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NotANeocon

(423 posts)
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 03:10 PM Mar 2022

So i'm finding this confusing!

I fully understand why the anti womens rights pro deathers get confused and insist that a pregnant human is two people but refuse to discuss how the reproductive graft part can exercise its rights without enslaving the host part - which is unconstitutional.

Now I am seeing two distinct persons being legally treated as a single entity simply because one is a member of the USSC, I understand the holy babble says that with marriage "the two shall become "as" one, but that is symbolism and not reality. There is no proof that Clarence is doing the crime so he can't be automatically charged with Ginni's crimes.

As Yul Brynner reminded us -

There are times I almost think
Nobody sure of what he absolutely know
Everybody find confusion
In conclusion he concluded long ago
And it puzzle me to learn
That tho' a man may be in doubt of what he know
Very quickly he will fight
He'll fight to prove that what he does not know is so!


But... is a puzzlement!

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So i'm finding this confusing! (Original Post) NotANeocon Mar 2022 OP
I found this very confusing. SoonerPride Mar 2022 #1
I'm confused n/t leftstreet Mar 2022 #2
Ok, I just sang that! Thanks for the smile today! Nt woodsprite Mar 2022 #3
not confusing... markie Mar 2022 #4
If his wife was involved in the insurrection Bettie Mar 2022 #5
I think the difference lies between legal jurisprudence and public sentiment Torchlight Mar 2022 #6
Could you clarify this word salad? Crunchy Frog Mar 2022 #7
For clarity - NotANeocon Mar 2022 #16
When has the legal system tried to treat them as one person? nt Crunchy Frog Mar 2022 #19
It is very simple ripcord Mar 2022 #8
True - but NotANeocon Mar 2022 #17
God took a rib from Adam multigraincracker Mar 2022 #9
In KJV Genesis it says NotANeocon Mar 2022 #20
KJV is the trusted version as multigraincracker Mar 2022 #21
Do they have a joint checking account? If so they are one in a entity Walleye Mar 2022 #10
Perhaps I can help alleviate your confusion. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #11
Her texts/emails Zeitghost Mar 2022 #13
IMO this is not about what you think it is mercuryblues Mar 2022 #12
This is not true Zeitghost Mar 2022 #14
There are more documents that they were fighting from being handed over. mercuryblues Mar 2022 #15
As I see it - NotANeocon Mar 2022 #18
If he participated in the insurrection, he is not invulnerable (or "inviolable"). lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #24
Ginni participated Clarence did not - NotANeocon Mar 2022 #25
Highly unlikely. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #26
I didn't realize that a fetus has its own rights - OK! FakeNoose Mar 2022 #22
Following Texas - NotANeocon Mar 2022 #23

Bettie

(16,179 posts)
5. If his wife was involved in the insurrection
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 03:18 PM
Mar 2022

he should, at very least recuse from cases about the insurrection.

If you can not see a conflict of interest there, well, think about how loudly the other side (and the media) would be howling if the spouse of one of the more liberal justices had tried to overturn the results of an election.

Torchlight

(3,528 posts)
6. I think the difference lies between legal jurisprudence and public sentiment
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 03:18 PM
Mar 2022

I think opinions expressed on a message board lack legal consequence and are often filled with visceral and emotional responses. Courts on the other hand, can express consequences in such a way as to remove freedoms.

Much as I recognize (and agree with) the Duggar's legal rights to bear as many children as they wish, I can also express surprise (and even distaste) at and for them for acting in such a manner. It's not a contradiction if we allow for context and nuance.

NotANeocon

(423 posts)
16. For clarity -
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:07 PM
Mar 2022

A pregnant woman is one person and should not be treated legally as two people.

The Thomas' are two people and should not be treated as one person.

In applying "guilt" it seems there is a difficulty dealing with each person as a single entity.

multigraincracker

(32,841 posts)
9. God took a rib from Adam
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 03:21 PM
Mar 2022

and then cloned it and then transgendered it into Eve. Now he gives us about one out of every 1,500 births as a hermaphrodite to remind us.
Tune in next week for more Bible Stories. God Bless.

NotANeocon

(423 posts)
20. In KJV Genesis it says
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:28 PM
Mar 2022

Man AND woman made he them - so the original was hermaphroditic. Then he separated the man from the woman (possibly found some pronoun trouble in situ).

I suspect the sky fairy regularly produces the same design flaws in hir creatures to this day.

Walleye

(31,262 posts)
10. Do they have a joint checking account? If so they are one in a entity
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 03:26 PM
Mar 2022

Did they file a joint tax return? I think this discussion is a result of overthinking. If a judge is presiding over a trial where his wife is the defendant don’t you think he should recuse himself?Doesn’t a spouse have a legal protection against testifying against the other spouse? What is this based on

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
11. Perhaps I can help alleviate your confusion.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 03:43 PM
Mar 2022

If there was any doubt over whether Clarence was aware of, approved of, and participated in, the crimes his wife committed, he erased that doubt when he ruled that her text messages should be kept secret. There are 6 hard-right extremists on SCROTUS. Five of them ruled against the Thomases. Only Thomas himself ruled to cover his ass (and his wife's).

mercuryblues

(14,581 posts)
12. IMO this is not about what you think it is
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 03:48 PM
Mar 2022

His vote on the SC to hide Meadows texts is where the problem is. He voted to hide his wife's involvement in the insurrection. That is corruption, he needs to go.

He was the lone no vote in that decision.

mercuryblues

(14,581 posts)
15. There are more documents that they were fighting from being handed over.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 04:19 PM
Mar 2022

Thomas voted to hide those ones. Meadows handed over the texts, we are talking about, then stopped cooperating. Thomas voted to hide any further info from being handed over.

The messages are particularly noteworthy in light of Justice Thomas’ lone dissent, earlier this year, against a ruling that gave the Jan. 6 committee access to documents from Trump’s time in office — documents that could very well include his wife’s communications.

Here’s just a sample of the deranged messages Ginni Thomas and Meadows shared, according to the Post.
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/ginni-thomas-mark-meadows-clarence-thomas-rcna21531

NotANeocon

(423 posts)
18. As I see it -
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:16 PM
Mar 2022

CT did not break any clearly defined SC rules so his actions as a justice are inviolable. When there is a code of ethics for the SC he will have to change his actions but at this point he is home free. He was not voting to "hide" anything but to refuse to display evidence like Schrödinger's texts.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
24. If he participated in the insurrection, he is not invulnerable (or "inviolable").
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 03:19 PM
Mar 2022

SCROTUS members are not above the law.

In principle, he can go to jail like anybody else.

Of course, in real life, Republicans don't go to jail for major crimes.

NotANeocon

(423 posts)
25. Ginni participated Clarence did not -
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 04:01 PM
Mar 2022

Therefore he is legally inviolable


MEANING
never to be broken, infringed, or dishonored.
untouchable
unalterable
unchallengeable
unbreakable
impregnable
sacrosanct
sacred
holy
hallowed
intemerate

while Ginni is still jailbait on this issue.

FakeNoose

(33,056 posts)
22. I didn't realize that a fetus has its own rights - OK!
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:48 PM
Mar 2022

So the next time I'm pregnant I get to vote twice. Once for myself and once for my fetus.

That'll work.

NotANeocon

(423 posts)
23. Following Texas -
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 03:16 PM
Mar 2022

many of the state governments are asking to give rights to combined human gametes - but only Rethug combinations will be granted votes because the new laws are not bi-partizan.

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