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For years, conservatives have claimed that liberals seek to criminalize Christianity and conservative opinions through imaginary hate speech laws. But today, WorldNetDaily columnist Erik Rush writes that the government should prosecute liberals and members of the press
in order to defend freedom, of course. He accuses journalists of treasonous collusion with the Obama administration and said the Founders would have wanted journalists to be found guilty of high crimes. Trials for treason and the requisite sentences would apply, Rush says, and I would have no qualms about seeing such sentences executed, no matter how severe. He claims that progressives seditious, anti-American speech is excepted from protection under the First Amendment, hoping that the political disenfranchisement of liberals, progressives, socialists and Marxists can begin in earnest, and in the open.
Assuming that all goes well and that we are rid of Obama in January, there will be a nation to repair but what about the causes for this necessity? Yes, many Americans are now cognizant of the fact that progressives have progressed America dangerously close to being a Marxist-socialist nation and that we are collectively responsible for not having checked that progress. But aside from grass-roots efforts toward electoral and political reform, there are other widespread, organized threats to Americas ongoing concern as a representative republic with guaranteed personal liberties, free speech foremost among them.
It is improbable that the framers of the Constitution anticipated a situation in which the press were entirely given over to seditious, anti-American policies. If they had, it is likely that their modus operandi would be similar to that for any faction found guilty of high crimes. Trials for treason and the requisite sentences would apply, and I would have no qualms about seeing such sentences executed, no matter how severe.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/wnd-columnist-prosecute-liberals-journalists-treason
Johonny
(20,852 posts)that were filmed as if they were actual news. They also hired fake reporters to ask canned questions in the White House press corps. Right? They were mad as hell about that... No. I mean they violated the concept of the free press. Another article where a conservative projects GOP policy on the other party. Why does he think Obama does it, because he knows Bush did it.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)I will shove you up your own ass so far that you, quite simply, disappear.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)librechik
(30,674 posts)naturally, they are projecting that desire onto us barefoot hippie flower children who want to set everyone free.
We are such fascists for forcing our peace-loving, charitable, free-spirited ways on them! You know, the guys with guns and jackboots and livid expressions over there. Let me take my bunch of daisies, point it at them, and demand that they give up their guns to me!
TOO TWISTED
They want it both ways, the effin cheaters.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)It is time to try Fox for treason ......... the time is past due
defacto7
(13,485 posts)with Republicans and psychological displacement?
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... what freakin' planet does the clown live on?
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)John Adams, is that you?
BarackTheVote
(938 posts)this shit's getting scary
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)melody
(12,365 posts)That was an act John Adams had to be talked into. He later regretted it. Of course, no one ever mentions Thomas Jefferson's hand in creating the proper climate he knew would make Adams act that way.
Anyway, John Adams would have hated these people and everything they stand for.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)As for Jefferson - really? You are going to blame Jefferson for the Federalists passing legislation which today would likely be declared unconstitutional within months of passage? No credible evidence has ever emerged that Jefferson or Madison were part of any effort to undermine the Constitution or promote treason, which is basically what you suggest. Jefferson and Madison can be faulted for overreacting to the Alien and Sedition acts by supporting the Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions, which laid the groundwork for the whole nullification/states rights heresy that ended with the Civil War. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_and_Kentucky_Resolutions
melody
(12,365 posts)Given all the facts, I'd opt for Adams as the good guy. It was four acts with very complicated reasons, some of them related to Adams' frame of mind.
You don't know what I'm suggesting because the explanation is long and complicated. I'm an Adams historian. The best case I can make to you is that David McCullough started out writing a book about Thomas Jefferson. Once he did the research, he changed his subject to the more honorable person -- John Adams.
If you wish to believe Jefferson was the Hero and Adams was the goat, please do so. It remains simplistic and incorrect.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Looks to me as if you are in the good guy/bad guy mode. My point was Adams is responsible for what he signed - no one else. And I faulted Jefferson and Madison for the overreaction of the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions and pointed out the long term negative impact in terms of nullification and state's rights - which was of course more damaging to the country than what Adams and the Federalists did. Tell me again how that makes Jefferson out to be a hero? I have read McCullough's book on Adams and I don't question his honor. But he did use bad judgment in this instance and it had negative consequences. A good historian/biographer doesn't gloss over the flaws of the subject. Both Adams and Jefferson were patriots and both had their faults.
"You don't know what I'm suggesting because the explanation is long and complicated." Condescend much? Please. If you have an argument, make it. Don't fall back on "long and complicated reasons" which is not an argument, but an exercise in intellectual laziness.
melody
(12,365 posts)Believe what you wish to believe.
meow2u3
(24,764 posts)...and they want to prosecute US for treason?
Who's calling whom the traitors?