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warrior1

(12,325 posts)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:02 PM Oct 2012

Officer Charged With Plotting to Kidnap Women and Cook Them

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/26/nyregion/gilberto-valle-accused-in-plot-to-kidnap-women-and-cook-them.html?_r=0

A New York police officer was arrested Wednesday in Queens by the Federal Bureau of Investigation on suspicion of a federal kidnapping conspiracy in which he discussed cooking and eating female body parts, according to a criminal complaint.


The evidence against the officer, a six-year veteran of the New York Police Department, consists of e-mails and instant messages in which he was “discussing plans to kidnap, rape, torture, kill, cook and eat body parts of a number of women,” according to the complaint against the officer, Gilberto Valle.

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In one message to a co-conspirator, Officer Valle wrote that he was contemplating cooking a person “over a low heat, keep her alive as long as possible,” according to the complaint.

“The allegations in the complaint really need no description from us,” Mary E. Galligan, the F.B.I. acting assistant director, said in a statement. “They speak for themselves. It would be an understatement merely to say Valle’s own words and actions were shocking.”
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Officer Charged With Plotting to Kidnap Women and Cook Them (Original Post) warrior1 Oct 2012 OP
But c'mon... this is only representative of maybe 10-20% of police cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #1
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #8
who cares if he is employed? He needs to be off the streets! robinlynne Oct 2012 #26
ha warrior1 Oct 2012 #2
Did he have fava beans and a nice Chianti? n/t backscatter712 Oct 2012 #3
Ewww Aerows Oct 2012 #4
He probably thought it was god's will... n/t SomethingFishy Oct 2012 #5
+ struggle4progress Oct 2012 #14
Of note is the extreme misogyny here. Yeah, it's shocking and sick to eat human flesh. LiberalLoner Oct 2012 #6
One disturbing realization I've had Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #33
And this is the one they caught. Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #41
I don't answer my door anymore unless it LiberalLoner Oct 2012 #42
Twitter responds warrior1 Oct 2012 #7
NY finest! Logical Oct 2012 #9
Gnaw and order warrior1 Oct 2012 #10
Nice genxlib Oct 2012 #30
Awesome! WinkyDink Oct 2012 #32
Looks like even the NYPD has limits to its tolerance of violent mayhem. backscatter712 Oct 2012 #11
This story makes my blood broil pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #12
Dang you! Iggo Oct 2012 #37
more warrior1 Oct 2012 #13
"anything that should have alerted the department to his alleged proclivities" cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #19
Well done genxlib Oct 2012 #29
Stop and Bisque warrior1 Oct 2012 #15
ow! flamingdem Oct 2012 #38
Will they let him out of the cooler Turbineguy Oct 2012 #16
Boy, they sure do a great job at weeding the psychos hifiguy Oct 2012 #17
He probably had binders full of women too n/t nichomachus Oct 2012 #18
no doubt BainsBane Oct 2012 #21
What does it say about me BainsBane Oct 2012 #20
WTF jsr Oct 2012 #22
More zombies???? Initech Oct 2012 #23
Oh but I'm sure "God" meant for it to be. ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #24
WTF is with the picture the Daily News is running with this story. Holy fuck! tk2kewl Oct 2012 #25
I know. Truly bizarre. jsr Oct 2012 #28
most of the Daily News readers probably don't even know who the monument is for tk2kewl Oct 2012 #31
He likes his coffee like he likes his women... backscatter712 Oct 2012 #27
Yes, Cook Them genxlib Oct 2012 #34
What does it mean to rec this thread? cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #35
It means you get to join in on the black humor! backscatter712 Oct 2012 #36
Does he even know how to cook? aquart Oct 2012 #39
oh my warrior1 Oct 2012 #40
they need to arrest the other parties in that conversation, too... Blue_Tires Oct 2012 #43
what if he hadn't been caught.... renate Oct 2012 #44
The scariest part of this story is that this cannibal is a cop! n/t backscatter712 Oct 2012 #45
"Cannibal" Cop Turned In By Horrified Wife Who Found "Weird Stuff" On Computer warrior1 Oct 2012 #46
Tell me again? Savannahmann Oct 2012 #47
Another reason why the right of self defense should not be abridged in deference to police TheKentuckian Oct 2012 #48

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
1. But c'mon... this is only representative of maybe 10-20% of police
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:05 PM
Oct 2012

Nobody talks about the 80-90% of police who seldom cook and eat anyone.

Sometimes the anti-police bigotry here gets me down.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
8. LOL ...
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:13 PM
Oct 2012

But, unless the "good protect and serving" officer named a specific target, any first year admitted attorney will get him off ... {hee ... hee ... hee ... I said "get him off"} ... by arguing that the officer was just engaging in and communicating a fantasy.

But that said, that officer is now, or soon will be, unemployed ... and probably, unemployable in the state of New York.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
4. Ewww
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:08 PM
Oct 2012

This is nearly as bad as the people who made and sold the human meat pies in South America. Ewww, ewww.

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
6. Of note is the extreme misogyny here. Yeah, it's shocking and sick to eat human flesh.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:11 PM
Oct 2012

It goes to a whole 'nother level when they talk about keeping her alive as long as possible and prolonging the torture as long as possible. That level of hatred for women - because he doesn't want to do this to men, only women - shocks and frightens me.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
33. One disturbing realization I've had
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:40 PM
Oct 2012

from all this rape talk this election season ... I had known there was widespread, deep-seated hatred of women in this country, but the extent of it has shaken me up. It seems like a significant percentage of men, not just a fringe element, loathe women and are obsessed with controlling them, otherwise Romney and these Senate candidates would be lagging by many, many points or would have been forced out of their races. It seems like there's almost nothing a Republican male can say that would be too anti-woman for a big chunk of the population of this country.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
41. And this is the one they caught.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:59 PM
Oct 2012

How many thousands are out there that haven't been? I never used to be paranoid but between the extreme hatred of women and the random shootings of innocents I just don't even like going out anymore.

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
42. I don't answer my door anymore unless it
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:04 PM
Oct 2012

Is someone I know or am expecting. Just don't feel safe in so many ways.

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
7. Twitter responds
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:12 PM
Oct 2012

Chris Hayes started this:

https://twitter.com/chrislhayes


30s Christopher Hayes Christopher Hayes ?@chrislhayes

Neck and neck tie between "Protect and SERVE" and "NYPD Chew"
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1m Sal Gentile Sal Gentile ?@salgentile

@chrislhayes @BuzzFeedBen meme crossover: "COOKBOOKS FULL OF WOMEN."
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2m Matthew Tracy Matthew Tracy ?@MXTracy66

@chrislhayes @BuzzFeedBen NYPD Chew
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3m Arthur Delaney Arthur Delaney ?@ArthurDelaneyHP

@chrislhayes protect and SERVE!
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4m Christopher Hayes Christopher Hayes ?@chrislhayes

Alright, taking nominations for tomorrow's NY Post headline. CANNIBAL COP probably too obvious. Others? (cc @BuzzFeedBen)
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11m Christopher Hayes Christopher Hayes ?@chrislhayes

Total work stoppage in @upwithchris offices as we all obsess over this story: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/26/nyregion/gilberto-valle-accused-in-plot-to-kidnap-women-and-cook-them.html?partner=socialflow&smid=tw-nytmetro&_r=0

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
11. Looks like even the NYPD has limits to its tolerance of violent mayhem.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:15 PM
Oct 2012

Now we know where they set the line - at cannibalism.

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
13. more
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:17 PM
Oct 2012
http://gawker.com/5954890/nypd-officer-arrested-by-fbi-for-plotting-to-kidnap-cook-and-eat-women

UPDATE: More from ABC 7: The officer's name is Gilberto Valle III, and he was charged in connection with a plot to kidnap and cook as many as 100 women, including his girlfriend. The complaint stems from a series of online conversations Valle allegedly had with an accomplice, in which he remarks how "tasty" his girlfriend looks.

Meanwhile, Police Commissioner Ray Kelly released the following statement:

This is a bizarre case. We suspended the officer immediately upon his arrest, and a review is now underway to determine whether there was anything in his background that should have alerted the department to his alleged proclivities. I want to commend the NYPD Internal Affairs Bureau detectives and FBI agents who worked jointly on this investigation.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
19. "anything that should have alerted the department to his alleged proclivities"
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:21 PM
Oct 2012

Good lord... sounds like a setup to the next Jeff Foxworthy special.

"If your pepper spray is an imported three-pepper blend..."

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
17. Boy, they sure do a great job at weeding the psychos
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:20 PM
Oct 2012

out of the pool of scumbags who want to be cops, don't they? Just another "isolated bad apple" I am sure, though weirder than most.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
20. What does it say about me
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:22 PM
Oct 2012

that I wasn't shocked until I read the part about his wanting to cook her "over a low heat [to] keep her alive as long as possible"?

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
24. Oh but I'm sure "God" meant for it to be.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:25 PM
Oct 2012

Right?

(honestly it's what I expect to hear next from the Grand Old Psychopath party)

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
31. most of the Daily News readers probably don't even know who the monument is for
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:39 PM
Oct 2012

but for crissake

aquart

(69,014 posts)
39. Does he even know how to cook?
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:09 PM
Oct 2012

Does he have recipes he was working on?

Kinda silly to go to all that trouble and then screw up with your oven setting.

renate

(13,776 posts)
44. what if he hadn't been caught....
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:47 PM
Oct 2012

I know law enforcement isn't always popular, and often with good reason, but thank goodness there are people looking for sickos like these.

Those cold, detached (yet you can almost hear the malice) words are terrifying.

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
46. "Cannibal" Cop Turned In By Horrified Wife Who Found "Weird Stuff" On Computer
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:23 PM
Oct 2012
http://gothamist.com/2012/10/26/cannibal_cop_was_turned_in_by_horri.php



The NYPD officer who was arrested Thursday for allegedly attempting to "kidnap women and cook them" was denied bail during his hearing in Manhattan Criminal Court yesterday. Gilberto Valle, a 28-year-old married six-year veteran of the NYPD, has been charged with conspiracy to kidnap and accessing a computer without authorization, for which he faces up to life in prison. It's now been revealed how Valle was caught: his estranged wife, Kathleen Cooke Mangan, discovered his “tactical plan,” which he called his blueprint for “Abducting and Cooking,” on his computer last month: "When she saw what was on the computer, what he was into, she literally ran out of the house with just the clothes on her back," a law-enforcement source told the Post.

Mangam contacted the FBI about the “weird stuff” she found on his computer (including the names, photos, dates of birth, heights, weights and bra sizes of dozens of women), then immediately left the state with the couple’s year-old baby daughter. “I was thinking of tying her body onto some kind of apparatus,” he allegedly wrote to a co-conspirator in one of many email and IM conversations. “Cook her over a low heat, keep her alive as long as possible.”

Public defender Julia Gatto initially argued for bail, saying the Valle was only guilty of a "deviant fantasy." "There's no actual crossing the line from fantasy to reality," Gatto said. "At worst this is someone who has sexual fantasies about people he knows and he talks about it on the Internet." But Assistant U.S. Attorney Hadassa Waxman pointed out that he was too close to carrying out the "grotesque and disturbing" plots: "[He had] plans to kidnap, rape, torture, kill and eat the body parts of young women, some of whom the FBI has identified and they acknowledge knowing the defendant for a period of time," she said.

Valle, who attended Archbishop Molloy High School in Queens and then studied psychology, criminology and criminal justice at the University of Maryland, joined the police force in 2006. His younger brother denied the charges and defended him to reporters: “He’s a nice guy,” he said. “I’m upset.” Neighbors were in shock still as well: “That’s absolutely horrifying,” said David Rosenblatt. “I never heard of anyone doing that, let alone in this building. This is supposed to be one of the nicer areas of Queens.”

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TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
48. Another reason why the right of self defense should not be abridged in deference to police
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 03:02 PM
Oct 2012

They are at least as likely to snap as the common citizen and probably more.

No one should be bound by the law to be a defenseless target for predators, the disturbed, or even just fucked up assholes.

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