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Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:01 PM Oct 2012

"House will stay Republican" (John Harwood) and Sam Stein nods in agreement

and both launch into a contest to see who could say that the President would have to reassess his governing strategy in a second term because the Senate would also have the same leader as it has for the past 4 years. This was just on Alex Wagner's show. Why the hell are we even trying? Messrs. Harwood and Stein see us sliding into Deja Vu Land where Boehner and McConnell crap all over the nation for yet another round. I kind of expected this from Harwood but Sam Stein just nodding in agreement pissed me off.

Am I just overreacting or is this now the conventional wisdom beyond the gaseous bubble of the Beltway?

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joycejnr

(326 posts)
1. Could be. My main problem with the Obama campaign has been the lack of criticism of the GOP...
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:05 PM
Oct 2012

...Roosevelt and JFK used biting criticism of the Repugs to help insure majorities in Congress and the State legislatures. It wasn't 100% effective, but the ratios might have been worse without it.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
2. Except it is not the conventional thinking
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:07 PM
Oct 2012

the Dems think they have a very good shot, and that started back in February. The math is actually with the dems on this.

But as they say, if the Dems retake it, it will be by much narrower margins than they told the press even back then.

If the Rs keep it, it will be by a very narrow margin as well. We are taking 5 seats here, my personal read.

but there are way too many seats that are actually in play that should not. Bachmann's seat is in play, Cantor is all but safe. Walsh, my back yard, Bilbray is behind Peters in the most recent poll, by five points, (outside MOE) but the other two polls have them within the MOE. It is things like this.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
3. I suspect rethugs will retain the house, however
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:08 PM
Oct 2012

we are close to having a Senate that is filibuster proof. If we can get rid of the tea party thugs in the Senate, things will change a lot.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
5. 2014 --we have to make sure Obama doesn't get Clintonized
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:27 PM
Oct 2012

into a 4 yr lame duck session. GOTV now, and GOTV in 2014!

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
6. No way in hell we are anywhere near a filibuster proof Senate
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:58 PM
Oct 2012

That's 60 damned seats!

AT BEST, we will have 54.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
7. Yes, the republicans retaining control over the House is conventional wisdom outside the beltway
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:06 PM
Oct 2012

I've yet to see any credible evidence that we can take back the House. Wish I could say otherwise.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
8. A stunning upset shift is always possible in the House races, but it is not likely.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:18 PM
Oct 2012

There are just too many people out here that the Democrats have failed to give reason to trust them. "Trillions for Wall Street, bills for Main Street" was devastating and we're going to feel the consequences of that mistake for a long time.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
9. The House is almost certainly going to stay Republican
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:22 PM
Oct 2012

They have a 25-seat advantage.

BUT.

It is entirely possible that several of the worst Teabagging brainfarts who came in after 2010 will be shown the door.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
12. From what I've been reading it's going to be awfully darn close after the election is done
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:32 PM
Oct 2012

But Dems will come up short.

But if we can get rid of some of these awful Teabaggers that's a good step forward. I don't think ANY of those freshmen representatives did anything of note in the 2 years they've served other than to collect their taxpayer-paid salaries and benefits.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
10. Unfortunately they are both very very wrong.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:27 PM
Oct 2012

It will be a Democratic +45 takeover.

Teabaggers are being purged out of the House after 2 years of nothing but bullshit.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
11. I disagree.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:29 PM
Oct 2012

Has Congress ever been less popular? Less effective?

We need economic growth and they voted how many times to repeal Obamacare?

I know we are likely to flip one of the largest districts in the country here in MI (CD 1) and we're working hard to do so.

I think many are disenchanted with the teabaggers and will vote many of them out this year.

Obama's got coat-tails and many candidates are benefiting from that.

Julie--outside of the bubble in a place called "reality"

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