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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWTF? Is anyone watching Lawrence O'Donnell?
What if everyone in blue states took his advice? The state would no longer be blue!
global1
(25,253 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... States to vote for a third party candidate on a lark on the premise that it doesnt matter. Irresponsible.
RichGirl
(4,119 posts)What's up with MSNBC????
LisaL
(44,973 posts)We have some that are less than 10 %. If 10 % switch to third party we lose the state. It's outrageous to suggest voting for third party at this point.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)they are superior and they are the true rebels.
GROW UP!
Usually these people are in the academic world or fancy themselves intellectuals. But they're not interested in the quality of the third party candidate or their ability to lead, only in getting attention for themselves and their ideas.
You can dump on Obama all you want "lefties" but we have an election in 12 days and fascists on the other side. It's a lack of discipline and I bet none of these quasi-Marxists have ever dealt with real revolutions and seen what it's all about
Mama, it's about the poor needing theirs too and basic freedoms. It's very basic, it's not a Che tshirt. They want what Lawrence has, ha ha, a house in the canyon in L.A. and all the power to say what he wants on tv.
apples and oranges
(1,451 posts)They get to vote their "heart," while expecting the rest of us to vote based on reality.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)I try, I try, but inside I am pissed because we are so lucky to have Obama working for us against these forces that are so negative and so powerful. They won't even get it later when the party has trouble coming up with someone with his talent, or someone who wants to deal with the stress involved.
A friend just told me he voted for Nader and only because we're in California, still mad at him even though it was a while ago! He'll never know I feel this way but I can't help but start to correlate that choice with other aspects of his personality. At least he knew it wouldn't be okay in a swing state.
apples and oranges
(1,451 posts)That same debate that Lawrence is so in awe of has caused a close friend of mine to "pull a romney" and go third party 2 weeks before the election! He's in a blue state but I got off the phone thinking that the friendship was over, not just because of the erratic switch based on very little facts, but also because it's yet another bad decision to add to the growing pile of bad decisions he's making in other areas of his life.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)What did I just catch the end of - something about voting for 3rd party candidates if you're in California because it will always be blue and your 3rd party vote won't mean much then he went into the 3rd party vote in a swing state......
Need to watch the video when they get it up.
Ninga
(8,275 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)I am lost with his point.
apples and oranges
(1,451 posts)Oops!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)apples and oranges
(1,451 posts)O'Donnell. He's usually spot on. This race 50% to 48.9%. This is NOT the time for game playing. Our future is at stake and if there is a tie, then the house would love to use a popular vote loss as part of their reason for picking Robme!
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)We want the largest possible mandate.
tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)drm604
(16,230 posts)jonpaulprime
(104 posts)he's wrong sometimes. If I recall correctly, he predicted Tim Pawlenty would get the Republican nomination for president.
lafde
(31 posts)What the fuck man...He want us to lose an election. We havent learn anything from nader?
what everone in cali takes his advise, andvotes for third party....we need conservative third
party to take vote from robme but not other way around
quinnox
(20,600 posts)this is unexpected.
katmondoo
(6,457 posts)he has been one of my favorites now I don't know. Every President will at one time or another sign a bill you don't like. You have to think of the overall effect of what he does and what he thinks that would effect America and the American people. I haven't always agreed with Obama but I don't see Mitt or any third party candidate that would better. Mitt scares me even more than Bush did.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)and we're not interested. It's not the time.
F*ck you for even reminding us of Nader
JI7
(89,252 posts)popular vote matters. i try to get as many people as i can to get out and vote for Obama.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)that is very irresponsible advice Bush wouldn't have won twice if Ralph Nader had just gotten behind Al Gore in 2000 who was very strong on the Environment and John Kerry in 2004. People like O'Donnell and Michael Moore need to STFU and get over themselves GAWD I'M PISSED I'm disabled my husband doesn't have fucking job we are facing eviction and our gas was shut off today we have 4 kids Mitt Romney doesn't give a fuck about me but President Obama does. I have been working my ass off volunteering to help get President Obama reelected, only to have a 1%er like O'Donnell tell people to waste their fucking votes on a 3rd party. What the fuck is up with this bullshit???
and for those who wondering why I have cable and internet I don't I have an old laptop and I get a WiFi signal and stream MSNBC from the internet
stopbush
(24,396 posts)it wouldn't make a bit of difference.
That's because the size of Lawrence's audience is insignificant in the scheme of things.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)Unlike the wingnuts, we don't always agree with and get our marching orders from media pundits.
This has to be the WORST advice I have ever heard from Lawrence O. If a significant number of Democratic voters in say, California, vote for somebody like Stein instead of Obama, then things would get scary for us in a hurry. We already have about 35% of the voting population as Republicans--we don't need to help out the enemy by splitting votes with a non-viable candidate. Besides, I think Obama is doing a pretty damn good job as president, despite inheriting the biggest deficit in history and being obstructed by Congress along the way.