My Republican Friend, Sort Of

[Unknown Beatle]

I have a friendship with a Republican person I've known since 1969. We've talked politics all through the years, both RW and liberal points of view without ever getting into an argument, that is until McMonkey became our faux president.

Something happened when Shrub came into power. Political discourse with republicans became impossible. Republicans became very intolerable to anyone saying negative things about their party, even the truth.

Bill Maher was fired from ABC, Dan Rather was fired from CBS, and the Dixie Chicks were demonized for daring to tell the truth or for questioning W.

Anyway, my point being that about two years ago I said something negative about republicans, or, as I like to call it, the truth, while speaking to my RW friend, and I must have said something he didn't like because his response was, "You know what I hate, tax and spend liberals!"

WTF? Tax and spend liberals? He's trying to get to me by saying tax and spend liberals? I told him that was a RW invention to deflect attention from their drunken sailor spending. That tax and spend liberal meme was a republican talking point that didn't make sense since the economy always improves under a democratic president. That under president Clinton, we had a surplus and when McMonkey became our faux president, he blew through the money like ten thousand crack addicts. His response, "if it wasn't for the republican controlled houses, Clinton would have never been able to have a surplus."

Oh shit! Another republican meme. It wasn't Clinton that created the surplus, it was both republican houses of congress that created the surplus. Bullshit! I told him that since republicans love to spend, how did they manage to acquire a surplus? He went on with the usual republican talking points and at that point, I realized that there's no getting a die hard republican to change their minds no matter what facts are presented to them.

We still keep in touch and we never talk politics anymore, thanks to the likes of Rove, Rush, Beck, and O'Reilly.

[Rambis]

1. You cannot discuss things logically

You can't argue with them because they just spew another talking point. I usually just keep hitting them with facts until they explode an yell something in frustration anyway. Last one big row I had with a fundie was a gay marriage discussion. Him it is about biology, no domination, no this, no that, traditional marriage......

finally I said you just don't like gay people admit it!

Him ok, I hate ****

I said see if you had only said that an hour and a half ago I would have walked away from you that much sooner!

He then divorced his wife and three kids and has another baby with a girlfriend. I have always wanted to ask if his marriage fell apart because of the gay?

[JoePhilly]

2. Ask your friend how the same GOP congress that created the surplus under Clinton

turned around and spent it all as soon as Bush took office.

I mean, if the GOP congress created the surplus while Clinton was President, it only stands to reason that said surplus would INCREASE with that same GOP congress plus a GOP President.

But that did not happen. The only change was Clinton leaving office.

My right wing friend hated it when I pointed this out.

[Aerows]

3. Advent of Fox News

That's what destroyed us with regard to political discourse. Murdoch broke the back of our nation by reporting untruths, not a national until he bought it, then proceeded to lie, hack and generally distort everything honorable about the profession of journalism.

I love Australians for the most part. Mordoch is the worst, most poisonous human being to come from their shores.