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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 01:19 PM Nov 2012

Wow: Washington Post editorial board absolutely eviscerates the Romney campaign.

For good reason, I have been very, very down on the Washington Post. In several short years, it has gone from an essential daily read to little more than fishwrap.

Which is why this, from the Post's editorial board, is nothing short of astonishing. I read dozens of articles a day, every day, and few have done better to eviscerate Mitt Romney's campaign than this. Color me gobsmacked.

Mitt Romney’s campaign insults voters
Washington Post Editorial Board

11/02/2012

THROUGH ALL THE flip-flops, there has been one consistency in the campaign of Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney: a contempt for the electorate.

How else to explain his refusal to disclose essential information? Defying recent bipartisan tradition, he failed to release the names of his bundlers — the high rollers who collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations. He never provided sufficient tax returns to show voters how he became rich.

How, other than an assumption that voters are too dim to remember what Mr. Romney has said across the years and months, to account for his breathtaking ideological shifts? He was a friend of immigrants, then a scourge of immigrants, then again a friend. He was a Kissingerian foreign policy realist, then a McCain-like hawk, then a purveyor of peace. He pioneered Obamacare, he detested Obamacare, then he found elements in it to cherish. Assault weapons were bad, then good. Abortion was okay, then bad. Climate change was an urgent problem; then, not so much. Hurricane cleanup was a job for the states, until it was once again a job for the feds.

The same presumption of gullibility has infused his misleading commercials (see: Jeep jobs to China) and his refusal to lay out an agenda. Mr. Romney promised to replace the Affordable Care Act but never said with what. He promised an alternative to President Obama’s lifeline to young undocumented immigrants but never deigned to describe it.

Much more, keep reading, well worth it: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mitt-romneys-election-campaign-insults-voters/2012/11/02/69fcc1fc-2428-11e2-9313-3c7f59038d93_story.html

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Wow: Washington Post editorial board absolutely eviscerates the Romney campaign. (Original Post) WilliamPitt Nov 2012 OP
Romney's message has been totally consistent since he ran against Kennedy. merrily Nov 2012 #1
and that is chilling. nt silvershadow Nov 2012 #51
Then, by lying, distorting, flip-floping, hiding, he managed to fail at what he tought... Amonester Nov 2012 #52
+1 freshwest Nov 2012 #53
I think WaPo was right on Romney's heels cprise Nov 2012 #62
Better late than never BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #2
+ 1 russspeakeasy Nov 2012 #7
And of all publications, Bloomberg proved Reid right in the end. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2012 #9
Heroic effort by Harry, and I think he did it because he knew BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #11
He just shanked him like in prison and did it with that quiet demeanor of his. One of Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2012 #13
Yep. dchill Nov 2012 #58
Great piece jsr Nov 2012 #3
That's the way to make Myth a member of the castrati! Really like DonViejo Nov 2012 #4
Unfortunately, whatever is in the Washington Post nichomachus Nov 2012 #5
Too little ... too late. It's ass-covering time, along with a long list of "endorsements" too late libdem4life Nov 2012 #6
caught this one too Axelrod Tweeted it trailmonkee Nov 2012 #8
Unfortunately shawn703 Nov 2012 #10
We also don't often consider... DaveJ Nov 2012 #29
Or maybe just 47% loyalsister Nov 2012 #36
In any other election Mitt wouldn't stand a chance with Republicans,... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #12
for the most part the MSM has been a willing accomplice in this effort to mislead the public Supersedeas Nov 2012 #14
+10000 1gobluedem Nov 2012 #18
"his chronic, baldly dishonest defense of mathematically impossible budget proposals" just1voice Nov 2012 #15
Since Lincoln? hootinholler Nov 2012 #22
Agreed. I have to stick up for TR and Ike. hifiguy Nov 2012 #28
Teddy is pretty much responsible for the R right shift hootinholler Nov 2012 #33
I'd love to see TR take on today's repukes. hifiguy Nov 2012 #34
And for the reasons stated in the editorial, if Romney were elected he would not be able to govern. grantcart Nov 2012 #16
"...if Romney were elected he would not be able to govern." He's not LOOKING to "govern." he's out WinkyDink Nov 2012 #25
Exactly! He's out to LOOT! SharonAnn Nov 2012 #35
All of the media is at fault UCmeNdc Nov 2012 #17
Total evisceration. Cali_Democrat Nov 2012 #19
Did he ever release the promised 2011 return? BlueStreak Nov 2012 #20
Rmoney couldn't be a boy scout! SCVDem Nov 2012 #21
this is surprising...and good Hamlette Nov 2012 #23
Fact is it is sociopathic ! Wash. state Desk Jet Nov 2012 #24
I have always maintained that mittens is a sociopath. nt Javaman Nov 2012 #27
Then you have always been right. dchill Nov 2012 #57
mitt romney--the King of Nothing! triplepoint Nov 2012 #26
Good one. secondvariety Nov 2012 #44
Romney is a very bad liar. It's that simple. savannah43 Nov 2012 #30
Great read, WRP! Thanks again. n/t Duval Nov 2012 #31
Don't forget about FEMA. RiffRandell Nov 2012 #32
No one likes a Mitt flopper. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2012 #37
They just had to throw in false equivalence at the end. spooky3 Nov 2012 #38
This Actually Goes Too Soft On Romney DallasNE Nov 2012 #39
Mitt Romney epitomizes the moral character of the Republican Party AZ Progressive Nov 2012 #43
I wish the rest of the news media had the courage to be as blunt as that AZ Progressive Nov 2012 #40
My RW sister is not gonna be happy I posted this to her facebook wall. Oh well. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #41
Great Post K& R Dalai_1 Nov 2012 #42
Good for Op/Ed Writers.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2012 #45
K & R Scurrilous Nov 2012 #46
His position is zentrum Nov 2012 #47
Wow! Is that really the WP? Up2Late Nov 2012 #48
Oh my! Fantastic!!! Window Nov 2012 #49
Candidates pander, that's part of the terrain, but NEVER - EVER - EVER... VPStoltz Nov 2012 #50
Talk about speaking the obvious truth! Quixote1818 Nov 2012 #54
Romney is so bad, he is losing endorsements one by one. mary195149 Nov 2012 #55
RE: WaPo creoledna Nov 2012 #56
where were these aholes, and the rest of the msm, when it would have made a real difference? even Gabi Hayes Nov 2012 #59
This was awesome. eqfan592 Nov 2012 #60
4 Proper Nouns, 5 Syllables -- 99 Percent Sure Nov 2012 #61

merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. Romney's message has been totally consistent since he ran against Kennedy.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 01:23 PM
Nov 2012

"I want to be elected President some day and will say and do anything that I think will make that more likely."

That's all he wrote.

There's really nothing to parse.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
52. Then, by lying, distorting, flip-floping, hiding, he managed to fail at what he tought...
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 11:17 PM
Nov 2012

*would* make that more likely. (To Be Confirmed In Four Days). If he can't even think of the right behavior he must cling to to win what he's been wanting to win for years, how could he have done the right things once he *would* have won?

He's a bailed-out failure (Matt Tahibi). A liar. A snake-oil salesman. A job destroyer profiteer.

Add on.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
62. I think WaPo was right on Romney's heels
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:35 AM
Nov 2012

...as a representative of globalist, war mongering clepto-crats to the point where this endorsement kind of looks like a flip itself.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
2. Better late than never
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 01:24 PM
Nov 2012

I'm sure the fact that Romney very nearly almost pulled it off will be seen as thrilling by the klepto class, and these tactics will be mimicked and refined for years to come. The sad truth is the media never really gave a shit about his tax returns, to the point where Harry Reid had to drive the coverage for two full weeks.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
11. Heroic effort by Harry, and I think he did it because he knew
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 02:04 PM
Nov 2012

we couldn't count on the media. That plus his utter disdain for Romney. I will always revere him for what he did.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
13. He just shanked him like in prison and did it with that quiet demeanor of his. One of
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 02:07 PM
Nov 2012

this year's highlights for sure.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
4. That's the way to make Myth a member of the castrati! Really like
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 01:35 PM
Nov 2012

the last paragraph:

Mr. Romney, by contrast, seems to be betting that voters have no memories, poor arithmetic skills and a general inability to look behind the curtain. We hope the results Tuesday prove him wrong.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
5. Unfortunately, whatever is in the Washington Post
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 01:41 PM
Nov 2012

is little more than "court gossip."

Anyone who reads the WaPo is already firmly in one camp or the other.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
6. Too little ... too late. It's ass-covering time, along with a long list of "endorsements" too late
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 01:45 PM
Nov 2012

to change voters minds, maybe a few that might have stayed at home would be encouraged, but nothing game changing.

DaveJ

(5,023 posts)
29. We also don't often consider...
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 03:33 PM
Nov 2012

...anti-social individuals who would actually pay money to see civilization burn to the ground. There are plenty of them and they also vote.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
36. Or maybe just 47%
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 03:55 PM
Nov 2012

Such statements rival romney's disdain for voters.
'Everyone is stupid but me and my friends' is not a very good starting point for winning elections.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
12. In any other election Mitt wouldn't stand a chance with Republicans,...
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 02:06 PM
Nov 2012

All through the primaries he had 30% or less approval with his own party and was BUSTED stuffing ballots at one point. The ONLY reason he won the nomination was because of the people they put up against him and even then he only got a plurality from a split decision. This was why Ron Paul supporters thought they had a shot and they watched the Party screw them out of some of their wins. Those Ron Paul supporters will NOT vote for Romney. Then there's the Libertarian Right that can't stand the guy either.

The entire basis for Republicans at this point to vote for Romney is a combination of general party loyalty, their CEO worship (which is a lot more limited than you might think) and hatred of Obama. For those who believe that racism is a big factor, OF COURSE IT IS but the racists tried to stop the black guy the last time and failed miserably and there were other reasons to support the Ghost and Mrs. Moran.

BTW: Anyone seen Ryan? Did Romney send him to Cheney's "undisclosed location"?

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
15. "his chronic, baldly dishonest defense of mathematically impossible budget proposals"
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 02:17 PM
Nov 2012

That describes every lying (R)epuke since Abraham Lincoln. Sadly, the article leaves out (R) support of torture as money seems to be the only thing that is even mentionable in politics today.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
22. Since Lincoln?
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 02:50 PM
Nov 2012

That's a bit extreme and insults some fine Presidents and some moderate ones as well.

Since and including Nixon, then I can agree.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
28. Agreed. I have to stick up for TR and Ike.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 03:13 PM
Nov 2012

They were good men and good presidents, though with faults like all the rest of us.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
33. Teddy is pretty much responsible for the R right shift
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 03:40 PM
Nov 2012

He split the progressives out with the Bull Moose party who subsequently pretty much went with Franklin to the Democratic party later.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
34. I'd love to see TR take on today's repukes.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 03:45 PM
Nov 2012

He'd load his elephant gun with rock salt and blow their butts to hell and back.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
16. And for the reasons stated in the editorial, if Romney were elected he would not be able to govern.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 02:20 PM
Nov 2012

Not only would the Democrats be against him but all of the Republicans as well.

He hasn't put out a platform to build support on and therefore when it comes to governing would have no allies.

A lot of Republicans know this. Many good ones will, in the privacy of the ballot box, give Mr. Romney their true opinion.
 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
25. "...if Romney were elected he would not be able to govern." He's not LOOKING to "govern." he's out
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 03:06 PM
Nov 2012

to LOOT.

If Romney could out-source the entire nation, HE WOULD.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
17. All of the media is at fault
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 02:21 PM
Nov 2012

All of the media and their reporters should have never let Mitt Romney get away with his lying and flip flops. They should have held him accountable. To do other wise makes a candidate treat the whole system as a joke. That is just what Mitt Romney and his campaign has done. Made the electoral process into their own private joke.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
20. Did he ever release the promised 2011 return?
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 02:40 PM
Nov 2012

All I remember is his releasing a one-page summary saying his accountant would send out the full return one of these days, maybe after the accountant got done doing his laundry.

And that summary wasn't really about 2011, it was just his way of saying "I've always paid at least 14% of the income I don't have sheltered in illegal offshore tax havens, as long as you let me consider money put into complex tax evasion schemes involving the Mormon church as charitable contributions."

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
23. this is surprising...and good
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 02:53 PM
Nov 2012

it's the contempt....stupid...not of the 47% but of the 100%. Yes, he's even lying to his own, the .01%. Of course, not all in that group care.

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
24. Fact is it is sociopathic !
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 02:56 PM
Nov 2012

But the method is clear- his 47% blunder was the major blow. It resonated than stuck -no short memories to be found.

Since that broke, it has been lies and lies and mores lies on end ,serial flip flopping and on and so on.

He has to think or they do ,the voters will create excuses for all those lies and flip flops.

All the lies and flip flop will make the 47 % blunder just another thing said to please a select few.

It leaves the voter to believe what the voter wants to believe about what he really is all about- if the voter is more-so R leaning -the voter may very well vote for what the voters thinks the R party is. !

About like those young republican reformers thought.
Oh yes they miss those 80's.

Romney is a serial lier -it's sociopathic -but he has a method.



Through all the craziness -they have a plan.

Look at it this way- they figure if you are out of a job, looking for work -even desperate -or & worried about keeping your job, Through all those lies and flip flops ,they figure you would figure and understand that Romney will say anything to get the job as would you if you were desperate.

After the 47 % thing went viral the Romney campaign became desperate.

All bad publicity is good publicity to them at this point.

It's almost brilliant - They want to get the voter to vote for what the voter will want to think Romney is REALLY all about. So the voter would be voting for whatever the voter really wants to believe.

It's sociopathic.

spooky3

(34,460 posts)
38. They just had to throw in false equivalence at the end.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 04:12 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Fri Nov 2, 2012, 10:14 PM - Edit history (1)

They accused Obama's campaign of bad behavior without specific evidence. This phony, unsupported "fair and balanced" crap undermines the value of the piece.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
39. This Actually Goes Too Soft On Romney
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 04:24 PM
Nov 2012

Much of Romney's message has been downright cruel, whether it was his comment in the debate that his health care plan that would replace Obamacare would cover pre-existing conditions, giving false hope to those so affected, or saying in Ohio near a Jeep plant that he "heard that Jeep was moving all production to China", driving fear into the hearts of those Jeep workers, the Jeep suppliers and their workers. Romney is simply not a good person. He has no character whatsoever. He would take his sissors to the hair of America like he did back in his high school days. Republicans need to take their lumps this election, regroup and come back in four years.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
43. Mitt Romney epitomizes the moral character of the Republican Party
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 05:17 PM
Nov 2012

The only reason why a creature so foul as presidential candidate Mitt Romney could exist is because the party behind him is basically a legion of lowlives with the moral character of charles manson. It's enough that they've twisted the bible and Christianity, and they have claimed that they speak for god, that they mislead millions of people as to what Jesus was all about. These people make the level of evil of villains in movies look amateurish.

Not that all of you here didn't already know this....

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
40. I wish the rest of the news media had the courage to be as blunt as that
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 04:59 PM
Nov 2012

Romney is perhaps the most disqualified candidate to be so close to getting the presidency in a long time. Romney makes Bush look innocent. Anyone who's saying so many lies and betting on the immaturity and ignorance of the public is truly Anti-American and a true scumbag. Romney is basically the caricature of the lying, two faced politician.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
45. Good for Op/Ed Writers....
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 07:40 PM
Nov 2012

When they TELL THE FREAKING TRUTH! Romney is not a candidate that anyone should vote for because frankly, he's a joke.

Thank you Washington Post Editorial Board!

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
47. His position is
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 08:32 PM
Nov 2012

...Straight forward: He's rich, he's always gotten what he wanted and it's his turn. Because he's him. He can't understand why that's not enough and why we just don't get it.

VPStoltz

(1,295 posts)
50. Candidates pander, that's part of the terrain, but NEVER - EVER - EVER...
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 10:52 PM
Nov 2012

has there been a candidate so willing so say just about anything - and sound SOOOOO wrong - to get elected as Robbedme has done.
The amount of $ he and his friends have spend on making him look like a fool could have brought the unemployment rate down a couple points.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
59. where were these aholes, and the rest of the msm, when it would have made a real difference? even
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:00 AM
Nov 2012

if he loses, Romney will set the standard for future big lie campaigns. this will be the template, as long as media let pols lie without compunction or consequence.

eqfan592

(5,963 posts)
60. This was awesome.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:05 AM
Nov 2012

Shared it immediately to facebook. I'm sure my FB friends will be damned glad when the election is over.

99 Percent Sure

(404 posts)
61. 4 Proper Nouns, 5 Syllables --
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:57 AM
Nov 2012

Karl "Turd Blossom" Rove, along with the gang of 15-16 other GOP traitors to the US, including Gingrich, McConnell, Cantor and that hack, Luntz. Time: POTUS' Inaugural Night, January 2009. This is the who, the what, the when and the how of Money Boo Boo's elevation. The why is brought to us by corporate industrialists such as the Koch Brothers.

Despite this scathing editorial, WP, and most media, still suffer from Dissociative Identity Disorder (split personality) in their campaign coverage. IMO, the race isn't close and never really has been, not even after POTUS' abysmally befuddled 1st debate brought on by high altitude.

Is Lyin' Ryan still on the ticket? After the VPOTUS pimp-slapped him into a stupor, he's pretty much disappeared.

I voted already and my ballots been received/counted. I'm glad it's almost over except the Obama-Biden wins 2nd term shouting. Corporate media's schizophrenia and Money Boo Boo's mendacity have worked my last nerve.

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