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Botany

(70,517 posts)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:15 PM Oct 2012

Rape .... a man's story

I have never written about this but here I go .....

Years ago I had a good friend die as the result of fighting a rapist ...... I knew she
wanted more out of her relationship w/ me than I was willing to give but she had
one the best and truest hearts in the world. She got shot in the throat but still she was
able to call 9-11 but because of her wounds she had a loss of oxygen to her brain
and which caused a vegetative coma ..... she died w/ in 18 months .... both of her
elderly parents died because of the stress with in a year of the crime too.

The police later arrested a serial rapist ... a detective told me that he was
a good suspect in the attack on my friend. I would not go to his trial on
another rape case because of what I wanted to do that man ...... it still
bothers me to have to kill a woodchuck in a live trap @ a customer's
home but I would have had no problem "spending time" w/ that piece
of crap.

These are feelings that I have had deep inside of me and after time i don't
think about my friend anymore or her attacker but when these scum buckets
bring up rape in a political context it puts me in a very bad place.

How dare these bastards talk about rape, God's plan, and what they think
is the right thing to do?

If you are a woman or you have ever cared about a woman how could
you vote ever for "them"?

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Rape .... a man's story (Original Post) Botany Oct 2012 OP
I'm so sorry for your friend, her family, and you. Darth_Kitten Oct 2012 #1
powerful jonpaulprime Oct 2012 #2
No words are adequate to express my solidarity, horror, grief and regret riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #3
So sorry for your loss. He raped her, but stole your life that you two could have had. Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #4
He did not rape her .... she put up a fight Botany Oct 2012 #9
you took their easy talking points, and by humanizing it, created great power. NRaleighLiberal Oct 2012 #5
And here's the thing that many RW followers don't get: they don't give a shit about men, either. nt gkhouston Oct 2012 #22
indeed - only themselves, money and power. NRaleighLiberal Oct 2012 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Sparkly Oct 2012 #6
Powerful testimony. ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #7
Botany, thank you for memorializing this here and your opinion. freshwest Oct 2012 #8
Rape harms more people than we can ever know. I'm so sorry you're being retraumatized. nolabear Oct 2012 #10
. myrna minx Oct 2012 #11
Sad. Look at this if you have a chance: blkmusclmachine Oct 2012 #12
You feel bad, because the woodchuck is an innocent creature, who, bothersome though they may be... Marmitist Oct 2012 #13
I hope you're right, Marmitist n/t condoleeza Oct 2012 #15
Thank you, it's important to talk about this condoleeza Oct 2012 #14
Thank you, sir. bleever Oct 2012 #16
Thank you. beac Oct 2012 #17
Hugs Stargazer09 Oct 2012 #18
oh, i am so sorry renate Oct 2012 #19
They are using God to justify their evil.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #20
these bastards think of rape as "rough sex" noiretextatique Oct 2012 #21
Botany, you have always been my fave. gkhouston Oct 2012 #23
I'm so sorry REP Oct 2012 #24
What saddens me the most War Horse Oct 2012 #25
Why do women vote republican? nm rhett o rick Oct 2012 #27
Sorry to hear that, Botany. Rape is rape. It's not "God's will". David Zephyr Oct 2012 #28
ugh... this gets at me because I was raised in a religion that told women they should fight to the Schema Thing Oct 2012 #29

Darth_Kitten

(14,192 posts)
1. I'm so sorry for your friend, her family, and you.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:18 PM
Oct 2012

I can't imagine having that much rage and pain brought up constantly.


 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
3. No words are adequate to express my solidarity, horror, grief and regret
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:20 PM
Oct 2012

Please know that there are a lot of DUers who are always here to listen though.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
4. So sorry for your loss. He raped her, but stole your life that you two could have had.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:21 PM
Oct 2012

About women voting for Robme.... Some people are brainwashed. I'd never vote for Robme.

Botany

(70,517 posts)
9. He did not rape her .... she put up a fight
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:24 PM
Oct 2012

my life has been good over all but when idiot men talk about
rape it still gets to me.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
5. you took their easy talking points, and by humanizing it, created great power.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:23 PM
Oct 2012

As a man with three women he adores (wife and two daughters), the right wings' attitudes toward women are simply indescribable.

Thanks for sharing your story. It certainly deeply moved me.

Response to Botany (Original post)

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
8. Botany, thank you for memorializing this here and your opinion.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:24 PM
Oct 2012

Words are not adequate to give comfort here. I only have tears.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
10. Rape harms more people than we can ever know. I'm so sorry you're being retraumatized.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:27 PM
Oct 2012

There's a smugness to the pronouncements the RW makes, a lack of understanding and empathy and compassion that I find truly hard to fathom. The only succor we can provide is to create a world where rape is almost unheard of, and when it does happen the victim and those who love her (or him) are treated with love, with respect, and are given choices and help with going on with their lives as best they can.

And we can create that through mAking those RW fools and their ideas a thing of the past.

It was brave of you to post. Peace.

 

Marmitist

(64 posts)
13. You feel bad, because the woodchuck is an innocent creature, who, bothersome though they may be...
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:33 PM
Oct 2012

Doesn't deserve to be exterminated. There is no innocence to these Republican bastards.

Too bad we can't treat them they way that we do the woodchucks... Fortunately, the old, angry white man contingent is dying off, so nature is doing that for us. Within less than a generation there will still be people who vote Republican, but there will not be a viable national party left. They'll win local, and state contests, and there will still be a smattering of Republicans who get into the House and the Senate, but after we reach that tipping point, they'll never have a majority of either house of Congress ever again, and they'll never win the Presidency again either.

Mark my words, it's coming, more slowly than I would prefer, but it IS coming. They know it, hence their desperate employment of every dirty trick in the book to try and forestall their own political demise for one (hopefully) last time.

Karl Rove once spoke of his hope to create a "permanent Republican majority"... Well, thanks to the cacophany of complete and utter lunatic assholes who comprise the Right today, we (again, hopefully) will have a permanent Democratic majority for years, nay, decades to come. A-Fucking-Men!

condoleeza

(814 posts)
14. Thank you, it's important to talk about this
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:43 PM
Oct 2012

Anyone who has been raped or sexually assaulted or knows someone who has, is reliving it now and if you multiply just the female statistics of 1 in 3 by the age of 18, that touches a lot of people who were victimized or had loved ones who were, female and male. I'm just so tired of reliving my own family nightmare every 4 years, so tired of the men who make rape/reproduction/abortion etc. an issue in every election, when they so clearly are just pandering to their party's religious convictions and really don't give a shit.

God, the absolute stupidity of nearly half the people in this country is just so depressing. That's what religion does and why I'm an Atheist.

beac

(9,992 posts)
17. Thank you.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:44 PM
Oct 2012

Rape is a CRIME. The GOP claims to be the party of law and order but, to them, rape is a "gift from God"/"just another method of conception"/rarely "legitimate".

How can ANYONE, man or woman, vote for these rape lovers?????

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
18. Hugs
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:16 AM
Oct 2012

I am sick of hearing that rape isn't such a bad thing. It brings back the trauma for me, too.

It hurts. A lot.

renate

(13,776 posts)
19. oh, i am so sorry
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:37 AM
Oct 2012

He stole three lives and left a gaping hole in yours. There just aren't words for how cruel and how horrible that was, but you did a wonderful job of describing her inner being--which that beast could never touch--and of expressing your pain.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
20. They are using God to justify their evil....
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:52 AM
Oct 2012

And the thing is,...they know it....

They also know they have created a loyal following that actually believes they are showing them the way to heaven.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
21. these bastards think of rape as "rough sex"
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:59 PM
Oct 2012

they don't think about the women, like your dear friend, as victims of violence. instead, they identify with rapists and their demon seed. disgusting, they whole lot of 'em
i aborted a rapist's seed, and never, ever regretted it.

War Horse

(931 posts)
25. What saddens me the most
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:19 PM
Oct 2012

is that it's really, really necessary that such horrible stories really HAVE to be brought to the forefront for some people to even come close "getting it".

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
28. Sorry to hear that, Botany. Rape is rape. It's not "God's will".
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:59 PM
Oct 2012

These Republican men seem so comfortable talking about rape so casually and pontificating about it. They are scum.

K&R.

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
29. ugh... this gets at me because I was raised in a religion that told women they should fight to the
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:39 PM
Oct 2012

death to avoid rape. Yep. Otherwise they might be "committing fornication". Hell if I dug deep enough I could probably find a Watchtower that claims the child produced from rape is a gift from Jehovah. Whether they said that or not, they sure as hell wouldn't let you abort it, that's for damn sure.


I shit you not.


I knew / but did not know that they were wrong. It screws with a young person's mind.
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