Really Staten Island?????
I've seen the clips from yesterday about 5 times now with those Staten Island residents demanding their assistance and decrying that no one has been there to help. Each time I yell at the TV...
YOU LIVE ON A FUCKIN ISLAND!! and need to take a ferry to get there.
THERE WAS MANDATORY EVACUATION!! and you ignored it choosing to stay.
WHERE ARE YOUR 3 DAYS OF FOOD & WATER? You're told right on the FEMA site to prepare yourself - this is YOUR responsibility!
Sandy hit Monday night so Tuesday was Day 1. FEMA was there on Tuesday. Supplies are coming today. The response is the best of any disaster relief in history.
So STFU!
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Maybe you should try reading what I wrote at the link. It also answers your final question, and underscores why I posted about any of this in the first place (here's a hint: it wasn't to say "I told ya so!"
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I own exactly what I have said here, and stand by it. Only through an intentional misinterpretation of what I have written here and in the thread I linked to could one come to the conclusions you did here.
Looks like you've never been there. But hey, don't let that stop you from offering your expert opinion!
in understanding your first comment, which appeared to be a generalized, out of thin air remark.
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You will not starve in 3 days. We have to all start to think for ourselves and work on a more grass root level. This is why the Rightwing nutjobs have fuel to feed their fire. I was a libertarian in the 70's before it was cool when the movement was more about personal and social responsibility not a political movement.
Big L is a system won't work on a national level but is something I believe we can foster within our communities. The more unreliant you make yourself, the more you can help those around you that don't have the skills or resources.
How many of you know how to make a composting toilet or how to dispose of your waste so not to endanger others , passive heating or how to clean your water without boiling.
Just think how cool it would be to have a cookout in the middle of your street with the food that is thawing in your fridge on a solar cooker for a neighborhood party.
I want the resources spent making the streets safe, restoring power, finding and helping the injured, traped and dead.
On NPR there was a story about the great people who climbed tall dark stairwells to feed the shut ins and it only now occurred to me why hasn't someone else in that 25 floor building offered to run the steps so the volunteers are able to help everyone who needs it.
Sorry for the rant, 
I tried to write a more coherent advocacy for your post but it's 5:50 am in CA and I'm still on my first cup of coffee.
But add another voice for the self-suffiiciency, sustainability movement. 
That sounds very much like a repuke talking point that was used during Katrina to the poor people in the lower 9th ward.
Helping people is universal, as is compassion.
Try it, it's all the rage.
The last thing we need to do now is start blaming people for a storm or storm preparedness. There are times when we all make bad decisions. We usually don't take into account all of the possibilities. Nor do we think the consequences will be as severe when we decide differently than we are told. But in instances of Mandatory evacuations I think it is then time for the National
guard to order them out of their homes. And it is true by now everyone in America knows that All Storms are unpredictable. Everyone should have copies of important documents such as Birth Certificates and social security cards in a ziploc bag in an easily accessible place to get to in case of emergency. Yes we all need to have a sense of Storm Awareness. But after the fact is useless. Now that we are dealing with the aftermath, it is our duty to help them. It is also our duty to remind people that this is one of the consequences they may face when trying to ride out these unpredictable storms. And the only one I heard was Governor Christie saying that once the storm came that he may not be able to get to some people right away. And that if they chose not to evacuate that it may put them in peril!! I somehow must also believe that if you feed your sheep a lot of misleading statements all their lives, when are they to believe the truth. Republicans have always been non-believers of global warming and climate change data. And their belief is rooted in oil companies.
or the 4th-longest steel-arch bridge..
See: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1691523
1. The evacuation was not for the entire island.
2. Many areas that were not in Zones A(mandatory evacuation) B (moderate likelyhood of evacuation) or C (possible but unlikely to be evacuated), were absolutely devistated.
This photo is from a street where there was absolutely no evacuation Yetman Ave.
Where do you think their 5 day supply of food and water is?
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But when it comes to actual response most Americans are clueless. I now have to conclude you are average to down right clueless.
I am not going to tell you how to think, nor what to do.
You answered to a post where I pointed out bodies will still be found...that is reality.
Where I pointed to the obvious lessons from this storm, free clue, they will become more frequent, that my dear is science.
That has nothing to do with being compassionate. In disasters, this is one, things are that stark.
You have a problem with the thread...here are two pieces of advice...trash thread...it works, or/ and put those of us a-holes in your mind, on ignore.
What is true is that this magical thinking that all should be fine is just that, magical.
I actually have done it, like for real. I'm an astronaut.
how you will react. 
1) Long Island's barrier islands -- the Rockaways, Coney Island -- and Staten Island (which is NOT a barrier island) are full of working class and working poor people. There are housing projects there. I don't think these people specifically "wanted" an ocean view.
2) Why should I subsidize your health insurance if you just ate a doughnut? You do realize this is DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND, right? Not Every Cowboy for Hisself Underground.
Can you pass the bucket, please? 
Note I agree with you - this board has become almost like a Freeper exile colony, at times.
That looks like a lot, but the western edge is largely industrial and thinly populated.
Also, there are no fewer than four bridges to Staten Island: the Verrazano-Narrows to Brooklyn, and the Bayonne, Goethals and Outerbridge Crossing to New Jersey. The ferry makes it easier to commute to Lower Manhattan (Wall Street).
