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Turborama

(22,109 posts)
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:15 PM Nov 2012

Meanwhile, Second Chinese Stealth Fighter Makes Test Flight


A Chinese J-20 stealth jet. The J-31 spotted this week is smaller and nimbler. Photograph: AP
Associated Press in Beijing
guardian.co.uk, Thu 1 Nov 2012 12.34 GMT

China has test-flown a second model of a prototype stealth fighter, aviation experts said. Photos posted online on Thursday showed the aircraft airborne with its landing gear down near the north-eastern city of Shenyang. Two Chinese-made J-11 fighters accompanied it on the flight, which Chinese military enthusiast websites said took place on Wednesday and lasted about 10 minutes.

Ross Babbage, of Australia's Kokoda Foundation, and Greg Waldron, of Flightglobal magazine in Singapore, said the plane, known as the J-31, appeared to be a smaller version of the J-20 prototype that was tested last year in Chengdu.

Both planes feature stealth design features but their true capabilities in terms of sensors, radar-absorbing coatings and other factors remain unknown. It is not known when, or if, either plane will go into production. "I think it's a fairly straightforward evolution to develop advanced fighters at this time, but you can't read too much into it in terms of capabilities," Waldron said. He said the smaller and nimbler J-31 appeared intended for a fighter-interceptor role similar to the US Joint Strike Fighter, and the heavier J-20 could target airfields, warships and other ground targets.

The technical barriers and development costs for such aircraft are enormous and the US has struggled for years to deliver on their potential. Babbage said another challenge for China was developing engines reliable and capable enough for such cutting-edge aircraft.

China remains overwhelmingly reliant on Russia for engines for its latest J-10, J-11, and J-15 models, the last two of which were developed from Russian Sukhoi fighter-bombers. "The demands in the engine area are very substantial," Babbage said. Despite that, the ability to develop two prototype stealth fighters at the same time demonstrates an impressive capability on the part of the Chinese industry, he said. "It's a very interesting development. It shows how rapidly they're moving ahead.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/01/second-chinese-stealth-fighter-test

Updating with a pic of the J-31 I just found on The Telegraph's article on this...



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9647722/China-makes-first-test-flight-of-new-stealth-fighter-jet.html
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Meanwhile, Second Chinese Stealth Fighter Makes Test Flight (Original Post) Turborama Nov 2012 OP
I relate this back to outsourcing Western manufacturing to China Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #1
Also the plane Stupid donated to them to disassemble Warpy Nov 2012 #2
Yeah, there's that, too. Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #3
The MIC needs the Chinese to develope modern war planes Johnyawl Nov 2012 #5
Good point, well made Turborama Nov 2012 #4

Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
1. I relate this back to outsourcing Western manufacturing to China
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:21 PM
Nov 2012

They have some very high tech capabilities thanks to us sending our manufacturing and tooling there.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
2. Also the plane Stupid donated to them to disassemble
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:25 PM
Nov 2012

when he first took office. I knew that would come back to bite us, didn't you?

Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)
5. The MIC needs the Chinese to develope modern war planes
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:54 PM
Nov 2012

How else are we going to justify the budget breaking J-35? Most of the press for this, and the non-operational chinese aircraft carrier, is coming from our MIC.

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
4. Good point, well made
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:32 PM
Nov 2012

I hadn't thought about that until you mention it, makes one wonder what else we've helped them up their capability with...

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