounded Bear Aug 2022 #95
So you want them to make up an illegal porn case against DeSantis? Polybius Aug 2022 #115
That will be hard, he's a lot smarter than Trump. Mariana Aug 2022 #46
The chyron you highlight is kind of a turning point, I think. But I've been wrong before about Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2022 #3
If they had enough info to get a no knock search warrant, they probably had enough info to get PortTack Aug 2022 #4
yay, we also need beto to dethrone abbot as well. AllaN01Bear Aug 2022 #5
I think he might do it. Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #109
Let me make it pellucidly clear malaise Aug 2022 #6
So true. OLDMDDEM Aug 2022 #12
Just this morning wryter2000 Aug 2022 #20
You have me singing malaise Aug 2022 #23
How about wryter2000 Aug 2022 #31
Or as the Irish might say: yonder Aug 2022 #76
Ohhh, how I hope your prediction comes true! Guys like him always manage to slither away from being napi21 Aug 2022 #100
I have a feeling about this time. louis-t Aug 2022 #25
Plus, wryter2000 Aug 2022 #32
+1, uponit7771 Aug 2022 #37
Agree 100%! n/t LuckyCharms Aug 2022 #39
how in the world? RussBLib Aug 2022 #55
malaise is an institution around here. Lochloosa Aug 2022 #71
I've seen the name many times RussBLib Aug 2022 #72
Malaise is highly regarded here! lunatica Aug 2022 #88
We are hurricane buddies. It's been really quiet this year. Lochloosa Aug 2022 #90
There have been a few in the Pacific lunatica Aug 2022 #91
This time for sure sarisataka Aug 2022 #8
Exactly RevBrotherThomas Aug 2022 #44
This. So very much this. Treefrog Aug 2022 #116
What are Reps saying today? Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #9
About fuckin' time!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2022 #10
I Agree, this has Honeypot Written all Over it Beetwasher. Aug 2022 #11
Sorry but we've been hearing this for years. Marius25 Aug 2022 #13
+1, Benedict Donald kidnapped children as a policy and killed over 300k Americans by lying about the uponit7771 Aug 2022 #41
Winter is here AKwannabe Aug 2022 #14
I'll believe it when I see it. This better be some BIG shit; not overdue library books. oldsoftie Aug 2022 #15
I, too, will believe it when I see it, though it seems more likely now. BUT I really hope it Scrivener7 Aug 2022 #47
Yeah, I understand that hesitation. calimary Aug 2022 #114
i assume mar a lago and other TFG properties have been bugged since he left office, if not longer. uncle ray Aug 2022 #16
Fun dayn moyl zu Got's oyem. maxsolomon Aug 2022 #17
Small correction wryter2000 Aug 2022 #18
I noticed that time discrepancy, too. Thanks for pointing it out. wnylib Aug 2022 #26
Absolutely you are correct Saboburns Aug 2022 #67
name change Snoopy 7 Aug 2022 #21
Not even CLOSE to a sting operation. And Trump is definitely not "done" Bucky Aug 2022 #22
Wrong!! Saboburns Aug 2022 #34
You are wrong. former9thward Aug 2022 #48
New York Times do? Saboburns Aug 2022 #49
That is twitter not the NYT. former9thward Aug 2022 #57
Obstruction and Espionage Saboburns Aug 2022 #58
Just because Trump is committing crimes doesn't make the search warrant a "sting" Bucky Aug 2022 #113
you sound like you are disappointed Skittles Aug 2022 #77
I will leave the personal attacks aside. former9thward Aug 2022 #84
yeah but we should at LEAST be celebrating that the spotlight is ON that corrupt bastard Skittles Aug 2022 #85
Okey-dokey Saboburns Aug 2022 #62
Your claim is a sting operation. former9thward Aug 2022 #70
Thank you. BlackSkimmer Aug 2022 #74
Thank you. When someone is this big a criminal, no sting, raid, or honeypot needed. quaint Aug 2022 #35
I just hope. Snackshack Aug 2022 #24
Late or not, doesn't matter with foxnews and the morons Smackdown2019 Aug 2022 #105
I'll believe it when I see it 867-5309. Aug 2022 #28
Sounds serious. Torchlight Aug 2022 #66
Time to step outside the hurl radius. nt Xipe Totec Aug 2022 #29
Sure hope so, Baron should grow up in a world where the Trump name is despised. Jon King Aug 2022 #36
Yeah ok... RevBrotherThomas Aug 2022 #38
I'll believe it when I see it. Nululu Aug 2022 #40
Well... Saboburns Aug 2022 #69
So, inthewind21 Aug 2022 #78
Do you mean something like Donald Trump's home being raided by the FBI? Saboburns Aug 2022 #83
Hope you're right. sarcasmo Aug 2022 #42
Has a major news source confirmed a sting operation? SheltieLover Aug 2022 #43
No inthewind21 Aug 2022 #79
Thx SheltieLover Aug 2022 #82
UNTIL THE POS' PERP WALK, I will stay cautiously optimistic? Brainfodder Aug 2022 #45
Who did he sell the secrets to? nt Tickle Aug 2022 #51
My guess is Russia and Saudi. sheshe2 Aug 2022 #97
Yup, that's big, very big. Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #110
He may be done politically this time, we hope. But what has allowed DJT to be 'successful' in wiggs Aug 2022 #52
Traitor. Sold his Country out for a few measly bucks. SWBTATTReg Aug 2022 #54
Oh, it wasn't measly bucks. sheshe2 Aug 2022 #98
In what Universe is he not already lower than. thomski64 Aug 2022 #56
Bookmarking. I hope you are right. CentralMass Aug 2022 #59
nothing has changed stillcool Aug 2022 #60
more than just him need to go down moonshinegnomie Aug 2022 #61
Why do you think this is taking so long? sheshe2 Aug 2022 #99
Politico reporting Trump may have violated edpionage act. Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #63
Key words inthewind21 Aug 2022 #81
Trump should get an asterisk in history books from now on. lpbk2713 Aug 2022 #64
OMG!! MarcoZandrini Aug 2022 #65
50/50 USALiberal Aug 2022 #68
I hope this is it IbogaProject Aug 2022 #75
Maybe Trump is obnoxiousdrunk Aug 2022 #80
Let's hope this was "THE BEST IS YET TO COME" Catherine Vincent Aug 2022 #86
Is this Fitzmas all over again? zipplewrath Aug 2022 #87
I still worry about timing. hamsterjill Aug 2022 #89
Stick a fork in that bloated, overcooked turkey Blue Owl Aug 2022 #94
Uh...nope. progressoid Aug 2022 #96
I'm not counting my chickens just yet COL Mustard Aug 2022 #101
Well, just to point out he still has to be charged and then it has to go to trial before a jury. cstanleytech Aug 2022 #102
The show ain't over until the prison cell door clangs. JHB Aug 2022 #103
In the mean time poor persecuted Trump is fund raising Emile Aug 2022 #104
For me, it is not over and done until tfg and others are behind bars for their crimes. Ferrets are Cool Aug 2022 #106
You think it was a sting operation, but you also think he sold secrets for cash muriel_volestrangler Aug 2022 #107
I never doubted Joe Biden or Merrick Garland. Go back and listen to Joe about the "soul of America". Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #108
It's the only explanation that fits the facts we know. Scrivener7 Aug 2022 #111
How can we ever find an untainted jury? If he goes to prison, housecat Aug 2022 #112

musclecar6

(1,693 posts)
1. That
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 12:53 PM
Aug 2022


Thought will certainly warm the hearts of us Dems if it’s true, but we’ve heard that kind of stuff before and it went nowhere. Just rumors as always but let’s hope this time it is true so we would all be dancing in the street instead of crying in our beer every time we turn around with the next idiotic dangerous manipulative self serving thing he comes up with.

RussBLib

(9,056 posts)
53. some things have changed
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 03:09 PM
Aug 2022

we've never been "here" before.

Things do not happen until they do. Sounds like Confucius.

Hotler

(11,473 posts)
2. Now, if we can just find some dirt on Ron (the Nazi) DeSantis we might be able to
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 12:55 PM
Aug 2022

cripple the fascist party.

sop

(10,289 posts)
19. The dirt could come from Susie Wiles, DeSantis' former campaign manager.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 01:45 PM
Aug 2022

Lots of interesting background information about Wiles, DeSantis and Trump:

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3596037-the-most-powerful-republican-you-dont-know/

Susie Wiles has a lot of damaging information about DeSantis' political operation, dirt she could use to help Trump defeat DeSantis in 2024 (if Trump decides to run):

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/editorials/os-op-ron-desantis-ukraine-campaign-contributions-20191022-t6637j3r5vgm5bqsu3lb2ewhgq-story.html

mike3121

(74 posts)
50. Save the DeSantis Raid for later
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 03:04 PM
Aug 2022

Save the FBI Raid on DeSantis until closer to the 2024 election. Let it leak they are looking for Child Porn, that will sink him for sure. Hey, we'll have 87,000 new IRS agents, put them to work.

sop

(10,289 posts)
93. But, FOX News has been reporting the 87,000 armed IRS agents are coming for people's guns.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 11:40 PM
Aug 2022

Surely they wouldn't lie?

Wounded Bear

(58,771 posts)
95. Yes, I imagine they have been saying that.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 11:43 PM
Aug 2022

I wouldn't know because I don't watch them.

Yeah, they probably wouldn't lie.

Polybius

(15,519 posts)
115. So you want them to make up an illegal porn case against DeSantis?
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 12:21 AM
Aug 2022

Or do you have evidence that he committed a crime?

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,064 posts)
3. The chyron you highlight is kind of a turning point, I think. But I've been wrong before about
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 12:58 PM
Aug 2022

The chyron you highlight is kind of a turning point, I think. But I've been wrong before about turning points related to anything tRumpian. It does have a kind of "Let's start edging away now" vibe.

PortTack

(32,819 posts)
4. If they had enough info to get a no knock search warrant, they probably had enough info to get
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 12:58 PM
Aug 2022

A cell phone tap, especially considering the info being “stored” was of the greatest national security. No doubt the feds know a lot..a lot more than we will ever know! And the DOJ will not hesitate to use all they have to take him down.

malaise

(269,263 posts)
6. Let me make it pellucidly clear
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 12:59 PM
Aug 2022

The Slobfather is going to be indicted and he will be taking down several ReTHUGs and more than a few white supremacists,
Take that to the bank. The end is nigh!😀😀😀

wryter2000

(46,130 posts)
20. Just this morning
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 01:49 PM
Aug 2022

We heard the criminal case against his company and Weisselberg is going forward. Also, Leticia James is looking for the "death penalty" of his company. He's been committing tax, insurance, and bank fraud since he got into the business, and it's all coming out now.

I honestly believe he could have gone on his merry way, committing fraud, cheating his contractors, and bilking folks with things like his "university" if he hadn't decided to run for president.

For about 7 years, I've been waiting for the day when he'd regret coming down that escalator, and I think that day arrived this week. It's sweet!

napi21

(45,806 posts)
100. Ohhh, how I hope your prediction comes true! Guys like him always manage to slither away from being
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 03:45 AM
Aug 2022

caught though. Maybe his luck has finally run out.

louis-t

(23,309 posts)
25. I have a feeling about this time.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 02:07 PM
Aug 2022

I really think he's toast. The FBI doesn't do a 2-year investigation to have it go nowhere. There are lots of co-conspirators involved. This ain't going away.

RussBLib

(9,056 posts)
55. how in the world?
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 03:14 PM
Aug 2022

...can you have over 246,000 posts?! Over 18 years, that's 37 posts per day.

I am in awe of your tenacity.

BTW, I agree with you. It could get really ugly, hopefully.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
91. There have been a few in the Pacific
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 11:20 PM
Aug 2022

But I’m sure the season will rev up soon. Good luck in any case!

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
13. Sorry but we've been hearing this for years.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 01:32 PM
Aug 2022

I thought Trump would be finished with the Mueller report.

We can't say it's over for him.

He can also run for office from prison FYI.

uponit7771

(90,370 posts)
41. +1, Benedict Donald kidnapped children as a policy and killed over 300k Americans by lying about the
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 02:45 PM
Aug 2022

.... lethality of a deadly virus.

I would think after that there's no way 77 million people would vote for him cause his ass would be in jail ... not so much

oldsoftie

(12,658 posts)
15. I'll believe it when I see it. This better be some BIG shit; not overdue library books.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 01:39 PM
Aug 2022

It can't be the Clinton "we'll get Jim even if its just lying" crap.
It HAS to be serious violations. I want to see stuff that makes MY neighbors say "Wait, WHAT??"
But I appreciate your optimism.

Scrivener7

(51,080 posts)
47. I, too, will believe it when I see it, though it seems more likely now. BUT I really hope it
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 02:54 PM
Aug 2022

is NOT big shit. Because big shit in association with those kinds of documents could very well mean lives lost which we might or might not ever hear about.

This terrifies me.

Editing: They're naming the stuff that they found. It's big shit.

calimary

(81,566 posts)
114. Yeah, I understand that hesitation.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 12:07 AM
Aug 2022

We've certainly gotten our hopes up before. More than a few times.

uncle ray

(3,157 posts)
16. i assume mar a lago and other TFG properties have been bugged since he left office, if not longer.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 01:40 PM
Aug 2022

certainly after this summers first FBI visit.

wryter2000

(46,130 posts)
18. Small correction
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 01:43 PM
Aug 2022

Two years ago, he was still president and legally had access to the material. (Scary enough in itself.) He's been out of office for almost exactly 1.5 years.

Otherwise, I think your OP is spot-on.

Snoopy 7

(530 posts)
21. name change
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 01:50 PM
Aug 2022

I heard trump is changing his name to BENEDICT ARNOLD. Look him up you won't be surprised of the comparison.

Bucky

(54,093 posts)
22. Not even CLOSE to a sting operation. And Trump is definitely not "done"
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 01:57 PM
Aug 2022

Just cause he's a criminal and a Russian agent doesn't mean the Republicans won't celebrate and nominate him. We all saw how quickly the Republican establishment rushed to swallow his distorted, dishonest take on the search warrant. They exploded with how the FBI should be defunded and broken up into tiny subagencies. It's pathetic. Republicans don't even flinch at the outright hypocrisy these days. If anything, this search warrant is a threat to Ron DeSantis. Republicans want to feel persecuted. Nominating Trump gets them there.

As for the "sting", sorry, but the FBI has been in talks with the Trump compound to turn over those papers through peaceful, low-profile, and polite means since February. Calling this search a "raid" is like telling the traffic court judge that the police ambushed you for doing 45 through a school zone.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
49. New York Times do?
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 03:03 PM
Aug 2022

?s=20&t=408MKbYbc0DW1SJVEsGX4w


You can apologize whenever you work up to it. I know these things are difficult and take a bit of time.

All the best!

former9thward

(32,128 posts)
57. That is twitter not the NYT.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 03:15 PM
Aug 2022

What that tweet is referencing is boilerplate used on the warrant. When this "sting operation" never happens will you apologize? I doubt it. You have already moved the goalposts back to the "fall and winter". Whenever one of these "Trump is about to get indicted" OPs gets posted the big day is always a few months away. And those few months keep getting pushed back and back.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
58. Obstruction and Espionage
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 03:17 PM
Aug 2022

I'm usually not vain, but shit, I'm gonna gloat over this one!



Maggie Haberman
@maggieNYT
The warrant shows the criminal statutes invoked related to obstruction and espionage

Bucky

(54,093 posts)
113. Just because Trump is committing crimes doesn't make the search warrant a "sting"
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 04:22 PM
Aug 2022

This is an ongoing investigation. There was no "raid". They didn't kick the doors down, they didn't pop through the windows, but they did notify Trump and his lawyers in advance that they would be showing up to retrieve the records Trump's people failed to turn over and apparently lied about.

Everything I stated in my post was correct. No one is disputing that it's about obstruction and espionage.

Skittles

(153,270 posts)
77. you sound like you are disappointed
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 05:11 PM
Aug 2022

yup

I'm curious if you at least agree that Donald Fucking Trump is an absolute piece of SHIT and his fans are seriously FUCKED UP

former9thward

(32,128 posts)
84. I will leave the personal attacks aside.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 06:13 PM
Aug 2022

I am in favor of facts not crazy speculation. I have been reading gleeful "Trump is finally going down!" OPs and posts since 2015. And not one of the predictions (and supposed inside sources) has proved true. Take that however you want.

quaint

(2,593 posts)
35. Thank you. When someone is this big a criminal, no sting, raid, or honeypot needed.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 02:42 PM
Aug 2022

I'm convinced everything is being handled properly.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
24. I just hope.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 02:01 PM
Aug 2022

It is not too late. Midterms are right around the corner and if the GOP gets a majority back in 1 or both chambers they gum all of this up with subpoenas, hearings, lawsuits.

Smackdown2019

(1,192 posts)
105. Late or not, doesn't matter with foxnews and the morons
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 09:20 AM
Aug 2022

If does get locked up, foxnews would spin as a kidnapping and his nazified followers would take to the streets.

History is the most important weapon!

That is why we shall NEVER forget history, so it will NEVER REPEAT ITSELF.

This dangerous man prepped his career path by studying Hitler. He hook and line them into a state of obsession of servitude.

As history shows, lock up for temporary term only gives them more time to prepare for the next step. We need to throw away the key in a very cold place like Alaska. Or! Puerto Rico as a very hot miserable place.

Traitor he is, his followers would follow him into hell, thats the said truth!

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
36. Sure hope so, Baron should grow up in a world where the Trump name is despised.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 02:43 PM
Aug 2022

All the damage this family has done for multiple generations. The cycle must stop, the younger Trumps should literally grow up to renounce the Trump name in order to be members of society.

RevBrotherThomas

(838 posts)
38. Yeah ok...
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 02:44 PM
Aug 2022

I'll believe when I see it. As you say, we've heard this all before; from the 1st campaign announcement, lie after lie, scandal after scandal, impeachment after impeachment through today:

"THIS TIME Trump is fucked."

When I hear the gavel go down and he's remanded into custody, I'll believe it.

Not one moment before.

Nululu

(842 posts)
40. I'll believe it when I see it.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 02:45 PM
Aug 2022

There's no way this was a sting operation. I won't be celebrating until he's convicted for his crimes. He must answer for the maimed and dead at the capital coup attempt.

Until then this is just more air.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
78. So,
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 05:49 PM
Aug 2022

Has Trump been charged with ANYTHING? Anything at all? Do you think ALL warrants result in a conviction? Do you know why search warrant's are issued? What came of the FBI search warrant served on Rudy Giuliani in 2019? There was a warrant that lined out statues in his investigation as well. Is he in jail? Has he had a trial? Has he been arrested for anything? Because a warrant lines out statutes does not mean there will be arrests and convictions. I'll wait to celebrate when something actually happens.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
83. Do you mean something like Donald Trump's home being raided by the FBI?
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 06:03 PM
Aug 2022

Or that in the warrant he is being investigated for violating three major laws, INCLUDING OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, AND BREAKING THE ESPIONAGE ACT, in an ongoing investigation. Cause somehow they got a Federal Judge to grant a warrant agreeing there's probable cause Donnie broke those laws.

Cause, er um, those things really happened.

But whatever, you do you and I certainly won't tell you how to think.

But me, I do what I want!

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
45. UNTIL THE POS' PERP WALK, I will stay cautiously optimistic?
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 02:51 PM
Aug 2022

Last edited Fri Aug 12, 2022, 03:37 PM - Edit history (1)



Death Penalty works for me, and PPV it and give all the proceeds to RAINBOW causes!







sheshe2

(84,016 posts)
97. My guess is Russia and Saudi.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 01:19 AM
Aug 2022

He had to pay back Russia for getting him elected. As for Saudi, they paid Jared 2 billion dollars and we the public do not know why. Pretty sure DOJ knows.

Tick Tock.

wiggs

(7,820 posts)
52. He may be done politically this time, we hope. But what has allowed DJT to be 'successful' in
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 03:08 PM
Aug 2022

turning our nation, and others, onto the autocracy path has been planned for 45 years. Not Trump specifically of course...but the implementation of certain tools is not an accident nor is it a coincidence: fomentation of hate and polarization; creation of great inequality; consolidation of media outlets; think tanks dedicated to lifting up favored ideas; denigration of education, unions, the 'coasts'; labeling of safety nets and other programs as socialism; changing the american dream from owning a home to owning a mansion;...etc.

These were very expensive, long-planned activities that will not be given up by our own autocrats and those around the world.

When Trump is hobbled politically (and hopefully criminally) we will have to turn our attention to the next narcissist/autocrat/criminal.

sheshe2

(84,016 posts)
98. Oh, it wasn't measly bucks.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 01:23 AM
Aug 2022

His whole family raked in millions, Jared walked with 2 billion from Saudi alone.

moonshinegnomie

(2,502 posts)
61. more than just him need to go down
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 03:27 PM
Aug 2022

the entire party thats supported him needs to be crushed too. obliterated and consigned to the dustbin of history

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
81. Key words
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 05:53 PM
Aug 2022

"may have". Just like they reported he "may have" been involved in insurrection. He 'may have" interfered with congress. He "may have cheated on his taxes" he "may have raped women. He "may have" violated the emoluments clause. and and and.... "My have" means jack.

IbogaProject

(2,853 posts)
75. I hope this is it
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 04:48 PM
Aug 2022

But the ready to go "it's a Hoax to distract from the New IRS agents" story is holding their side together for now.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
89. I still worry about timing.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 10:28 PM
Aug 2022

Republicans don’t play fair and I’m worried about the midterms. Democrats have got to vote in numbers so great they even the Republican cheating can’t work.

COL Mustard

(5,957 posts)
101. I'm not counting my chickens just yet
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 06:04 AM
Aug 2022

This guy is so oily that he may very well find a way to wriggle out of this.

He won’t be finished until he shuffles off this mortal coil.

cstanleytech

(26,347 posts)
102. Well, just to point out he still has to be charged and then it has to go to trial before a jury.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 08:23 AM
Aug 2022

A jury I will point out is likely to have at least one Trump worshiping nutjob on it but even if he is convicted he has appeals and if it makes it to SCOTUS I have zero faith in the 6 Republican judges on the court and am willing to bet that they will find a bullshit pretext to throw the case out.

JHB

(37,164 posts)
103. The show ain't over until the prison cell door clangs.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 08:50 AM
Aug 2022

Preferably on more people than Orange Jumpsuitius.

Encouraging, but it's not behind us yet.

Emile

(23,123 posts)
104. In the mean time poor persecuted Trump is fund raising
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 08:55 AM
Aug 2022

off this. I want this traitor locked up until judgement day.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,407 posts)
107. You think it was a sting operation, but you also think he sold secrets for cash
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 09:51 AM
Aug 2022

and that the FBI has proof of that. The order of events you're claiming is unclear, but either:

He sold the secrets after the FBI started the sting (which must have been after Biden became president, because the FBI couldn't mount a sting operation against a sitting president), in which case you're calling them incompetent for not preventing it

or

He sold the secrets first, and then at some point, the FBI mounted your sting operation, to ... what? How does a new sting obtain proof of what he had previously done?

Either way, you're painting (without evidence) a picture of a directionless FBI that mounted a seemingly pointless "sting".

Just to check, please define "sting op".

Scrivener7

(51,080 posts)
111. It's the only explanation that fits the facts we know.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 12:14 PM
Aug 2022

I really hope it's true because the alternative would be terrifying.

housecat

(3,121 posts)
112. How can we ever find an untainted jury? If he goes to prison,
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 12:20 PM
Aug 2022

he will likely die from one or more of the following:

1) inmates will kill him
2) someone else will kill him
3) he won't have drugs
4) he'll starve because he won't have servants and yes-men and women to feed his ego
5) he'll die because he won't win anything, but he will see enemies win

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