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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEverywhere I look, I see Republicans being dirty.
They don't seem to know how to get behind positive messages.
The tainted medication that caused so many people to get sick or even die from fungal meningitis...
The anti-Asian message against Betty Sutton in Ohio...
Lying about sending Jeep's jobs to China when it is so obviously wrong...
I could go on, but I think you get my drift.
Don't they know how to be anything else?
DonRedwood
(4,359 posts)Why learn pesky facts when you can just make them up?!
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,715 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,715 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Grrrrrrr.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,715 posts)I just don't get it...
Kadie
(15,369 posts)and the scary thing is that so many people buy into those lies and don't make the effort to find out the truth.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,715 posts)louslobbs
(3,238 posts)there's something wrong with their brains.
Lou
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,715 posts)I suspect their brain chemistry is certainly different than ours...
louslobbs
(3,238 posts)Lou
Lightsource777
(78 posts)Their party is geared toward preserving the interest of the wealthy at this point.
They have no plan nor do they care.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,715 posts)BTW, a belated Welcome to DU!
Lightsource777
(78 posts)louslobbs
(3,238 posts)Lou
Lightsource777
(78 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)It defines them.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,715 posts)kerouac2
(449 posts)I mean, c'mon. The Romney campaign is ridiculously dishonest.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)The scientifically literate, women, minorities, aging, and civil libertarians see nothing there. So it's the plutocrats and their wannabees, and the people they can hoodwink and scare that will get their votes.
And if they don't pull some dirty shit, they have no chance. As an Orwellian, I fear their power, because if they gain control they will institutionalize it. Their lies will become official "truths."
--imm
Raster
(20,998 posts)...and it's death throes are not pretty. The once-time party of Lincoln is now the party of batshit crazy. There are no more moderates or social liberals in the republican party, they've all been purged. The GOP has prostituted it's ideology for the knuckle-dragger and teabagger vote and now finds it impossible to assume a coherent, non-extreme position.
The republican party is officially certifiable and defies all logic. All they have now is anger.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,715 posts)I agree with you totally.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)That's what they are. They are not believers in democracy, in the founding principles, in the real American way.
Greedy authoritarians at the top; dupes at the bottom.
Lugnut
(9,791 posts)They are a special kind of sick.
nolabear
(41,991 posts)when logic breaks down and they still feel uneasy and frightened, the limbic system takes over and then they try to find quasi-logical support for their illogical fears.
People have many ways to try not to feel afraid. One is the acquisition of stuff, like money and houses and land. Another is to create scapegoats and bond with others against them. Another is to accrue power and hang onto it for dear life.
But all these things break down eventually, because none of them really stop fear. Only surrender to reality and choosing to trust and accept that we will all die in the end, and the sense that the whole, and not only the individual, is important and its survival is a part of our own, can help. People ask all the time why Japan was so able to work together to recover from Fukushima. It's this sense that allows those things to happen. Rugged individualism has its price.
So imo the GOP, as a fear based group, is trying desperately to keep power and stuff by doing what seems natural to them, create fear and insecurity and scapegoats.
It can only work as long as we ourselves feel that way. Sadly, a lot of Americans do.
But not President Obama.
Vote.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,715 posts)That was truly illuminating. I think rugged individualism is fine, as long as you recognize that it has limitations. But the Republicans don't seem to see those.
Hope is stronger than fear!
nolabear
(41,991 posts)The truly remarkable thing about the American Experiment is the repeated (and I think noble and wonderful) attempt to balance individualism and social justice and cooperation. It's damned hard, and if we'd let ourselves we could be really good at it.
Lionel Mandrake
(4,076 posts)It was dropped in the 1950s, according to the hysterically funny movie "Hysteria" (2011).
nolabear
(41,991 posts)The European DSM uses "Histrionic" I think but the idea is that emotions are extremely labile and overwhelming. The details can vary wildly from seductive to rageful but the idea is that people will do damn near anything to try to feel calm and secure, and nothing really helps.
Borderline Personality Disorder is sort of similar but even more pervasive and difficult.
Naturaly they used to say it was the womenfolk.
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)on NPR had an interesting discussion on this. We have reached the level of a "cold" civil war.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)They were spouting the typical shit that if Obama wins, the country is finished within a year. Typical rightwing scare tactic horseshit. I normally don't interrupt other people's conversations, but I saw a young person that had to listen to those assholes turning red but saying nothing. I was also pissed at the lies that were being spouted. A couple stood near by with their backs turned to the assholes. One said an obvious lie and I could not fucking stand another second of their shit, I told the asshole that said the last statement that he was full of shit and stated a couple of facts to back up my statement. The motherfucker tried to argue, but I cut him off and stated several more pieces of information that cut his legs out from under him, the asshole finally admitted that he didn't know whether what he said was true and would have to look up information on the web. I was pissed and red as hell at that point and was ready to fight if one of them twitched, I walked away to calm down. When I came back to finish my business, I noticed the couple and the young person, both looked a lot happier and the assholes were silent. I completed my business, had the kid say goodbye and thanks to me and I left.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,715 posts)It's easy to get involved in that sort of argument, but when you have the facts at your fingertips......well, that's priceless!
Thanks for telling your story.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)WCGreen
(45,558 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,715 posts)That puts them in a very poor light, I think...
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,715 posts)I'll bet you have!
CheapShotArtist
(333 posts)Whether it's "Obamacare", higher taxes on the rich, gay rights, Affirmative Action, or having abortions.
moondust
(20,006 posts)tend to gravitate to the Right.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)You only have to look at all this election rigging and suppression perpetrated by Rethuglicons.
They think it's just fine to thwart voting, steal votes, obstruct the process.
"The Ends Justify the Means" --that's their motto.
And on the fundy end of that leaky boat GOP, "God justifies the means"......
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)and the fact that they are willing to lie, cheat, steal to win...and the number of people that support that is sickening.
I think that politics has simply become a blood sport. Red vs. Blue and for the most part, the Red side is willing to support anything that it takes to win.
Many have forgotten that the the "spoils" ARE us. WE go to the victors. Our jobs, our healthcare, our financial resources, our ecological resources, our children, our significant others, our mothers, our fathers....and giving these precious things to cretins who do not have any intention of treasuring them is barbarism. Just to put a win in the column.
In this election, it is not hyperbole to say that lives are at stake. I don't think that many on the Red side really believe that. There is evil in store for all of us if RR gets in the WH. And the sad part is, there will be no turning back.
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,715 posts)Judging from what I've read, the Obama campaign is more than ready to deal with anything corrupted from Ohio or anywhere else.
I really believe that.
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)I just can't help remembering the 2004 election, and how great things were going, when suddenly the numbers flipped and we were stuck with W for another four years. It was a nightmare.
Just like you, I'm hanging in there (I'm in California, too)
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,715 posts)I am confident that Obama will fight any stolen votes. He will not lie down and concede the way Kerry did.
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)H2O Man
(73,622 posts)thinking that maybe the republicans would loosen up a bit.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,715 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)But one good thing is, once twisted into one, they can't get out of it. Lights out.
I'll be so relieved when this is over and I'll never look at a certain segment of my fellow human beings exactly the same again. All I'll be able to see is the rat king.
malaise
(269,182 posts)They are ReTHUGs- what do you expect?
I expect to see more than a few of them thrown in prison after this is over.
I wonder if they know or remember what happened to Mike Connell.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Karl_Roves_IT_guru_Mike_Connell_1220.html
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,715 posts)I'd forgotten about Mike Connell......thanks for the link.
I hope to see many of them in prison for their dirty tricks both this year, and previous years.
They make me sick.
Glad to see you got your star!
-LOKI -BAD FOR YA
(308 posts)FSogol
(45,529 posts)End of story.
I remember a Matt Groening comic (Life in Hell) where the little rabbit asks the Dad, "If you vote Republican, does that make you an accomplice to their crimes?"
Generic Brad
(14,276 posts)They embrace policies that will kill the planet, oppress individual freedom, and exploit the weak. The philosophy is summed up as "He who dies with the most toys wins".
With all the fundamentalists and Dominionists in their party, they are in a race to use up all the resources and end the world so they can hasten the return of Christ. That is why they embrace these policies that are detrimental to humanity.
blazeKing
(329 posts)For Criisssakes, Bush raised the terror alert warnings based on bad days of polling so he could scare people into the 911 mindset where his approval ratings were in the 90's following the attack. That was admitted by Gov. Ridge. These are bad, bad people.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Always. They are out of control.
RepublicansRZombies
(982 posts)Strange they think they will be saved when they are the ones attempting to cause armageddon by ignoring the teachings of Jesus.