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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow the Supreme Court could soon drastically expand the right to carry guns
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/how-the-supreme-court-could-soon-drastically-expand-the-right-to-carry-guns/ar-AAXtSfp?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=77477cec864d4a4295fd441a5cefe698How this case could affect gun laws across the nation: The Supreme Court hasnt weighed in recently on whether the Second Amendment protects carrying guns outside the home. In 2008s District of Columbia v. Heller, the court said the Second Amendment protects the right to own a gun for self-defense in the home, and in McDonald v. Chicago in 2010, it made clear that state and local gun control measures (and not just federal ones) also must respect that right.
If they rule that New Yorks restrictions on carrying a gun in public are unconstitutional, then across the country, there will be lots of laws that will be invalidated right away, said Jerold Levine, a New York City lawyer who focuses on gun cases and supports the challenge to this law.
He said its likely the court will still allow states and municipalities to deny people licenses to carry guns theres no need to worry that murderers will be getting licenses, he said but people wont have to provide a justification for their application.
Levine called this potential change the holy grail of gun rights: This has been the greatest limitation for gun owners now for over 100 years.
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SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)I see ZERO chance that the gun situation will get even a tiny bit better during my lifetime, if ever.
unblock
(52,317 posts)Correction: at best there's no need to worry that *previously convicted* murderers will be getting licenses to carry guns.
But people plotting their first go at it?
Fla Dem
(23,741 posts)Any other ideas?
Fla Dem
(23,741 posts)We also don't have the votes in Congress. So we're trying to govern with one arm tied behind our back. And although we have the House, Senate and WH, the rethugs have the advantage.
"Any other ideas?" While this was a bit of a snide comment, the answer is yes. Win overwhelmingly in November so we don't need Manchin and Sinema's vote anymore in the senate and hold onto / increase our majority in the House.
So "Get Out the Vote'.
LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)
on who wins will be deciding the make up of the court, maybe things would be different. The left would have the court and be able to ban guns, then we would be the ones claiming the protests to hand over guns are not protests but require heavily armed military. As it happens, they got their first, so the left gets to play the protest part and the right plays the the protest is violent we must destroy them part.
We were always going to get here depending on the topic. We were either gonna split over refusing to accept an abortion ban or refusing to hand over guns. Maybe in another timeline DUers are having a grand old time watching noncompliant gun owners gunned down by the military for refusal to hand over semi-autos, but in this timeline they seem to be taking over it all.
Kaleva
(36,341 posts)doc03
(35,364 posts)carry or concealed carry.
Bettie
(16,124 posts)carrying a toy gun, you are likely to be shot dead in seconds for carrying it openly.
Sorry, that one still enrages me...they "thought he was an adult", in an open carry state, but shot him before they even stopped the car.
doc03
(35,364 posts)ripcord
(5,537 posts)Almost anyone can get a carry permit here because the Sheriff accepts any reason you give.
sakabatou
(42,174 posts)What a fucked up country we're gonna live in.
Celerity
(43,497 posts)clad ageing hippie in the kale aisle at Safeway and empty off of a full clip from their beloved and cherished SIG Sauer P320 XCarry Spectre into said hippie's chest simply for sporting a Greenpeace or BLM tee shirt, then walk, scot free.
The humper will bank on using a combo 'stand your ground'/'extended (to public spaces) 'castle doctrine' to claim they are immune from prosecution as they will state that the hippie was an imminent threat to 'their (way of) life' due to Greenpeace/BLM shirt offending and 'scaring' them.
Cosmocat
(14,572 posts)nm
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)It feels like it.
Didn't Kyle Shittinhouse just kill people in the open and get away with it and say he was scared?
Celerity
(43,497 posts)Also the hippie made zero moves in terms of interaction with the humper QMAGAt. They were pumped full of 9mm slugs simply for wearing a Greenpeace or BLM tee shirt.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)So we are getting closer.
Sigh.