help! fox news going crazy about benghazi attack ~ 'requested help three times!'

[roscoeroscoe]

at work on friday fox news was on, pounding away all day long about the 'scandal' in which those killed had requested help three times... the talking heads and anchors visibly outraged!
those killed in benghazi were left to die,
obama covering up,
etc.
my right wing co-workers eating it up.

so, i see the story on media matters about this fake outrage:

http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/10/26/lou-dobbs-forgets-to-report-cias-denial-that-it/190974

and wonder if you can point me to any other background to understand this issue. believe me, they are making it look as awful as they can. fake or not?

thanks,

[chloes1]

1. Since it is Faux "news" doing the whinging

I'm inclined to think that it is just so much carp. Of course that could just be me. My parents are eating this up; claiming that Rmoney will win by a landslide.

I am sometimes so ashamed of what they believe.

[Skittles]

2. they care so much about one Fast & Furious death

and five in Libya - but fail to get the vapors over thousands of dead due to a war based on lies

[Hissyspit]

4. Eight years of them not only being silent about the daily lies that killed and maimed 10,000s+ and

orphaned a million, produced thousands of brain injuries in U.S. troops and helped to explode our economy, but actively attacking anyone who questioned or protested it. The president and his co-war criminals DAILY lied, and they ignored the repeated warnings off the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon on OUR SOIL, and we were CONSTANTLY told to shut up about it, and attacked as anti-American.

Their hypocrisy is despicable.

[JI7]

10. and Katrina

i think that was the thing that really got the idiots to see how bad this administration was.

the other issues involved things like foreign policy, military etc and other issues the idiots knew nothing about and didn't care to look up so they just went along with it because "there would be another 9/11" if they didn't.

but i think Katrina was the thing where you couldn't blame some evil other and it was something they could have planned for but they did nothing and where people saw how fucked up that administration was.

[Jawja]

15. Not to mention 9-11,

When warnings were ignored and 3000 people died on American soil

[Hissyspit]

3. "Admin. rejects new claim about Libya attack"

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http://enews.earthlink.net/article/us?guid=20121026/7a01320b-2c50-4703-b73f-9f7525d8df00

Admin. rejects new claim about Libya attack

KIMBERLY DOZIER
From Associated Press
October 26, 2012 11:08 PM EDT

WASHINGTON (AP) — Obama administration officials defended their response to the September attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, amid new claims that the White House failed to send help quickly enough as militants overran the mission. The U.S. ambassador and three other Americans died in the hourslong battle.

Fox News reported that security officers working for the CIA in Benghazi heard the attack on the consulate but were twice told to wait before rushing to the compound. Fox also reported that U.S. officials refused when the security team asked for U.S. warplanes to bomb their attackers, which would have meant violating Libyan airspace.

In response to the report, CIA spokeswoman Jennifer Youngblood said the CIA "reacted quickly to aid our colleagues during that terrible evening in Benghazi."

She added: "Moreover, no one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate."

[Shrike47]

5. You might point out that Condoleeza Rice is not saying the administration erred.

Talk show hosts see no problem with sending troups into a foreign country. Diplomats are a little more cautious.

I wonder how Sean or Rush would feel about Iranian troups landing in New York because of a perceived threat to their ambassador?

[mattclearing]

7. I saw someone post a video on Facebook of Glenn Beck and a "former CIA analyst" on his show.

They were basically speculating and throwing out a bunch of stuff about how Obama was in bed with "the bad guys." They made it sound like the Administration is working with militants to infiltrate/regime change Syria and that Benghazi was related blowback.

Mind you, if that's what the administration is doing, I'm not sure I see the problem. The last regime change before Libya involved over 100,000 dead Iraqis and 4000 dead Americans. Libya and Syria are vast improvements over previous efforts to bring democracy to the Muslim world.

They went on to speculate that Administration officials would have watched on live feed while the people onsite at Benghazi died and did nothing to intervene. Then Beck cut in before the commercial break to say that the President went to bed while it was still going on. No idea whether that's true.

We also know, thanks to bumbling Republicans in the House, that there was a CIA safehouse nearby, so chances are either that it was too late by then, or the safehouse couldn't be compromised, or there were simply not enough personnel to make a credible rescue attempt.

The main thing to remember is that Republicans who never found the WMD and cheered the killing of thousands and thousands of innocents from above are now oh-so-outraged that the outpost they refused to fund the protection of got overrun. Cry me a fucking river.

[leveymg]

14. Regime change and arming Jihadi terrorists to do it is a bad idea whether we do it or Bush does it.

The Benghazi security issue that most people focus on is really a distraction from the larger question of whether it was wise policy for the US Ambassador to coordinate the armed opposition in tribal East Libya knowing that the place is swarming with al-Qaeda like groups, and that the region was the epicenter of Sunni suicide bombers who had been going into Iraq to kill Americans and the Shi'ia population.

Even worse, Stevens and the Administration were well aware of the fact that Gadhaffi had tens of thousands of portable anti-aircraft missiles (MANPADs) that would most likely fall into the hands of these same groups when the regime was overthrown. Of course, they did, and about 15,000 MANPADs are now in circulation and landing in Syria, Gaza and on international black markets.

But, here's the kicker. We did it anyway, with the expectation that they would turn those fighters and weapons against the Syrians in the event that the regime change operation turned into Sunni against Sh'ia religious civil war, which it did. That is exactly what has happened. The problem with that outcome, aside from the tens of thousands of people on both sides who have died in Syria, and the tens of thousands of Libyans who also died killing each other, was these weapons and Holy Warriors armed with SA-7 and SA-24 antiaircraft missiles can not be contained, and are coming to the Friendly Skies near you.

But, the overarching policy issue of regime change at the cost of arming terrorists and plunging the region into religious war -- and the resulting blowback -- hasn't even begun to be discussed, and the consequences haven't yet been fully realized. We need to start having that conversation, openly, now.

I just wish it wasn't in the middle of an election, and that the repugs -- who are utter hypocrites, and have even more blood on their hands -- weren't grabbing ahold of this to try to score political points.

[mattclearing]

18. Yeah, I regretted that immediately.

I don't support regime change policies in general, but I have become pretty jaded about the U.S. habit of persuing them. If you accept that the U.S. is going to do it anyway, then the least messy way possible is best. I'm a pacifist, and didn't mean to sound as cavalier as I did.

I also wasn't aware of the surface-to-air missile situation. Sounds like a total mess that is sure to backfire for years to come.

[leveymg]

19. Thanks for your thoughtful response.

I think the only way the Obama Administration is going to get out of this mess is candor.

The White House needs to tell us what Ambassador Stevens was really doing in Benghazi. If his last meeting with the Turkish Ambassador the evening of the attack was to try to reign in the Libyan fighters and weapons (particularly MANPADs) flowing to Syria, they need to tell us exactly what was said that night and to the local militia leaders who Stevens met with them the afternoon before.

If, however -- as has been surmised by some ex-CIA officers over the past couple of weeks -- the Ambassador was actually facilitating the continued flow of arms and fighters to Syria, the Administration needs to defend that policy. I rather think a large percentage of the American people will rally around him, even if I personally think it's a terrible mistake.

Either way, a lack of candor will sink him, which is exactly what I want to avoid, because Romney will only blindly escalate things into a regional war that will justify turning the US into a Right-wing police state.

[Hissyspit]

8. "CIA Denies Help Was Withheld"

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http://www.freep.com/comments/article/20121027/NEWS07/310270057/CIA-denies-help-was-withheld

CIA denies help was withheld

October 27, 2012

- snip -

In response to the report, CIA spokeswoman Jennifer Youngblood said the CIA "reacted quickly to aid our colleagues during that terrible evening in Benghazi."

She added: "Moreover, no one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate."

[Hissyspit]

9. "Fox Omits Important Day From Benghazi Timeline To Attack Obama"

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http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/10/18/fox-omits-important-day-from-benghazi-timeline/190733

From the comments:

Davidwb88 10/18/2012 05:11 PM in reply to Golf4lillie1

Let me point out to you that we actually didn't know exactly who attacked us until yesterday, 5 weeks after the tragedy, when the specifics were announced by the Libyan Government. Even they weren't sure at the onset. They thought the attack was at the hands of pro Gaddafi forces, seeking revenge for our help in his overthrow.

Also, there WERE demonstrations in Benghazi, over that anti Islamic film, just prior to the attacks. As they receded, the terrorists attacked. Two separate groups, two separate events, joined only by coincidence. Republicans deny there were demonstrations there, in spite of the fact that it was verified as such by the Libyan's, eye witnesses, & it was reported by Reuters & the NY Times, who stand by their reporting to this day.

It took 9 days, NOT "Two weeks", for the Obama Administration to clarify that it was a Terrorist attack. This happened at a Whitehouse briefing on 9-20. This is in spite of the fact that Obama himself referenced them as such the day after 9-11, & over the next several days. 5 days after the attack on 9-16, Ambassador Rice went on the Sunday Talk Shows to claim they "Didn't have the intelligence to prove it was a pre planned attack".

There was much confusion over the tragedy, & Romney chose to make critical assertions beginning hours after the events, in a reckless manner. The fact that it only took 9 days for the Obama Administration to verify it was a terrorist attack, shows a CONSERVATIVE & thoughtful approach as opposed to a knee jerk reaction, favored by the Right Wing. The fact that it was an entire 5 WEEKS before we found out exactly who was responsible bears out just how much confusion there was.

The Romney/Republican approach was reckless, cavalier, & a crass political move designed to hurt the President weeks before an election. Are you aware Republicans inadvertently outed our CIA operations in Benghazi during their dog & pony show disguised as a Congressional hearing? That's treasonous.

[MFM008]

11. now this is just my personal opinion.

Give them time to find out what happened, oh and by the way.

[demgrrrll]

12. They are going nuts about the interview with NBC tonight. Just Nuts.

They think that the President was thrown a huge softball on Benghazi. Hair on fire comments.

[MFM008]

13. people

are to interested in other things- especially a freak storm bearing down on the east. They have tried since this event to make points for RMoney and it just is not working and 10 more days of screaming about it are not going to work.
Oh did I mention

[Warren Stupidity]

16. fox news is a lying sack of shit

[tanyev]

17. Same Fox News that blasted the embassy in Cairo for making an 'apology' statement?

That didn't stick, so now they're on to a new hay-making strategy.

[LaydeeBug]

20. Aaaah, so this is where it's coming from...

thank you for the link. It helps in a FB discussion