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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:13 PM Oct 2012

Keith Olbermann Casts A Wide Net In Job Search

Source: Forbes

Think Keith Olbermann has burned his last bridge in the television business? He doesn’t think so.

Seven months after he got dismissed by Current TV, the temperamental host is aggressively job-shopping, and he’s not being too picky about it.

In recent weeks, Olbermann has reached out to executives at a slew of different networks to communicate his desire for a new on-air role, according to people with knowledge of those conversations. Those include both cable outlets and at least one broadcast network.

He has expressed interest in taking over as anchor of existing shows and in starting a new show. Indeed, several of the networks he’s approached don’t have any news programming per se on their schedules. His frustration at not having a real platform during the height of election season has been evident.

Read more: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2012/10/25/keith-olbermann-casts-a-wide-net-in-job-search/

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Keith Olbermann Casts A Wide Net In Job Search (Original Post) Newsjock Oct 2012 OP
Forbes? Ganja Ninja Oct 2012 #1
His new contract may have a lithium clause... n/t backscatter712 Oct 2012 #2
Why does't he set up his own internet network, Big Blue Marble Oct 2012 #3
True Hutzpa Oct 2012 #7
My guess is contractual reasons. backscatter712 Oct 2012 #10
Thought Keith has a share or was a partner at CurrentTV Hutzpa Oct 2012 #27
Much of that went down the toilet when Keith got himself fired... backscatter712 Oct 2012 #51
Keith should have stuck it out with Current Larkspur Oct 2012 #4
Didn't he lose both of his parents within months of each other? Kookaburra Oct 2012 #8
The losses were relatively close together PatSeg Oct 2012 #14
Define doing well at MSNBC please. win_in_06 Oct 2012 #18
Tell CNN the ratings for MSNBC are "poor". JohnnyRingo Oct 2012 #20
Please look at this..Cable News Rating for 10/24/2012. What are you selling? Fla Dem Oct 2012 #56
I wonder whether he feels he needs to be in front of the camera renate Oct 2012 #5
I wouldn't hire him leftynyc Oct 2012 #6
I think that's harsh. Texin Oct 2012 #16
I agree that Keith helped MSNBC leftynyc Oct 2012 #24
I think he has some issues he needs to work out. A lot of highly creative/intelligent people have. Michigan Alum Oct 2012 #37
That is a little short sighted Savannahmann Oct 2012 #31
You are absolutely correct Samantha Oct 2012 #34
Keith should have kept leftynyc Oct 2012 #41
He was not the first person to start leaking Samantha Oct 2012 #50
He's a diva leftynyc Oct 2012 #54
Well, we are just going to have to disagree over this Samantha Oct 2012 #55
I think Gore and Hyatt screwed up by blowing up NWI LTR Oct 2012 #48
Never liked him. That whole "outrage set to 11" thing Care Acutely Oct 2012 #28
I remember a lot of comedy, and some heavy-duty editorials on topics no one covered. Kurovski Oct 2012 #30
My problems with him go leftynyc Oct 2012 #33
As a woman, he did piss me off with his treatment of Hillary but a lot of others did the same. Michigan Alum Oct 2012 #38
Others were hard (I'm thinking specifically Rachel) leftynyc Oct 2012 #40
I hated him for the way he treated her. (eom) StevieM Oct 2012 #46
Good luck keigth nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #9
I absolutely will watch. Casandia Oct 2012 #12
Why? Are you a Current shareholder? Ed Suspicious Oct 2012 #15
I was going to respond to your question, but Casandia Oct 2012 #26
Do I need to be a shareholder to make the decision NOT to watch? nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #43
I'm sure he'll be crushed if you don't. smokey nj Oct 2012 #42
Does Honey Boo Boo need a cranky old grand-uncle character? BlueStreak Oct 2012 #11
Think he'd consider radio? cynatnite Oct 2012 #13
good luck with that, you have already burned all your bridges krawhitham Oct 2012 #17
Wherever he goes, I'll watch. Greybnk48 Oct 2012 #19
Yup. Me too. truebrit71 Oct 2012 #36
Me three. Michigan Alum Oct 2012 #39
Me four. Hubert Flottz Oct 2012 #49
Keith is very talented. I'm sorry that he burned bridges, mzmolly Oct 2012 #21
he was better than anyone currently on tv dembotoz Oct 2012 #22
Good luck KO! TeamPooka Oct 2012 #23
He should look into Cartoon Network...n/t greytdemocrat Oct 2012 #25
Oh please, no! HappyMe Oct 2012 #29
Yeah, what kind of segway would that be? Savannahmann Oct 2012 #32
There's one night when they HappyMe Oct 2012 #35
wherever he goes, I will watch if I can. I miss his voice, his perspective. and I find it niyad Oct 2012 #44
I like him, but he obviously doesn't play well with others LTR Oct 2012 #45
I don't think anyone is going to want to hire him, he's just too Raine Oct 2012 #47
if he wasn't such an ass, he might be able to find work. Vattel Oct 2012 #52
When he used to be on Imus in the morning deaniac21 Oct 2012 #53

Big Blue Marble

(5,093 posts)
3. Why does't he set up his own internet network,
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:25 PM
Oct 2012

like The Young Turks or The TWIT tech network? It would be an
immediate hit.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
10. My guess is contractual reasons.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:32 PM
Oct 2012

He's probably still under a non-compete agreement.

Any network who wants to hire Keith would probably have to pay Current seven or eight figures for the privilege of a waiver, and Keith probably can't cough up the cash to do that for a start-up.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
27. Thought Keith has a share or was a partner at CurrentTV
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:57 PM
Oct 2012

I think that's the deal we were told he signed, unless I'm mistaken.

Shouldn't that mean something?

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
51. Much of that went down the toilet when Keith got himself fired...
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:12 PM
Oct 2012

He may still be required to comply with a non-compete for a while though.

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
4. Keith should have stuck it out with Current
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:27 PM
Oct 2012

He had to know that Current was an upstart network trying to become a bona fide one, and it can take years for a network to reach its potential.

Meanwhile, MSNBC, his former employer, is doing well with Rachel, Ed and Lawrence along with Martin Bashir. And on the weekends, Chris Hayes and Melissa Harris-Perry are great.

I think that Keith still hasn't gotten over losing his dad. Yeah, I know it was a few years ago, but losing a parent you were close to is very hard.

Kookaburra

(2,649 posts)
8. Didn't he lose both of his parents within months of each other?
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:31 PM
Oct 2012

I know that would have made me a basket case.

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
20. Tell CNN the ratings for MSNBC are "poor".
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:58 PM
Oct 2012

The Atlanta based network would kill for the recent market share enjoyed by prime time MSNBC shows. That MSNBC has approached Fox's ratings alone in the last year is completely unprecedented.

Rachel Maddow's show in particular has been beating Sean Hannity on a somewhat regular basis. She usually sits right behind him in ratings, but about once a week her show overtakes him.

Here's a great site for keeping track of news ratings on a daily basis:

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/category/ratings

Fla Dem

(23,692 posts)
56. Please look at this..Cable News Rating for 10/24/2012. What are you selling?
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:38 AM
Oct 2012



http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/10/25/cable-news-ratings-for-wednesday-october-24-2012/154650/

MSNBC programs do very well, except vs Fox's overall rating. However, MSNBC's primetime shows track very competitively in the desired 25-54 demo. FOX's big audience is the aging baby boomers (of which I am one) (baby boomer, not Fox viewer). Also to take into consideration, FOX is on the basic cable tier on most cable systems, while MSNBC is on premium tiers, so less viewers have access to MSNBC.

renate

(13,776 posts)
5. I wonder whether he feels he needs to be in front of the camera
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:28 PM
Oct 2012

He was, after all, instrumental in MSNBC's shift to the left. Remember how it was when he was the only person anywhere (other than on Air America) who was doing anything other than reporting the truth, straight-facedly balancing it with a lie from the other side, and considering that "balanced" news?

He certainly seems to be a diva but maybe a quieter role as a news director might work for him.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
6. I wouldn't hire him
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:29 PM
Oct 2012

He may share my politics but he has shown himself to be difficult to work with. His outsized ego is what contributed to his downfall. He made the mistake of believing his own hype.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
16. I think that's harsh.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:40 PM
Oct 2012

His major beef with Current was their slipshod production values. I completely quit watching after Olbermann left. Bless Jennifer Granholm and Cenk, but their shows just look and sound dreadful. Sometimes it's not possible to actually hear the message when the soundclips are not synched up, the sets are falling down and around the hosts' heads and there's no film at eleven. These shows look like they're produced in the back of somebody's garage and that won't cut it. Olbermann knows that and shame on Gore for not facing that fact.

And MSNBC primetime wouldn't be the outlet it is today without Olbermann's influence. Period.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
24. I agree that Keith helped MSNBC
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:17 PM
Oct 2012

become what it is but then he shit all over them and walked away - same as he did with Current. That's what I mean about his ego. He doesn't realize there are many who can do the job just as well as he does - I don't miss him in the slightest.

Michigan Alum

(335 posts)
37. I think he has some issues he needs to work out. A lot of highly creative/intelligent people have.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:21 PM
Oct 2012

Bipolar II, substance abuse, Narcissistic Personality Disorder. A lot of people in the creative fields have these. I'm not putting him down - I have a disorder myself but take medication for it otherwise I would be Keith Olbermann on steroids. Pissed a lot of people off in my day.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
31. That is a little short sighted
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:32 PM
Oct 2012

It took time for MSNBC to get the backing, and most importantly the money to make the production values we all enjoy today. Even though they had the leg up of backing from NBC and Microsoft. It takes time for the people to get used to the equipment, each brand is a little different. It takes time for the directors to get things set up the way they want. It takes time for the Producers to learn the personalities. So a start up, which was properly called an upstart, doesn't have the leg up of the financial backing with deep pockets. If it can't compete with flash, it has to win with content, which was the original premise behind Current. Content over flash, and Keith knew that. The other thing about a start up, you have to put in long hours, and do more for yourself, and the company that you presumably want to succeed. Keith balked, unwilling to go that extra yard, and demanded production quality he was accustomed to at MSNBC.

In another five years, it might be possible, but not now. Even then it's probably not going to happen, because Current isn't ever going to enjoy the financial backing of big corporations. Content had to be the wind that moved the debate. Keith had a great opportunity, both to show how big a draw he really is, and also to demonstrate his real depth in content.

That's why he'll never start his own Internet site, and do it as a flashy Video Blog. No way can home computers do the flash the way that major machines can. It will look cheap and cheesy compared to CNN or MSNBC. Also Keith will never get sponsors the way that Al Gore and Current did. So money will never come in the way that Keith wants it to. So production values will never increase.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
34. You are absolutely correct
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:42 PM
Oct 2012

Rachel Maddow owes her career to Keith Olbermann. I remember when she had a guest appearance once on Olbermann's show. She talked about her old car, how difficult things were, and she was dresssed extremely casually. But when she opened her mouth to discuss politics, she was incredibly impressive. I liked her right away. Keith asked her back, and others sitting around her did not interact. I think they felt threatened by her intelligence. But Keith kept on bringing her back, and had no problem interacting with her on the same intelligence plane. He is the reason she sits where she does today, and I am sure she would be one of the first people to say this.

As far as his experience with Current, that network actually pitched to him to come join them. This went on for months. And knowing that Comcast was going to eventually merge with NBC, he felt like his freedom to simply be who he is as a commentator would be compromised. Looking at what is happening today at MSNBC, I don't think anyone can question that Keith was correct. That network is being compromised as I type this post.

Current knew exactly the perfectionist he was and is, and for that network to allow unbelievably crass things like the electricity to be cut off in the middle of a broadcast (for non-payment of the bill) would be unacceptable to anyone with at least a modest amount of pride in their work. But the way Current severed Olbermann from the network, not even giving any notice to his vast amount of fans or those who had become "friends" of the show (and I miss seeing them as well!) is typically the way labor lawyers sever employees. (Olbermann was not an employee.) You are fired and you are leaving now. How belittling. How demeaning. And that was done purposefully by Joel Hyatt.

Speaking only for myself, I will never forgive them. It was a cold and calculating a move that hurt many, many people, including Olbermann's staff, unnecessarily. Current could have chosen to negotiate a mutual agreement for separation with dignity so that all parties reputation could have been protected. But no -- they wanted to slap him publicly and with a vengeance. And in that process, during this critical election season, no Keith Olbermann. Unforgivable.

Sam

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
41. Keith should have kept
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:02 PM
Oct 2012

his criticism about Current between the two of them. He made it publicly known he was unhappy and bitched about it constantly. I can't blame them for throwing him overboard. He thought they would never do that to him - he was too important - his diva routine cost him. Now most people have forgotten him and it's his own fault.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
50. He was not the first person to start leaking
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:17 PM
Oct 2012

If you had followed the whole debacle, you would know that.

I doubt seriously most people have forgotten him. He's built up too much of a legacy in his commentary to ever be forgotten.

He is not a diva; he is a perfectionist.

Sam

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
54. He's a diva
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:56 AM
Oct 2012

Rachel is a perfectionist. You would never hear her trash her employer. And I don't hear anyone clammoring for Keith's pearls of wisdom. Current isn't the first network he worked for and had problems with and I would be shocked that any network would want to take on someone who has already caused so much trouble for whomever he worked with.

LTR

(13,227 posts)
48. I think Gore and Hyatt screwed up by blowing up NWI
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:16 PM
Oct 2012

News World International was Cutrent's predecessor, and it was a pretty good network. Most of the content came from the CBC, I believe. They should have used NWI to build a serious news operation, instead it became a cable version of YouTube that nobody watched.

Care Acutely

(1,370 posts)
28. Never liked him. That whole "outrage set to 11" thing
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:16 PM
Oct 2012

continually, every day, all the time about everything - anger! anger! anger! incessantly . . . that's what's wrong with the worst republicans I know. That's Neil Boorz or whatever that guy's name is. Don't care for it. Don't care for it when it's "ours" either. (ours in quotations because I never have claimed KO, and most certainly would not now)

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
30. I remember a lot of comedy, and some heavy-duty editorials on topics no one covered.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:25 PM
Oct 2012

but I actually watched the show for years.

But then, they do say comedy flies on the wings of anger, god damnit.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
33. My problems with him go
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:33 PM
Oct 2012

back to the 2008 election and his special comment on Hillary Clinton. It was vicious and it was a bunch of lies. He never apologized. And for that, he can sit home and stew in his own ego for all I care.

Michigan Alum

(335 posts)
38. As a woman, he did piss me off with his treatment of Hillary but a lot of others did the same.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:27 PM
Oct 2012

I have long forgiven him and had actually forgotten about it because he's done so many other good things.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
40. Others were hard (I'm thinking specifically Rachel)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:57 PM
Oct 2012

but she said she was wrong when it was apparent she was. Keith thinks he's above it all and, again, it's his ego that is his downfall with me. I hope every network tells him to go fuck himself. There are so many others that deserve a shot before putting his big head back on tv (for instance, Ezra Klein). Keith lost me and will never get me back.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
43. Do I need to be a shareholder to make the decision NOT to watch?
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:29 PM
Oct 2012

really?

I will simply not go out of my way to find him. That is as simple as that.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
19. Wherever he goes, I'll watch.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:56 PM
Oct 2012

He was a fighter and defender of liberal values and the Democratic Party during the darkest time in the past 10 years. He was the FIRST to broach the subject of election fraud during the 2004 bullshit in Ohio and FL. I will be forever grateful for his courage, and appreciative.

mzmolly

(50,996 posts)
21. Keith is very talented. I'm sorry that he burned bridges,
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:59 PM
Oct 2012

as I miss his voice. I hope that he will learn from his past experiences, wherever the wind takes him.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
32. Yeah, what kind of segway would that be?
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:33 PM
Oct 2012

From Robot Chicken to KO and then a Family Guy rerun? Argh.

niyad

(113,353 posts)
44. wherever he goes, I will watch if I can. I miss his voice, his perspective. and I find it
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 06:23 PM
Oct 2012

fascinating the number of people complaining about his ego, as though they speak from personal experience.

LTR

(13,227 posts)
45. I like him, but he obviously doesn't play well with others
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 06:30 PM
Oct 2012

I'm thinking if you piss off Current, you've pretty much pushed yourself out of the business.

Is QVC hiring?

Raine

(30,540 posts)
47. I don't think anyone is going to want to hire him, he's just too
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:00 PM
Oct 2012

volatile. Sad because I really miss him but I know I wouldn't want to work with him.

deaniac21

(6,747 posts)
53. When he used to be on Imus in the morning
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:55 PM
Oct 2012

they were always talking about how big his butt was. So you my be onto something.

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