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ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 06:26 PM Nov 2012

CBS still on Benghazi - hit piece on Obama

Interesting timing of this...VERY interesting:

CBS News has learned that during the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Mission in Benghazi, the Obama Administration did not convene its top interagency counterterrorism resource: the Counterterrorism Security Group, (CSG).

"The CSG is the one group that's supposed to know what resources every agency has. They know of multiple options and have the ability to coordinate counterterrorism assets across all the agencies," a high-ranking government official told CBS News. "They were not allowed to do their job. They were not called upon."

Information shared with CBS News from top counterterrorism sources in the government and military reveal keen frustration over the U.S. response on Sept. 11, the night ambassador Chris Stevens and 3 other Americans were killed in a coordinated attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya.



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57544026/sources-key-task-force-not-convened-during-benghazi-consulate-attack

Now, if the President and security personnel didn't even goddamned know if this was a coordinated terrorist attack, or a reaction to that stupid video, why would they convene the CSG until or unless they had this information and were certain about what they were dealing with?

Note the article says that DURING the attack. How the FUCK would Obama or anyone for that matter know who they were dealing with DURING the attack? They didn't. They didn't know if it was a coordinated terrorist attack or a reaction to the video. So why the hell would they have convened this CSG group?

Is it just me or is are GOP, Tealiban, and their respective media mouthpieces reaching for straws here as a last-ditch effort to keep Obama from winning the election - manufacturing smear jobs and seemingly senseless hit-pieces like this?

Am I missing something here?
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CBS still on Benghazi - hit piece on Obama (Original Post) ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 OP
We'll know in just a few seconds if Pelley leads with this... eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #1
Regardless of whether or not they knew, would they have had time, after FVZA_Colonel Nov 2012 #2
there have been reports favorable to the administration Enrique Nov 2012 #3
It's really bad reporting. One-sided, uninvestigated ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #6
Gee, not quite as bad warrprayer Nov 2012 #4
+1000 Art_from_Ark Nov 2012 #29
CBS News must be understaffed lpbk2713 Nov 2012 #5
"Am I missing something here?" YES and it will take months if ever to uncover all the facts jody Nov 2012 #7
That's exactly why I question the timing of such reports. n/t ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #8
Funny how absolutely NOBODY in the media wants to talk about the "filmmaker" Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #9
The idea that this attack had anything to do with the film SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #10
No dennis4868 Nov 2012 #11
Not according to the State Department SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #17
First of all this doesn't make a difference dennis4868 Nov 2012 #18
I think it does make a difference SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #26
So it's just a coincidence that the attack happened during a protest against the movie that turned Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #15
This is what the CIA is saying dennis4868 Nov 2012 #19
No, the CIA isn't saying that SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #27
Granted is was a terrible event but Benghazi is not an issue.. DCBob Nov 2012 #12
I'm still waiting for CBS' expose' on how Bush/Cheney ignored intelligence leading to 9/11 progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #13
That will be a CBS Special.....in 2051. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #24
"the existence of the August PDB was first revealed by CBS News' David Martin" Enrique Nov 2012 #25
issa outs 3 Libyans working for the cia madrchsod Nov 2012 #14
I just don't understand Faith9326 Nov 2012 #16
Because people want to impeach dennis4868 Nov 2012 #20
CIA just released a timeline of their actions Bolo Boffin Nov 2012 #21
Meanwhile, Dan Rather was fired..... WinkyDink Nov 2012 #22
You mean people still watch CBS Nightly News? kydo Nov 2012 #23
Presidential Daily Briefing: Osama Bin Laden determined to attack United States. Lex Nov 2012 #28
and when CBS News broke that story Enrique Nov 2012 #30
 

FVZA_Colonel

(4,096 posts)
2. Regardless of whether or not they knew, would they have had time, after
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 06:32 PM
Nov 2012

coordinating an immediate response, before the attack was over?

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
3. there have been reports favorable to the administration
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 06:33 PM
Nov 2012

for example the report about the CIA briefing which supported their statements about a spontaneous attack. The favorable reports are not necessarily "covering for" the administration, and the negative ones aren't necessarily "hit pieces". They are just reporting.

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
6. It's really bad reporting. One-sided, uninvestigated
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 06:43 PM
Nov 2012

incomplete, and the timing as I say, is very interesting.

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
4. Gee, not quite as bad
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 06:34 PM
Nov 2012

... as letting some people fly three airliners into some buildings killing thousands of Americans, is it CBS? Assholes.

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
7. "Am I missing something here?" YES and it will take months if ever to uncover all the facts
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 06:50 PM
Nov 2012

and fix blame if any is deserved.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
9. Funny how absolutely NOBODY in the media wants to talk about the "filmmaker"
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 07:01 PM
Nov 2012

and his connections anymore...Along with just WHO helped get enough people whirled up in a spittin' rage over there...

Those were the questions I had from the start, and they still remain mostly unanswered...

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
17. Not according to the State Department
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 07:23 PM
Nov 2012
The State Department now says it never believed the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, was a film protest gone awry .... The State Department's extraordinary break with other administration offices came in a department briefing Tuesday, where officials said "others" in the executive branch concluded initially that the protest was based, like others in the Middle East, on a film that ridiculed the Prophet Muhammad. That was never the department's conclusion, a senior official told reporters.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/10/10/state_department_says_innocence_of_muslims_didn_t_prompt_benghazi_attack.html

There is no proof whatsoever to your assertion that this was started by a film.

dennis4868

(9,774 posts)
18. First of all this doesn't make a difference
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 07:27 PM
Nov 2012

And I saw a report (have to find it) that the CIA still feels the video started the protesting. People other than the militant group were protesting. It's still not clear.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
26. I think it does make a difference
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 07:54 PM
Nov 2012

To me, there is a huge difference between a spontaneous reaction and a planned attack, but YMMV.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
15. So it's just a coincidence that the attack happened during a protest against the movie that turned
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 07:21 PM
Nov 2012

violent?

Even if the embassy/CIA attackers and organizers of the movie riots are two completely different groups, the timing still suggests some kind of collusion....

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
27. No, the CIA isn't saying that
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 07:59 PM
Nov 2012
On Thursday, intelligence officials said they had early information that the attackers had ties to al-Qaida-linked groups, but did not make it public immediately because it was based on classified intelligence. And they said the early public comments about the attack and its genesis were cautious and limited, as they routinely are in such incidents.

They added that while intelligence officials indicated early on that extremists were involved in the assault, only later were officials able to confirm that the attack was not generated by a protest over the film.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h5dFLv_VbErb9yVHME7LKUiCvEfA?docId=edeb551412dd4de68875d3ae5c950591

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
12. Granted is was a terrible event but Benghazi is not an issue..
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 07:16 PM
Nov 2012

for the vast majority of Americans at this point in time.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
13. I'm still waiting for CBS' expose' on how Bush/Cheney ignored intelligence leading to 9/11
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 07:18 PM
Nov 2012

Yeah.. still waiting on that. Fuck them...

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
25. "the existence of the August PDB was first revealed by CBS News' David Martin"
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 07:37 PM
Nov 2012
http://www.thenation.com/blog/156081/condis-cover-caves#

The existence of the August 6 PDB was first revealed by CBS News' David Martin on May 15, 2002. But Martin's report only referred to the PDB in one sentence that noted the PDB had warned that an attack by bin Laden could involve hijacking U.S. aircraft. CBS did not report the title of the briefing or any other material it contained. A media furor erupted after the White House acknowledged Bush had received this PDB. The day after the CBS News report, The New York Times carried a front-page story with a headline declaring, "Bush Was Warned Bin Laden Wanted To Hijack Planes."

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
14. issa outs 3 Libyans working for the cia
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 07:21 PM
Nov 2012

he also outs the location of the cia base in Libya.

issa walks away with big pat on the back from the msm media and his fellow republicans

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
21. CIA just released a timeline of their actions
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 07:32 PM
Nov 2012
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-rushed-to-save-diplomats-as-libya-attack-was-underway/2012/11/01/c93a4f96-246d-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_story.html?wpisrc=al_national

U.S. intelligence officials insisted that CIA operatives in Benghazi and Tripoli made decisions rapidly throughout the assault with no interference from Washington, even while acknowledging that CIA security forces were badly outmatched and largely unable to mobilize Libyan security teams until it was too late.

Among the new disclosures is that the CIA station chief in Tripoli sent an emergency security force, with about a half-dozen agency operatives as well as two U.S. military personnel, to Benghazi aboard a hastily chartered aircraft while the attack was underway.

The CIA team attempted to organize an effort to make its way to a hospital where U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens had been taken and was thought to be still alive. But the team was held up by Libyan officials at the airport and scrapped the plan to reach Stevens after learning that the security situation at the hospital was uncertain.


The only difference between Benghazi Trutherism and 9/11 Truth is that BT has a major news network and leaders of the opposition party pumping it up.

kydo

(2,679 posts)
23. You mean people still watch CBS Nightly News?
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 07:35 PM
Nov 2012

I haven't watched a nightly news program on regular broadcast tv since cable news started, about 1982. I do still read the newspaper, either online or in print. But I get most of my news online or cable news either msnbc, cnn or my local cable channel.

And this whole Libya stuff is not as important as other things right this moment. I am not saying it does not matter because it does matter. Its just right now other things matter more. The events in Libya were tragic especially for those who died and their family and friends. But we can't change that.

The repugs are politicizing this which makes it even more tragic.

Lex

(34,108 posts)
28. Presidential Daily Briefing: Osama Bin Laden determined to attack United States.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 08:01 PM
Nov 2012

That's the September 11 failure I always think about.

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