Just Think Of The Consequences If Disaster Relief Were All "Faith Based" And Funds Were Block ---

[TheMastersNemesis]

granted to the churches like Bush wanted or that Romney would do.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

1. This

[corkhead]

2. boxes of expired mac & cheese and cans of 5 year old cranberry sauce for all!

[AsahinaKimi]

4. Does that mean

People would have to eat those 100 year old fruit cakes that get sent around every Christmas, that never get eaten? ( I truly think
those will be the very items that start the zombie apocalypse.)

[A HERETIC I AM]

11. You know, some people actually LIKE fruitcake ..

Not me, of course. Disgusting things

[liberal N proud]

3. Only those who tithed would get help from the church to which they gave.

And it would be proportional.

The real failure to that system comes when the churches suffer loss as well. Lose the church, lose the assistance.

[pipoman]

8. Been to numerous disaster areas and have never seen this

I have seen Mennonite Relief and Baptists right next to each other working together to provide help to disaster victims. Catholics working with Methodists without ever knowing the religious beliefs of anyone they are helping. Most of these denominational relief orgs have people who are from all over the country who converge on disaster areas wherever they arise. During NOLA IIRC faith based aid accounted for over half of the immediate disaster relief...people love to hate religious groups in these parts, doubt the outspoken would turn down hot food, drinking water and warm clothes regardless the source if they themselves were disaster victims..

[patricia92243]

13. My husband tithes - and his church is old and $30k in debt. They couldn't help anybody. People

just don't go to church anymore - like they did in the time of Romney - the 1800's.

[malaise]

5. I just heard the NEW York Red Cross CEO saying that there is no way

they could provide what's needed after a disaster of this magnitude and that they need the governments - federal, state and local.

Fuck everyone who thinks otherwise - greedy fucking assholes.

[pipoman]

10. They need the governments AND

the armies of faith based aid services who are already there and coming.

[get the red out]

6. Bibles when you lose your house

Just pray for a new one, and if you're good enough, God will give it to you.

[gollygee]

7. They'd decide whom they thought was worthy of help and who wasn't

and I'm sure we can all guess whom they would feel was worthy and what groups wouldn't get any help, and would be called moochers anyway.

[pipoman]

9. Guess you've never been to a disaster zone

and seen the disaster relief groups helping the victims...just easier to allow your prejudices to run away with your imagination, eh?

[gollygee]

12. I know how the Salvation Army operates

and that they deny aid to groups they don't like, and there's nothing to stop any faith-based group from doing the same. Obviously, not all groups deny help, but I don't want people to wonder if the group that shows up to help them is going to help them or not.

[malaise]

14. Ditto

That's why I give them nothing

[pipoman]

15. "Nothing to stop" and actually denying aid are 2 different things..

The idea in the OP will never happen...with that in mind, you can choose who you give to. " I don't want people to wonder if the group that shows up to help them is going to help them or not." It isn't like government aid is without strings. They record the personal information of those who receive aid. If you happen to owe back taxes, no aid. If you receive government aid, expect a form 1099 (or the equivalent) for the dollar value you received...wouldn't want anyone to escape paying taxes on their enrichment.

No, in disaster zones people don't have ID and they aren't asked by most of the faith based aid services (any that I have ever seen who are supplying basic, immediate needs). Often the workers scarcely have time to look up to see the face of the person they are helping. People in disaster zones certainly aren't obligated to accept aid or assistance from these groups...in my experience few turn it down when offered regardless the org offering the aid.