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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 08:37 AM Nov 2012

The New York Times needs to FIRE David Brooks!

He is WAY over the top and at long last he has no shame. Here is the paragraph from his column today that drove me over the edge:

"But the president got sucked in by short-term things — the allure of managing the business cycle so that the economy would boom by re-election time. Instead of taking the midterm defeat as a sign he should move to the center, or confound the political categories, he seems to have hunkered down and become more political. Washington dysfunction now looks worse than ever."

Full OpEd here: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/02/opinion/brooks-the-final-reckoning.html?ref=global-home&_r=0

So now Obama is "fixing" the business cycle? How does he do that?

Oh, and BTW, the LTTE today are ALL about his previous column this week and boy, are they complaining!

Brooks lost his mind a while back. Time for an intervention. Get the man psychiatric help and get him OFF the OpEd page for good!

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The New York Times needs to FIRE David Brooks! (Original Post) CTyankee Nov 2012 OP
Yet the editorial board complains about Nate Silver looking too partisan. pointsoflight Nov 2012 #1
Did that statement about "managing the economy" jump out at you CTyankee Nov 2012 #3
Yes, that's statement is insane ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #18
Oh, come on David, you know the President doesn't roll like that Sugarcoated Nov 2012 #21
yea, what else is new quinnox Nov 2012 #2
and get rid of their great comedic talent, no way. grantcart Nov 2012 #4
Brooks is buying into some major conspiracy theory here, IMO. CTyankee Nov 2012 #5
Obama responded to the midterm defeat by extending the Bush tax cuts Enrique Nov 2012 #6
that he did, of course. But that isn't exactly "managing the business cycle" in the way that I CTyankee Nov 2012 #7
it sounds like nonsense Enrique Nov 2012 #9
Well, if you want the full "treatment" yes, you should read it. But check it out as a favor and let CTyankee Nov 2012 #15
ok I read it and it makes perfect sense Enrique Nov 2012 #16
The 99 percent don't want deficit reduction. Fawke Em Nov 2012 #30
Which is why they're banging the drum so hard Hydra Nov 2012 #31
Brooks is a human dribble glass byeya Nov 2012 #8
For a complete takedown of David Brook's bullshit.... hwmnbn Nov 2012 #10
Excellent piece. Also, read the NYT LTTE today for reaction to that earlier Brooks column this week. CTyankee Nov 2012 #12
The Times should fire an opinion writer because he voices an opinion onenote Nov 2012 #11
Well, I guess the NYT should publish outlandish conspiracy theories in their OpEd selections then. CTyankee Nov 2012 #14
Cass Sunstein, is that you? Octafish Nov 2012 #20
Don't know about Sunstein's ideas, but wild assertions without any accompanying documentation or CTyankee Nov 2012 #25
Move to the Center? What party is that what won't compromise? Justice Nov 2012 #13
Brooks is a weenie! RevStPatrick Nov 2012 #17
Brooks is a Moonie. Octafish Nov 2012 #19
Brooks is a weenie moonie. Uncle Joe Nov 2012 #22
what's wrong with the economy booming anyway? NoMoreWarNow Nov 2012 #23
I'd support this cyglet Nov 2012 #24
Once he's medicated it will all stop. CTyankee Nov 2012 #26
Ah, but this is what sells question everything Nov 2012 #27
David Brooks is an ambulatory turd hifiguy Nov 2012 #28
Brooks to Fox Yul A Nov 2012 #29

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
3. Did that statement about "managing the economy" jump out at you
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 08:45 AM
Nov 2012

or am I getting paranoid myself?

Am I the only one who thinks that is an insane claim for him to make?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
18. Yes, that's statement is insane ...
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 11:20 AM
Nov 2012

especially so, when one listens to the gop's other arguments: President Obama is inept/incompetent/shows no leadership. And, government can't create jobs.

So taken together, "President Obama is inept/incompetent/shows no leadership; but he is ept/competent/leadership-able enough to engineer the business cycle to the degree as to be able to time job creation to coincide with the final week(s) of the election"?

Yeah ... Right! Insanity reigns in the gop.

Sugarcoated

(7,724 posts)
21. Oh, come on David, you know the President doesn't roll like that
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 11:29 AM
Nov 2012

LOL, actually it's the Repukes who timed it perfectly, THERY'RE the ones that stonewalled EVERYTHING while the President kept trying and trying to work with them.

Nice try Brooks

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
4. and get rid of their great comedic talent, no way.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 08:47 AM
Nov 2012

Brooks has published some blistering attacks on Romney and this is his way of trying to establish some peace with his Republican buddies and remain 'on the right'.

It is really silly babble.

"managing the business cycle would boom" is exactly what 99% of the country would like the President to be doing following Brooks love child Bush crashing it into the rocks.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
5. Brooks is buying into some major conspiracy theory here, IMO.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 08:50 AM
Nov 2012

That is not a rational statement and nowhere does he offer any proof that it is happening the way he implies...

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
6. Obama responded to the midterm defeat by extending the Bush tax cuts
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 09:02 AM
Nov 2012

David Brooks lauded him at the time:

Dec 10 2010

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/10/opinion/10brooks.html?_r=0

The big story of the week is that Obama is returning to first principles, re-establishing himself as a network liberal. This isn’t a move to the center or triangulation. It’s not the Clinton model or the Truman model or any of the other stale categories people are trying to impose on him. It’s standing at one spot in the political universe and trying to build temporarily alliances with people at other spots in the political universe.

You don’t have to abandon your principles to cut a deal. You just have to acknowledge that there are other people in the world and even a president doesn’t get to stamp his foot and have his way.

Cluster liberals in the House and the commentariat are angry. They have no strategy for how Obama could have better played his weak hand — with a coming Republican majority, an expiring tax law and several Democratic senators from red states insisting on extending all the cuts. They just sense the waning of their moment and are howling in protest.

They believe nonliberals are blackmailers or hostage-takers or the concentrated repositories of human evil, so, of course, they see coalition-building as collaboration. They are also convinced that Democrats should never start a negotiation because they will always end up losing in the end. (Perhaps psychologists can explain the interesting combination: intellectual self-confidence alongside a political inferiority complex).

The fact is, Obama and the Democrats have had an excellent week. The White House negotiators did an outstanding job for their side. With little leverage, they got not only the unemployment insurance, but also an Earned Income Tax Credit provision, a college scholarship provision and other Democratic goodies. With little leverage, they got a package that could win grudging praise from big-name liberal groups like the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities and the Center for American Progress.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
7. that he did, of course. But that isn't exactly "managing the business cycle" in the way that I
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 09:06 AM
Nov 2012

interpret Brooks' statement today. He made obama sound Orwellian...

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
9. it sounds like nonsense
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 09:26 AM
Nov 2012

Obama did his stimulus in 2009, not after the midterms And is David Brooks under the impression that we are experiencing a boom? And if we were, and Obama was responsible, would Brooks think it was a bad thing?

I will admit, I did not read any of the column, should I?

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
15. Well, if you want the full "treatment" yes, you should read it. But check it out as a favor and let
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 09:47 AM
Nov 2012

me know if you think I'm just suffering from some heebie-jeebies...

I should probably just chill...

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
16. ok I read it and it makes perfect sense
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 09:57 AM
Nov 2012

Brooks is assuming Obama is going to win, and he is telling Obama what he needs to do in his second term to please David Brooks. Above all, Simpson-Bowles. I heard a little bit of Bloomberg's endorsement and it sounds like the same thing. Same priority as Brooks, deficit reduction.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
30. The 99 percent don't want deficit reduction.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 12:44 PM
Nov 2012

They want Obama to raise taxes on the rich and, if that's not enough, then they want the administration to look at cutting funding to military contractors and reducing other non-essential military costs. The LAST thing the American people want is for any of our representatives to cut our safety nets and/or the other items we've paid into to maintain.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
31. Which is why they're banging the drum so hard
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 05:18 PM
Nov 2012

The President keeps harping on this "Grand Bargain" along with the water carriers for the 1% for the sole reason that they NEED to sell the idea with enough of the electorate.

Good ideas don't need selling.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
12. Excellent piece. Also, read the NYT LTTE today for reaction to that earlier Brooks column this week.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 09:38 AM
Nov 2012

Howls and cries. Readers are PISSED at Brooks.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
11. The Times should fire an opinion writer because he voices an opinion
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 09:36 AM
Nov 2012

I don't agree with his opinion, but I can't imagine him being fired for having it. And the comparison with Nate is off-base -- he's not an op-ed guy. I don't have a problem with Nate's firing back at Scar, by the way.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
14. Well, I guess the NYT should publish outlandish conspiracy theories in their OpEd selections then.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 09:40 AM
Nov 2012

Maybe they'll get a shitload of protests with this latest manifestation of insanity.

Put Brooks on "medical leave" then...

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
20. Cass Sunstein, is that you?
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 11:28 AM
Nov 2012

The guy thinks anything critical that's conspiracy theory should be censored, even the Bush administration warmongering and assorted treasons.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
25. Don't know about Sunstein's ideas, but wild assertions without any accompanying documentation or
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 12:27 PM
Nov 2012

proof just doesn't rate as good journalism to me. The NYT has standards, n'est-ce pas?

Justice

(7,188 posts)
13. Move to the Center? What party is that what won't compromise?
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 09:39 AM
Nov 2012

What Brooks means is Obama should have caved into McConnell and Boehner.

 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
17. Brooks is a weenie!
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 09:59 AM
Nov 2012

I am contractually obligated to say or type the words "Brooks is a weenie!" every time the man's name is mentioned. I have been doing do since the mid-90's, and I frankly don't get to do it often enough these days.

He's one of those guys who will often appear reasonable, and then his brain just goes off the rails into pure weeniedom. Will he mention that "Washington dysfunction now looks worse than ever..." because the Republans decided to do everything and anything possible to make Obama a one-term president?

Of course not. Weenie!!!

 

NoMoreWarNow

(1,259 posts)
23. what's wrong with the economy booming anyway?
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 11:34 AM
Nov 2012

Sooo idiotic.

Even worse is the statement that Obama didn't try to move to the center. MADDENING!

question everything

(47,487 posts)
27. Ah, but this is what sells
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 12:37 PM
Nov 2012

This is why Fox and MSNBC are so much more popular than CNN. People love controversy, to get into the debates, the fight. Thankfully only via keyboards clicking so far. Palin's map with cross hairs notwithstanding..

For the NYT, Brooks is earning his job.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
28. David Brooks is an ambulatory turd
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 12:41 PM
Nov 2012

and a perfect example of the Peter Principle in action.

He's as worthless, smarmy piece of human sewage.

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