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Chuck Todd, just wear an elephant hat with teabags on it. (Original Post) Atman Oct 2012 OP
Right you are. Tennessee Gal Oct 2012 #1
I love their spin on Ohio. Atman Oct 2012 #2
"EVERY poll has Obama up by at least 5 points" krawhitham Oct 2012 #6
Come on, get real. By now everyone should know that the OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #11
I forgot the DU/freeper poll rules, it the poll is not what you want it must be garbage krawhitham Oct 2012 #14
I guess you've missed all of the threads explaining why the polls I mentioned are skewed.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #16
He's a Democrat, I think. A numbers guy. Why, what did he say? nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #3
He's a "supposed" Democrat, but his words speak louder than his actions. Raster Oct 2012 #5
He is a ratings whore krawhitham Oct 2012 #8
He's Been A Rushpublican Apologist For A Long Time... KharmaTrain Oct 2012 #7
Thx. I'll check that out. I've found him to be fairly fair...a bald numbers guy. Except a few times. Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #13
Thanks for the warning. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2012 #4
Had to LOL this morning as he stumbled through an explanation of the latest polls in Ohio.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #9
Yes, either he's bummed about the Romney surge fizzle, or he has a stomach virus. Zen Democrat Oct 2012 #10
I was glad to see Dalai_1 Oct 2012 #12
Chukie is just used as filler to fill dead air time LiberalFighter Oct 2012 #15
Worthless is a good description for him jsr Oct 2012 #17
The formula is simple.. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2012 #18

Atman

(31,464 posts)
2. I love their spin on Ohio.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:43 AM
Oct 2012

EVERY poll has Obama up by at least 5 points in "the one state any candidate MUST win to be elected." But on Morning Joe, "Meh...it's not a big deal. Romney's people say they're holding their own." These clowns are delusion.

If you paid attention yesterday, the real story was Romney's "bluff" campaign. I heard several in the punditocracy talking about how this is just a head game at this point. They're trying to get the spineless wimps who just want to back the winner, so they're pretending they're winning in order to garner a few more desperately needed voted. Pathetic.

krawhitham

(4,644 posts)
6. "EVERY poll has Obama up by at least 5 points"
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:51 AM
Oct 2012

NO

only 2 of the last 8 have Obama at 5 points or more

Rasmussen Reports - Tie
Time - Obama +5
SurveyUSA - Obama +3
Suffolk - Tie
PPP (D) - Obama +1
CBS News/Quinnipiac - Obama +5
Gravis Marketing - Tie
FOX News - Obama +3

That is 25% not 100%

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
11. Come on, get real. By now everyone should know that the
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:01 AM
Oct 2012

...Rasmussen, Suffolk, Gravis and FOX polls are all obviously right-leaning and have consistently shown results skewed toward Romney, particularly after the pollsters made the sudden switch to the Likely Voter model. The fact that they are all currently even or showing the President with a lead in Ohio should tell you how well he is really doing.

I really don't know what's going on with PPP but their polling has been suspect over the last week or so.

krawhitham

(4,644 posts)
14. I forgot the DU/freeper poll rules, it the poll is not what you want it must be garbage
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:03 AM
Oct 2012

Maybe we should start a poll UnSkewing site

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
16. I guess you've missed all of the threads explaining why the polls I mentioned are skewed....
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:15 AM
Oct 2012

....but if you want to continue to live in a dreamworld, feel free, nobody's stopping you.

krawhitham

(4,644 posts)
8. He is a ratings whore
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:52 AM
Oct 2012

close race = ratings

But he has said on his show a few times he thinks Obama will win Ohio and the race

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
7. He's Been A Rushpublican Apologist For A Long Time...
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:52 AM
Oct 2012

Before NBC he worked for the Hotline that was a conduit of right wing talking points. Mediamatters has a lot on his previous history...you'll see he was no Democrat.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
13. Thx. I'll check that out. I've found him to be fairly fair...a bald numbers guy. Except a few times.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:09 AM
Oct 2012

when he was pushing the Joe Scabby line of the day. But usu. a straight arrow. He has sometimes been the only one on the show who would not follow the Republican agenda, when asked a question...he'd just respond with data.

But I'll check out Mediamatters. Thx.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
9. Had to LOL this morning as he stumbled through an explanation of the latest polls in Ohio....
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:53 AM
Oct 2012

...he looked totally miserable and I loved it!

Dalai_1

(1,301 posts)
12. I was glad to see
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:06 AM
Oct 2012

John Heilemann ask Chuck to let him finish what he
was saying about the endorsement....but of course
Chuck dismissed it mumbling about Ross Perot..

President Obama proved in 2008 he was in the twenty first
century using technology and getting a ground game in place.
These pollsters simply can not gage with all the new registrations
the President continues to get and the magnitude of his
well oiled machine...I would say that polling will change in the future
to target these specifics more accuracy..

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
18. The formula is simple..
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:23 AM
Oct 2012

The further Obama moves ahead, the further right of center Todd moves. As things tighten, he'll move back to center/left of center.

He's a good company man.

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