Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
6 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
 

RC

(25,592 posts)
1. We are killing our planet with our shear numbers.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:42 AM
Oct 2012

We don't care where our energy comes from. As long as it is not within sight of us, our homes. Nature is polluted/destroyed as a unavoidable consequence of procuring energy, in any case.
Nothing for our children? Who cares, we got ours.

Rape of the land? Oh, hell No! Murder of the land is more like it! No matter what we do, that land cannot really be restored. Species driven to extinction can not be restored.
We even have people that want to tap into Old Faithful for geothermal energy. Come on now, is nothing sacred? Besides we humans, that is?
We remove mountain tops and fill in the valleys with the unwanted toxic rubble.
We cover over pristine land with solar panels. Why not, nobody lives there anyway, except a few mice and cacti?
We devastate thousand year old forests to build wind farms, with a maximum life of 15 to 20 years.
We build huge dams, flooding hundred of thousands of acres. Stopping the migration of fish and stressing the chain of life that depend on those fish migrations.
We strip mine hundreds of thousands of acres of previously pristine land, to get at a toxic sludge that has to be heated and diluted, just to get it out of the rock that was dug out of the ground.
There is no such thing as a "Clean Energy Source". One way or another, they all have their costs on nature. Our arrogance, multiplied by our ever increasing numbers, are killing most other life on the only home we can ever know. We have become just another weed species, along with rats, crabgrass and dandelions.
The root cause of the energy problem is that our numbers have increased well passed the numbers our planet can safely support and we are getting desperate in our attempts at denying the obvious.

 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
2. One of our greatest fallacies as humans is that we are somehow separate from nature.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:44 AM
Oct 2012

Who is it that promotes such a ridiculous belief, anyway?

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
6. The very first cite shows the problem. All senses but 5 omit human activity from "nature".
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:13 AM
Oct 2012
na·ture? ?[ney-cher] Show IPA
noun
1.
the material world, especially as surrounding humankind and existing independently of human activities.
2.
the natural world as it exists without human beings or civilization.
3.
the elements of the natural world, as mountains, trees, animals, or rivers.
4.
natural scenery.
5.
the universe, with all its phenomena.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nature?s=t


Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Human vs. Nature. An int...