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WTF? Is anyone watching Lawrence O'Donnell? (Original Post) apples and oranges Oct 2012 OP
Not By A TV Tonight - What Is He Saying? Give Us More Info On This......nt global1 Oct 2012 #1
Encouraging viewers in solid blue... Whiskeytide Oct 2012 #8
The popular vote matters. RichGirl Oct 2012 #14
WTF is a solid blue state, even? LisaL Oct 2012 #16
Between you and me I'm sick to death of fake lefties who think if they vote Green Party etc flamingdem Oct 2012 #19
They expect others to pick up the slack for them apples and oranges Oct 2012 #20
That's why I don't take it easily when someone I know talks third party flamingdem Oct 2012 #22
Same here. Glad to know I'm not the only one apples and oranges Oct 2012 #24
Came in on the end - refreshed DU page hoping for explanation. nc4bo Oct 2012 #2
Sometimes the mouth doesn't check-in with the brain. So goes his wacky idea. N/t Ninga Oct 2012 #3
Said he votes in Cali(?) and voted 3rd party every year except 1 where he voted for a GE winner. nc4bo Oct 2012 #7
I think he's admitting that he didn't vote for Clinton or Obama apples and oranges Oct 2012 #21
What was he thinking when he said that. We want Obama to win the popular vote too. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #4
That too! This is the first time I've been disappointed in apples and oranges Oct 2012 #10
Obama needs the popular vote too. Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #5
I was wondering if I was the only one who thought his 3rd party advocacy was strange tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #6
I turned it off, to prevent the destruction of my TV. drm604 Oct 2012 #9
I love Lawrence but jonpaulprime Oct 2012 #11
Lawrence lafde Oct 2012 #12
lol, he has turned into a third party cheerleader quinnox Oct 2012 #13
I turned him off too katmondoo Oct 2012 #15
Big Fail Lawrence, another pundit has to toot his horn flamingdem Oct 2012 #17
Romney's Rise in National Polls have a lot to do with his rise in Solid Red States JI7 Oct 2012 #18
I had to calm down I am so pissed at Lawrence O'Donnell rbrnmw Oct 2012 #23
Face it, if everybody who watches Lawrence in the non-swing blue states voted third party stopbush Oct 2012 #25
See, this what I like about this site and my fellow Democrats. Jamaal510 Oct 2012 #26

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
8. Encouraging viewers in solid blue...
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:56 PM
Oct 2012

... States to vote for a third party candidate on a lark on the premise that it doesnt matter. Irresponsible.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
16. WTF is a solid blue state, even?
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:15 PM
Oct 2012

We have some that are less than 10 %. If 10 % switch to third party we lose the state. It's outrageous to suggest voting for third party at this point.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
19. Between you and me I'm sick to death of fake lefties who think if they vote Green Party etc
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:24 PM
Oct 2012

they are superior and they are the true rebels.

GROW UP!

Usually these people are in the academic world or fancy themselves intellectuals. But they're not interested in the quality of the third party candidate or their ability to lead, only in getting attention for themselves and their ideas.

You can dump on Obama all you want "lefties" but we have an election in 12 days and fascists on the other side. It's a lack of discipline and I bet none of these quasi-Marxists have ever dealt with real revolutions and seen what it's all about

Mama, it's about the poor needing theirs too and basic freedoms. It's very basic, it's not a Che tshirt. They want what Lawrence has, ha ha, a house in the canyon in L.A. and all the power to say what he wants on tv.

apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
20. They expect others to pick up the slack for them
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:29 PM
Oct 2012

They get to vote their "heart," while expecting the rest of us to vote based on reality.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
22. That's why I don't take it easily when someone I know talks third party
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:39 PM
Oct 2012

I try, I try, but inside I am pissed because we are so lucky to have Obama working for us against these forces that are so negative and so powerful. They won't even get it later when the party has trouble coming up with someone with his talent, or someone who wants to deal with the stress involved.

A friend just told me he voted for Nader and only because we're in California, still mad at him even though it was a while ago! He'll never know I feel this way but I can't help but start to correlate that choice with other aspects of his personality. At least he knew it wouldn't be okay in a swing state.

apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
24. Same here. Glad to know I'm not the only one
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:53 PM
Oct 2012

That same debate that Lawrence is so in awe of has caused a close friend of mine to "pull a romney" and go third party 2 weeks before the election! He's in a blue state but I got off the phone thinking that the friendship was over, not just because of the erratic switch based on very little facts, but also because it's yet another bad decision to add to the growing pile of bad decisions he's making in other areas of his life.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
2. Came in on the end - refreshed DU page hoping for explanation.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:54 PM
Oct 2012

What did I just catch the end of - something about voting for 3rd party candidates if you're in California because it will always be blue and your 3rd party vote won't mean much then he went into the 3rd party vote in a swing state......

Need to watch the video when they get it up.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
7. Said he votes in Cali(?) and voted 3rd party every year except 1 where he voted for a GE winner.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:56 PM
Oct 2012

I am lost with his point.

apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
10. That too! This is the first time I've been disappointed in
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:58 PM
Oct 2012

O'Donnell. He's usually spot on. This race 50% to 48.9%. This is NOT the time for game playing. Our future is at stake and if there is a tie, then the house would love to use a popular vote loss as part of their reason for picking Robme!

jonpaulprime

(104 posts)
11. I love Lawrence but
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:02 PM
Oct 2012

he's wrong sometimes. If I recall correctly, he predicted Tim Pawlenty would get the Republican nomination for president.

lafde

(31 posts)
12. Lawrence
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:03 PM
Oct 2012

What the fuck man...He want us to lose an election. We havent learn anything from nader?
what everone in cali takes his advise, andvotes for third party....we need conservative third
party to take vote from robme but not other way around

katmondoo

(6,457 posts)
15. I turned him off too
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:13 PM
Oct 2012

he has been one of my favorites now I don't know. Every President will at one time or another sign a bill you don't like. You have to think of the overall effect of what he does and what he thinks that would effect America and the American people. I haven't always agreed with Obama but I don't see Mitt or any third party candidate that would better. Mitt scares me even more than Bush did.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
17. Big Fail Lawrence, another pundit has to toot his horn
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:20 PM
Oct 2012

and we're not interested. It's not the time.

F*ck you for even reminding us of Nader

JI7

(89,252 posts)
18. Romney's Rise in National Polls have a lot to do with his rise in Solid Red States
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:24 PM
Oct 2012

popular vote matters. i try to get as many people as i can to get out and vote for Obama.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
23. I had to calm down I am so pissed at Lawrence O'Donnell
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:52 PM
Oct 2012

that is very irresponsible advice Bush wouldn't have won twice if Ralph Nader had just gotten behind Al Gore in 2000 who was very strong on the Environment and John Kerry in 2004. People like O'Donnell and Michael Moore need to STFU and get over themselves GAWD I'M PISSED I'm disabled my husband doesn't have fucking job we are facing eviction and our gas was shut off today we have 4 kids Mitt Romney doesn't give a fuck about me but President Obama does. I have been working my ass off volunteering to help get President Obama reelected, only to have a 1%er like O'Donnell tell people to waste their fucking votes on a 3rd party. What the fuck is up with this bullshit???


and for those who wondering why I have cable and internet I don't I have an old laptop and I get a WiFi signal and stream MSNBC from the internet

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
25. Face it, if everybody who watches Lawrence in the non-swing blue states voted third party
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:38 AM
Oct 2012

it wouldn't make a bit of difference.

That's because the size of Lawrence's audience is insignificant in the scheme of things.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
26. See, this what I like about this site and my fellow Democrats.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:07 AM
Oct 2012

Unlike the wingnuts, we don't always agree with and get our marching orders from media pundits.

This has to be the WORST advice I have ever heard from Lawrence O. If a significant number of Democratic voters in say, California, vote for somebody like Stein instead of Obama, then things would get scary for us in a hurry. We already have about 35% of the voting population as Republicans--we don't need to help out the enemy by splitting votes with a non-viable candidate. Besides, I think Obama is doing a pretty damn good job as president, despite inheriting the biggest deficit in history and being obstructed by Congress along the way.

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