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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 09:29 PM Nov 2012

anthromorphing Sandy

I know some here are talking about Mother Earth, of Gaia's anger and warnings.

This may offend you, but in many ways, that is part of the problem, the same problem that comes about when people think Daddy sky God Jehovah did this to punish America.

There is no intellgence to appeal to, or reason with. As George Carlin pointed out, for all we know, the Earth wanted plastic, and we were just a quick means to get it. The only thing that has a chance to improve things as science; neither the Shaman nor the Preacher can do anything to pray for rain, or do anything to make it stop.

Yes, Myths do point to things that are either within our mind, or unable to be classified and understood YET. Myths do give us strength, adn often, a bit of faith does allow someone to survive while the odds say they should have died.

But make no mistake, if we want Humanity to stop killing itself, nothing else but hard cold facts, and fear, will do it.

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anthromorphing Sandy (Original Post) DonCoquixote Nov 2012 OP
Ive very recently came to reject this idea NoOneMan Nov 2012 #1
Don't anthropomorphize nature hootinholler Nov 2012 #2
"Nature created "barrier islands" as..." cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #3
You have a good point, however, it is biology and science that have determined there is a libdem4life Nov 2012 #4
 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
1. Ive very recently came to reject this idea
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 09:46 PM
Nov 2012

While I abhor imaginary best friends in the sky, I highly feel humans need more than just science (or our bastardization of it) to feel the responsibility to fix this issue (and the way to). There is room for something a little more; perhaps a sense of community and our integral place in it. Scientifically speaking, we are compose of the same very atomic particles of all matter and all nature. We are, on an atomic level, interchangable with the sun, trees, moon and all parts of the universe. Unfortunately, on a spirtual level, we lack this very sense of community and simple facts won't invoke it.

There is room for awe and divinity in the nature of our universe and our existence. We are part of the community of the earth on both an atomic and biological level--not its god-given owner, or even its "steward". We have followed these principles since the dawn of man and lived in balance with nature, symbiotically, for almost a hundred thousand years. Its been a mere blink--a fraction in time--that one technologically superior, growth obsessed group of homo sapiens has converted or conquered everyone else to push its infinite expansion upon the earth (using both science and religion to further their goals).

Lately I've been thinking that perhaps the Pantheists have a good idea, and even if its notion might strike some as "silly", the recognition of our instinct to live with nature and revel in the divinity of the universe is beneficial for our very survival. We are at a critical point in time...and honestly, I don't care what makes people want to change (if its the FSM, Im cool with that as well). But if you can't inspire people to do it with numbers, record droughts, famines even, then I say reach in your tool bag and figure anything else out. Otherwise, its extinction.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
4. You have a good point, however, it is biology and science that have determined there is a
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:27 PM
Nov 2012

difference between an egg and a sperm...and we have men and women, yin and yang, and it takes both. The ancients worshiped a Divine Father and a Divine Mother, in differing forms of ascendancy based on lineage or culture. But it's short of a Divine Big Bang coming on the scene...which doesn't have a warm ring to it.

So, we're likely stuck with those who are able to give birth and those who can't but protect those who can as a basic separation of genders and attributes and procreation of the species. The realities of Sun and Moon, Day and Night, inner and outer, negative and positive construct a continuum, not a dyad.

In the current conversation, Father Sky and Mother Earth pretty much teamed up on this one.

Just another thoughtful opinion.

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